David Daleiden Doubles Down
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He's simply another David. I thought that was your point: that other people have stood up to a larger force who were called David.
Or have I misinterpreted you? If so I apologise.
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LOL! I wasn't saying anyone with the name "David" is as the David of the Bible who stood up to the giant Goliath.
I was referring to this particular David (i didn't realize that was his first name), and then when i read that it was, David and Goliath came to mind.
And thank you for your genteelness.
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He's back in the news again. Looks like this time he's violated a court order and released another dishonestly-edited video hit-piece. Judges love it when defendants ignore their orders, right? The trial should go really smoothly for him.
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Like he didn't understand what he's doing. CMP is playing a game of chess with the courts. Gutsy. I like their style.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ned-paren/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS
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You are right in one aspect; Dalieden knows what he is doing. However; courts don't play chess. Attempting to "play chess" with a court is not gutsy. Another adjective comes to my mind.
That is but one of the really sad parts of this story. The guy knowingly and willingly keeps breaking the law (sinning), while many Christians are lauding him as some kind of hero. He hopes he is above the law, and those rooting him on hope he is found not guilty since he "had a good reason" to be a criminal *sigh*.
I do not recall courts playing any game except maybe the famous "Contempt of court, you're outta here!" V 2.1 LOL.
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What law did Jesus break? I have really never read that Jesus broke governmental or God's law.
Luke 23:13-16
13 Then Pilate, when he had called together the chief priests, the rulers, and the people, 14 said to them, “You have brought this Man to me, as one who misleads the people. And indeed, having examined Him in your presence, I have found no fault in this Man concerning those things of which you accuse Him; 15 no, neither did Herod, for I sent you back to him; and indeed nothing deserving of death has been done by Him. 16 I will therefore chastise Him and release Him”
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I would imagine (guess) that the videos would be deemed inadmissible in Daleiden's criminal trial. They are not needed to either prove him guilty or not guilty of forging government documents or the charge of attempted purchasing of fetal tissue (as I understand it, that was done by email). So Washington times article claiming the veracity of the videos will proven in this trial I believe is inaccurate. Just my opinion though.
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God commands we obey the governmental law UNLESS the government law violates God's law (immoral). To violate laws that are not immoral is sin.
Daleiden is accused of breaking three laws that I am aware of. Accusations are:
- He created a fake ID which included tampering with government documents. The law against tampering with government documents is not immoral, thus it is a sin to violate this law.
- He offered to buy fetal tissue. The law against buying fetal tissue is not immoral, thus it is a sin to violate this law.
- He illegally recorded another party without their permission. The law against illegally recording another party without their permission is not immoral, thus it is a sin to violate this law.
I personally do not believe God condones sin, nor do I believe our sins please God.
If PP was acting outside the law, Daleiden could have accomplished his goal within God's and man's laws. Patience and better planning is all he needed if PP, was in fact, violating state laws against selling tissue/organs. He, like many before him, choose the easy and quick route to achieving his goals. That method usually includes sin. In this case, it included sin and violating the law. Now he must face the consequences of those actions here, and later he will answer for them to God as we all do.
Romans 13:1-7
13 All of you must obey the government rulers. Everyone who rules was given the power to rule by God. And all those who rule now were given that power by God. 2 So anyone who is against the government is really against something God has commanded. Those who are against the government bring punishment on themselves. 3 People who do right don’t have to fear the rulers. But those who do wrong must fear them. Do you want to be free from fearing them? Then do only what is right, and they will praise you.
4 Rulers are God’s servants to help you. But if you do wrong, you have reason to be afraid. They have the power to punish, and they will use it. They are God’s servants to punish those who do wrong. 5 So you must obey the government, not just because you might be punished, but because you know it is the right thing to do.
6 And this is why you pay taxes too. Those rulers are working for God, and they give all their time to the work of ruling. 7 Give everyone what you owe them. If you owe them any kind of tax, then pay it. Show respect to those you should respect. And show honor to those you should honor.
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Jesus defied man's law. Specifically the way the ruling Jewish elites enforced Sabbath laws.
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It won't matter. The videos will get the attention they deserve because of the trial. Instead of the videos fading into memory, they are front and center still and that's not going to change.
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