Unpardonable sin debate

Bible Highlighter · Feb 10, 2016

brotherjerry said:
Jason

You apparently have an issue with the English language?
"...have blasphemed Me BY acting treacherously against Me" They have committed blasphemy....they did it by acting treacherously. This is not a comparison, it is not a substitution. The word is "by" not "like" or "as if". One is the actions that defines the term. Kind of like "You commited murder by shooting that person" You are not comparing or substituting anything...you are explaining how it is you commited murder.

And yes what does blasphemy mean? Let's pull out the Meriam Webster again shall we -
"the ACT of insutling or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God" Ezekiel 20:27, 2 Kings 19, Isaiah 37.
"the ACT of claiming the attributes of deity" John 10

The only people disagreeing with you are the Jews. They called Christ a blasphemer because He claimed to be God. (And like you I agree that Christ was right)....but it goes to show another definition of blasphemy.

Yes maybe you should...read it closer.
What does verse 23 say Sennacherib claims to have done? He did not just give God a tongue lashing did he? "With my chariots I came up to the heights of the mountains, to the remotest parts of Lebanon; And I cut down all its tall cedars and its choice cypresses. And I entered its farthest lodging places, its thickest forest." This is what Sennecherib "reproached the Lord" Not only through his words, but also by his actions Sennecherib blasphemed the loard....Reproach is and expression of rebuke which is speaking in angry and critical ways...it is verbal. If blasphemy is only verbal, then it was redundant to say "reproached and blasphemed" in 2 Kings 19:22

Not a gross interpretation at all. No matter how you look at it...rejection of the Holy Spirit in this world will get you no forgiveness...every...in this world or a thousand other worlds to come (if there were a thousand worlds to come). Christ used that as an emphasis to say that this is your one chance to seek forgiveness. There are no second chances.

If I am to remain consistent in definitions by using Merriam I concede this point. However, on legal grounds as far as the law is concerned these are two different things..murder is defined as wrongfully taking another persons life. And I agree that the Bible would not condone it. However, consider this...if someone throws themselves off a bridge and repents on the way down, are they forgiven? Your comment about asking forgiveness can only come after the fact is not actually true, it can come during the act.

not stated in the text? Did you not read Leviticus 24:16 "the one who blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death"
And I am not making leaps, I am actually the one understanding the definition of blasphemy and not putting it in a box that it does not fit into. Blaphemy by definition is not restricted to verbal utterances. Quit trying to put it in that box.

no he is not...but he is saying that his blasphemy is because of his unbelief.

Does he say never did that? What verse says that? All I see is Paul admitting he was a blasphemer. Paul says later in 1 Timothy 1:15 that he was the foremost of all sinners. I guess that was not true was it...for you would say that those that blasphemed the Holy Spirit never received forgiveness....thus they must have been foremost of all sinners right? So did Paul lie, or did Christ? OR is blaspheming the Holy Spirit rejecting the Grace of God in this life.

If you reject the grace of God in this life, that is if you die in this life rejecting the grace of God, then you have commited the unforgivable sin, you have shown no reverence to God, you have shown great disrespect towards God by refusing His free gift of salvation. Sorry if that was not clear in my post.

What I said stands. If you do not accept what I said back with God's Word, then there is no reason to keep arguing over it.

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nobdysfool · Feb 10, 2016

brotherjerry said:
Actually NBF what I am doing is not putting the definition of blasphemy into a box that it does not belong. It is not defined as just mere words, it also includes actions, thoughts, words, etc. It is showing disrespect to God, irreverence to God. This is done not just by words, but by the heart.

Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks...You are trying to expand the definition beyond how Christ used the word in this instance. thus, you are adding to His words, things He neither said, or implied. Jesus said that calling the power and works of the Holy Spirit to be done by the power of Satan (an unclean spirit) was blaspheming the Holy Spirit, and would never be forgiven in this life or the life to come. Do you deny that this is what Jesus said?

brotherjerry · Feb 11, 2016

nobdysfool said:
Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks...You are trying to expand the definition beyond how Christ used the word in this instance. thus, you are adding to His words, things He neither said, or implied. Jesus said that calling the power and works of the Holy Spirit to be done by the power of Satan (an unclean spirit) was blaspheming the Holy Spirit, and would never be forgiven in this life or the life to come. Do you deny that this is what Jesus said?

Yes because Jesus did not say it. That was the theme of his message I agree. But you also have to look at the context of the situation. You or I cannot commit the same act that the Pharisees had done. We cannot attribute the works of Christ to an unclean spirit because we were not there to be witnesses to that. That alone makes the point moot.

But we know that everything is put into the Bible for a reason. And everything has an application for today. The term blaspheme was utilized specifically for a purpose. The word is not restrictive of just verbal usages, it is an irreverence towards God, or in this case the Holy Spirit. Christ specifically mentions the Holy Spirit. We believe that God, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are one do we not? Why would blasphemy against the Holy Spirit not also be blasphemy against God, or the Son? In the Old Testament to blasphemy the Name of the Lord was a sentence to death, so it can carry the same sort of weight...death. Not getting forgiveness in this world or the next is an equation to eternal death is it not? How does one remain spiritually dead?

brotherjerry · Feb 11, 2016

Jason0047 said:
What I said stands. If you do not accept what I said back with God's Word, then there is no reason to keep arguing over it.
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Not a matter of arguing. Just pointing out that that "BY" which is what the Word of God has in it, means that it was done by that...not in comparison of. You can stand by that all you want, but you are standing on false premises. It is not a matter of doctrine, it is a matter of grammar. You can change your doctrine but you cant change what words mean and how sentences are structured.

But please prove me incorrect. Use 'by' in a sentence to show comparison of two items.

Bible Highlighter · Feb 11, 2016

brotherjerry said:
Not a matter of arguing. Just pointing out that that "BY" which is what the Word of God has in it, means that it was done by that...not in comparison of. You can stand by that all you want, but you are standing on false premises. It is not a matter of doctrine, it is a matter of grammar. You can change your doctrine but you cant change what words mean and how sentences are structured.

But please prove me incorrect. Use 'by' in a sentence to show comparison of two items.

I got one better for you. Pray and ask God repeatedly for a year each day if your interpretation on this passage is correct. Then see where that leads you, my friend.

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nobdysfool · Feb 11, 2016

brotherjerry said:
Yes because Jesus did not say it. That was the theme of his message I agree. But you also have to look at the context of the situation. You or I cannot commit the same act that the Pharisees had done. We cannot attribute the works of Christ to an unclean spirit because we were not there to be witnesses to that. That alone makes the point moot.

Any time the power of the Holy Spirit is in manifestation, the potential exists for this sin to be committed. Even today.

But we know that everything is put into the Bible for a reason. And everything has an application for today. The term blaspheme was utilized specifically for a purpose. The word is not restrictive of just verbal usages, it is an irreverence towards God, or in this case the Holy Spirit. Christ specifically mentions the Holy Spirit. We believe that God, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are one do we not? Why would blasphemy against the Holy Spirit not also be blasphemy against God, or the Son? In the Old Testament to blasphemy the Name of the Lord was a sentence to death, so it can carry the same sort of weight...death. Not getting forgiveness in this world or the next is an equation to eternal death is it not? How does one remain spiritually dead?

I know it sounds all "learned" and "wise" to try to force a wider application and definition of these passages, but that is where error begins. Yes, God is One, but He is manifested in 3 essences, each of which have specific functions. It seems to me that the Holy Spirit's function has to do with Power, causing things to happen, holding back other things from happening. Obviously calling His Power that of an unclean spirit is something that God takes very personally, as it is an attack on that which He does.

It amazes me that so many people just cannot accept these passages for what they say, and accept it as that. No, they want to redefine and broaden terms, some even going so far as to say the Unforgivable Sin is unbelief, which shows they are seriously deficient in thinking skills. Even saying that it is to reject the Holy Spirit's working in their heart is a non-starter, because before we believed, we ALL resisted and rejected the Holy Spirit drawing us to Himself. It's as if they want to say, "Oh Jesus didn't really mean 'never forgiven', He was just trying to show how serious this sin was and is...". Really? If Jesus didn't mean exactly what He said here, then you can't trust anything He said!

brotherjerry · Feb 11, 2016

Jason0047 said:
I got one better for you. Pray and ask God repeatedly for a year each day if your interpretation on this passage is correct. Then see where that leads you, my friend.
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Oh no need there my friend. It is not a matter of interpretation. How do you make the word "by" mean "like"?

brotherjerry · Feb 11, 2016

nobdysfool said:
Any time the power of the Holy Spirit is in manifestation, the potential exists for this sin to be committed. Even today.

I know it sounds all "learned" and "wise" to try to force a wider application and definition of these passages, but that is where error begins. Yes, God is One, but He is manifested in 3 essences, each of which have specific functions. It seems to me that the Holy Spirit's function has to do with Power, causing things to happen, holding back other things from happening. Obviously calling His Power that of an unclean spirit is something that God takes very personally, as it is an attack on that which He does.

It amazes me that so many people just cannot accept these passages for what they say, and accept it as that. No, they want to redefine and broaden terms, some even going so far as to say the Unforgivable Sin is unbelief, which shows they are seriously deficient in thinking skills. Even saying that it is to reject the Holy Spirit's working in their heart is a non-starter, because before we believed, we ALL resisted and rejected the Holy Spirit drawing us to Himself. It's as if they want to say, "Oh Jesus didn't really mean 'never forgiven', He was just trying to show how serious this sin was and is...". Really? If Jesus didn't mean exactly what He said here, then you can't trust anything He said!

But NBF you miss that it was not the Holy Spirit that was unclean....they claimed Christ had an unclean spirit. The pharisees were claiming that Christ possessed an unclean spirit. We are not Christ.

As far as amazement? Well it amazes me that it is clear that the Bible teaches that if we do not accept Christ in this life then we will never receive salvation...meaning we will never be forgiven. It amazes me that people put blasphemy in a box of just "saying" something, when in reality it means so much more. When putting things in the box of speech, you start to conflict with what the Bible teaches when it says that all sins can be forgiven repeatedly without any exceptions. But at this point we are to consider there is an exception? That creates confusion....God is not the author of confusion. But instead what does make sense and does not conflict with other verses in the Bible is to look at blasphemy as the irreverence towards God that the Jews were exhibiting, not the words, but what was in their hearts.

Again the Bible has always been about what was in the hearts of men and not their actions. Christ spoke of this often, Paul repeated the message all the time. It is also a much more dire warning than "don't say anything bad about the Holy Spirit".

nobdysfool · Feb 12, 2016

brotherjerry said:
But NBF you miss that it was not the Holy Spirit that was unclean....they claimed Christ had an unclean spirit. The pharisees were claiming that Christ possessed an unclean spirit. We are not Christ.

who was the spirit they referred to? Who was empowering the miracles? Jesus was doing miracles, casting out demons, by the Power of the Holy Spirit, and the Pharisees called that spirit unclean, hence they called the Holy Spirit unclean. Game, set, match.

As far as amazement? Well it amazes me that it is clear that the Bible teaches that if we do not accept Christ in this life then we will never receive salvation...meaning we will never be forgiven. It amazes me that people put blasphemy in a box of just "saying" something, when in reality it means so much more. When putting things in the box of speech, you start to conflict with what the Bible teaches when it says that all sins can be forgiven repeatedly without any exceptions. But at this point we are to consider there is an exception? That creates confusion....God is not the author of confusion. But instead what does make sense and does not conflict with other verses in the Bible is to look at blasphemy as the irreverence towards God that the Jews were exhibiting, not the words, but what was in their hearts.

Look, Jesus was clear in what He said, and what He meant. In post after post, you have been trying to nullify the very words of Jesus. I think that's a very dangerous thing to do. Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is not a situation that comes up very often. In fact it is very rare. And an Unbeliever cannot commit this sin, because of the circumstances surrounding this incident in Scripture. The Pharisees knew very well whose Power was in operation. As Jesus indicated, even their own sons (Pharisees) cast out demons, so Jesus wasn't doing something that had never been done before. The sin behind this sin is simple to identify, it was jealousy.

Again the Bible has always been about what was in the hearts of men and not their actions. Christ spoke of this often, Paul repeated the message all the time. It is also a much more dire warning than "don't say anything bad about the Holy Spirit".

Why do you insist on making light of a very serious situation? Why do you insist on trying to nullify the Words of Jesus?

brotherjerry · Feb 12, 2016

NBF. We will simply have to agree to disagree. It is not a matter of salvation so carries little weight to me as far as "caring". And by that I mean you or I are not going to lose our soul for having different opinions on the application of these verses in our lives...in the end if you abide by your view then you are safe, and the same for mine.

*Edit: For the record...I am not nullifying anything. What Christ said here carries just as much weight as other verses in which Jesus spoke. Nor do I nullify what others are recorded as saying in the Bible such as John in 1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

zachariahjosephturner · Jul 25, 2016

OK I'll add my two cents on here I have to agree Jesus made it clear what blasphemy was it's speaking againts....and then in the very next vets in Matthew he used the word blasphemy which is a transliteration it means to speak against ....but it's more than that if you do a great study on the word blasphemy you will find it means to literally speak against with a purpose and intent it's not just some mixed up words or what whatever I as a Christian since early 2009 I've been through the whole intrusive out blast family hearing blasphemous thoughts 24 seven against the spirit of God which were not me but I have learned one thing and I believe with all my heart that blasphemy is a spoken Sin...... First I truly believe anybody who truly commits that seat I mean literally commit to the unpardonable sin never to be forgiven I believe that person's heart is so hard and so cold that they don't even want God I don't think it's really that God won't forget them I mean that's what it says he won't forget them but more so that they don't want his forgiveness and I believe that person has to hate God I mean with a hatred so far beyond the word hate that they would go and slander the spirit knowing better knowing better Literally doing it with an ENT and not caring your heart is so hard that when you speak against the spirit knowing who he is doing it on purpose you hate hearing you see him move and it disgusting you speak against it with such passion and hatred that's what I believe the unpardonable sin is.....Sure where is Christian sometimes might get frustrated at God or may say something out of anger or frustration as in this a lot it's not easy being a Christian at times but we hold on to God and no matter what though he slay me yet will I trust in him but I have to agree with what the first guy said Jesus said it'll never be forgiven and blasphemy is a spoken saying and you have to know what you're doing

zachariahjosephturner · Jul 25, 2016

I'll say again I went through the whole fear of the unpardonable Ceyenne I would have all these for later cursewords in my mind coming against the Holy Ghost and it comes the oppression got so bad that I would accidentally slip and say something but that's not the unpardonable see you have to literally become an apostate you have to be so hard hearted that you literally hate everything of Jesus if someone even mentions Jesus something in you speaks out and said shut your mouth so let me tell you I don't think it such an easy send to commit I mean I believe it's only committed by those such is life describes your Pharisees or somebody who wants truly knew Jesus and has turned against him an unbeliever who has no true knowledge of the Spirit I do not believe can bless somebody who knows the spirit who knows God has what's known him and turned away or a professor of religion can blast but only God knows who has and who has a blast but I can assure you if you have any inkling whatsoever with in you for the things of God then you've not blasphemed.....I don't think it's having some blasphemous thought into your mind Or whatever that constitutes the unpardonable sin it's a tongue see you know like I said I was heavily oh prayers and at times I accidentally spoke that that's not the unpardonable sin in fact in Mark is says because they were saying and in the Greek it means because I kept on saying so it wasn't just a slip of the tongue or nothing they were settled in their actions they were settled in their heart it was a mindset that's what I believe it truly is a mindset never to be changed no matter how much God moved your does it's a mindset now I could be wrong but you know like I said like the first guy said it's a tongue sin it's not rejecting Jesus I've done that it's not reject The spirit I've done that it's not unbelief although I believe Emily is a detrimental CNN can truly truly bring you to the depths of despair unbelief is a horrible thing you can read about it in the Bible from the children of Israel but I believe that blasphemy has to be spoken before other people within the intent to harm the Holy Ghost like if you were to go to a true me where he was moving in on purpose want to say it's the work of you know what I do keep mocking it on purpose and laugh at it but in my heart I love the spirit and I'm so thankful I have him.....sorry this is long but I would like your feedback you can check out my other thread I wrote I went through a long long oppression. Where I would battle blasphemous feelings and thoughts that were so beyond the pale of ungodliness I can't even explain it but thank God he's bringing me through it

brinny · Aug 8, 2016

Interesting topic.

The Holy Spirit is Who wins hearts, minds, and souls.

To reject the Holy Spirit's "prompting" is what happens when someone who hears the gospel, and may have even gone back and forth as the Holy Spirit is convicting them, but who rejects the grace extended by the Holy Spirit, and this person eventually dies, never having repented and come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ, has committed an un-pardon-able sin, for he cannot be pardoned now, after death.

It is un-pardon-able.

There is no hope, no redemption, no pardon.

He remains un-pardoned.

For eternity.

Bible Highlighter · Aug 8, 2016

Blasphemy is just speaking bad words against God in some way. That is what it has always meant in the Bible. In the context Jesus is using the word "blasphemy" he is referring to the time the Jews had spoken bad words against the Spirit indirectly when they were insulting Jesus and by what power he was doing the things He was doing. It was a direct insult (using actual words) to the Spirit. Bad words come forth from one's mouth from out of the treasure of one's evil heart. I did not write the Bible. It says plainly that if one were to use curse words (blasphemy) against the Holy Ghost it will not be forgiven them, not in this life or the one to come (i.e. the Millennium). For what is the life to come? Does one think there will be unbelievers in the Millennium? Surely not. Christ will be reigning there. Do you think it will be acceptable to hear the cursing of God's Holy Spirit in the Millennium? Surely not. A curse word is a curse word. It is why we fear the Lord. There are dire consequences in doing certain wrong things.

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zachariahjosephturner · Aug 11, 2016

I believe just as the Scripture says in Matthew is says he that blasphemes and then the next verse it says he that speaks a word againts transliteration it literally means to say something out of your mouth but it's not just in your words alone it's a heart attitude you could say the very same thing the scribes and Pharisees said and have not committed the unpardonable sin I would recommend David Wilkerson on the unpardonable sin it's really good..... But I also believe that a person who can truly speak I'll of the Holy Ghost on purpose and with an evil intint is truly so far gone that they won't even ask for forgiveness and I believe that those who do blaspheme don't have long to live ........I knew of one instance my pastor told me where he Witnessed a woman right in front of him who truly mocked and blaspheme the Holy Ghost and God prophesied through him to her saying she only had six months to live ......the story goes that when she died on the hospital bed she lifted up her fist and cursed God and the man who was standing by the bed said it was as if he could see flames in golfing her face as she cursed God .......but just wanted to add my two cents I've went through the whole unpardonable sin scare .....thank God he's brung me out of it.....

brotherjerry · Aug 22, 2016

Jason0047 said:
Blasphemy is just speaking bad words against God in some way. That is what it has always meant in the Bible. In the context Jesus is using the word "blasphemy" he is referring to the time the Jews had spoken bad words against the Spirit indirectly when they were insulting Jesus and by what power he was doing the things He was doing. It was a direct insult (using actual words) to the Spirit. Bad words come forth from one's mouth from out of the treasure of one's evil heart. I did not write the Bible. It says plainly that if one were to use curse words (blasphemy) against the Holy Ghost it will not be forgiven them, not in this life or the one to come (i.e. the Millennium). For what is the life to come? Does one think there will be unbelievers in the Millennium? Surely not. Christ will be reigning there. Do you think it will be acceptable to hear the cursing of God's Holy Spirit in the Millennium? Surely not. A curse word is a curse word. It is why we fear the Lord. There are dire consequences in doing certain wrong things.

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This is simply not true. In the Bible blasphemy is not just a spoken word against God.
Revelations 2:9 "and the blasphemy by those who say they are Jews and are not,"
Ezekiel 20:27 "“Yet in this your fathers have blasphemed Me by acting treacherously against Me."

These two verses clearly indicate that actions are also considered blasphemy. Many others can also be understood to be more than just words but also actions.

Paul also teaches that one can be a blasphemer and be shown mercy. 1 Timothy 1:13 "even though I was formerly a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent aggressor. Yet I was shown mercy because I acted ignorantly in unbelief;"

God deals with the heart, He knows that all actions can be forgiven. And we have to then look at the subject of that verse being the Holy Spirit. God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all one. Using only the idea of blasphemy being verbal words spoken against something, it is illogical to say that you can blaspheme God the Father, the Son, but not the Holy Spirit when they are all one. That illogical nature means we have to look deeper. What sets the Holy Spirit apart from the Father and Son?

The Holy Spirit is what Christ sent after His ascension. John 14:16 "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever;"
The Holy Spirit provides conviction John 16:8 "And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment;"
The Holy Spirit guides us in truth John 16:13 "And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment;"

So when we look at speaking and actions against the Holy Spirit specifically we have to look at what the Holy Spirit does and how does it relate to man. So speaking against the Holy Spirit is rejection of the comforter, refusal to submit to the conviction of the Spirit, rejecting the truth. Paul understood this and is why he put himself into that category. And then showed that even he could become forgiven. And the Gospel narratives would have been circulating by the time Paul wrote his letter to Timothy so Paul would have heard of the message of blaspheming the Holy Spirit, but yet he still utilized that term when referring to himself.

So clearly the message of blaspheming the Holy Spirit is not talking about talking bad about the Holy Spirit but instead is in reference to rejecting the Holy Spirit and it is only unto death at which time it becomes unpardonable. Once you die rejecting Christ you are gone, there is no second chance, there is no prayers from family members that are going to bring you to Heaven or anything like that.

Bible Highlighter · Aug 22, 2016

brotherjerry said:
This is simply not true. In the Bible blasphemy is not just a spoken word against God.
Revelations 2:9 "and the blasphemy by those who say they are Jews and are not,"
Ezekiel 20:27 "“Yet in this your fathers have blasphemed Me by acting treacherously against Me."

These two verses clearly indicate that actions are also considered blasphemy. Many others can also be understood to be more than just words but also actions.

Paul also teaches that one can be a blasphemer and be shown mercy. 1 Timothy 1:13 "even though I was formerly a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent aggressor. Yet I was shown mercy because I acted ignorantly in unbelief;"

God deals with the heart, He knows that all actions can be forgiven. And we have to then look at the subject of that verse being the Holy Spirit. God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all one. Using only the idea of blasphemy being verbal words spoken against something, it is illogical to say that you can blaspheme God the Father, the Son, but not the Holy Spirit when they are all one. That illogical nature means we have to look deeper. What sets the Holy Spirit apart from the Father and Son?

The Holy Spirit is what Christ sent after His ascension. John 14:16 "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever;"
The Holy Spirit provides conviction John 16:8 "And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment;"
The Holy Spirit guides us in truth John 16:13 "And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment;"

So when we look at speaking and actions against the Holy Spirit specifically we have to look at what the Holy Spirit does and how does it relate to man. So speaking against the Holy Spirit is rejection of the comforter, refusal to submit to the conviction of the Spirit, rejecting the truth. Paul understood this and is why he put himself into that category. And then showed that even he could become forgiven. And the Gospel narratives would have been circulating by the time Paul wrote his letter to Timothy so Paul would have heard of the message of blaspheming the Holy Spirit, but yet he still utilized that term when referring to himself.

So clearly the message of blaspheming the Holy Spirit is not talking about talking bad about the Holy Spirit but instead is in reference to rejecting the Holy Spirit and it is only unto death at which time it becomes unpardonable. Once you die rejecting Christ you are gone, there is no second chance, there is no prayers from family members that are going to bring you to Heaven or anything like that.

No. Here is what the dictionary says,

Judaism.

an act of cursing or reviling God"

While it's main meaning can be defined as:

1. impious utterance or action concerning God or sacred things

It's root meaning is in the Jewish belief of cursing God with one's tongue.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/blasphemy

The KJV translates Strongs G987 in the following manner: blaspheme (17x),speak evil of (10x), rail on (2x), blasphemer (1x), speak blasphemy (1x),blasphemously (1x), miscellaneous (3x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]

to speak reproachfully, rail at, revile, calumniate, blaspheme
to be evil spoken of, reviled, railed at

Also, the context determines the meaning of the word "blasphemy." Yet, even the root meaning of the word "blasphemy" is to speak bad words against God. So when it is used in the context of doing something bad as far as actions (it is pointing back to the original meaning of the word as a like comparison - Sort of like a metaphor).

But we know that the word "blaphemy" is speaking bad words in the context that Jesus is using it because his accusers just said bad words against Jesus's miracles (Thereby committing blasphemy or bad words against the Holy Spirit. For Jesus did miracles by the Holy Spirit).

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brotherjerry · Aug 22, 2016

Sorry Jason...I did not use the dictionary...I used the Bible. And the Bible clearly shows that blasphemy is NOT just words. You can choose to accept that or not. But that is the simple truth of the matter.

Let is also be noted that there is no Hebrew word for blaspheme. There are several other concepts that were translated to the Greek/English concept of blaspheme. The verbs "curse" (qalal ), "revile" (gadap), or "despise" (herep) are used with God as the object and are what are translated to blasphemy. With those the verb could be committed verbally or through action.

Nehemiah 9:18 talks about the Isrealites making the golden calf. It says they committed "blasphemies" and the literal translation would have been "acts of contempt"

zachariahjosephturner · Aug 22, 2016

Blasphemy is an anglicized form of the Greek term blasphemia, which derives from two roots, blapto, to injure, and pheme, to speak. The word would thus suggest injurious speech

The word “blasphemy” in its various forms (as verb, noun, adjective, etc.) appears some fifty-nine times in the New Testament. It has a variety of renderings, such as, “blasphemy,” “reviled,” “railed,” “evil spoken of,” “to speak evil of,” etc. Examples of these various renderings are: “They that passed by reviled him” (Matthew 27:39). “He that shall blaspheme” (Mark 3:29). “They that passed by railed on him” (Mark 15:29). “The way of truth shall be evil spoken of ” (2 Peter 2:2). “These speak evil of those things” (Jude 10). It is evident from these that blasphemy is a sin of the mouth, a “tongue-sin.” All New Testament writers except the author of Hebrews use the word.

Furthermore, Jesus defined the term when, after referring to blasphemy, He used the phrase “speaks a word against” in Matthew 12:32. But in the context of which Jesus's used the word blasphemy in Matthew 12:31 it says "but the blasphemy" which tells me it's a certain type of blasphemy......and can only be committed against the Holy Spirit. And then in Matthew 12:32 he does not use the word blasphemy but instead says "speaks a word againts".......in Mark 3:28 you read Jesus speaking about the blasphemy againts the Holy Spirit....why???? Mark 3:30 tell us...."because they said he had an unclean spirit" because they SAID!!!! He said what He said because they said what they said......and to he said for out of the abundance of the heart the MOUTH SPEAKS.....so I believe according to what the Bible says that the blasphemy of the Spirit is a tounge sin and there has to be a motive behind it and it comes forth out of an evil and pervers heart. It's not just a thought it's something birthed out of a harden life style that willfully and totally rejects and hates Jesus.....and when you can truly with all your heart knowingly and willfully with eyes wide open ascribe the works of the Holy Spirit to the works of the devil then you are beyond forgiveness!

brotherjerry · Aug 23, 2016

So if I write something against the Holy Spirit then I can be forgiven? As long as I do not do it with my mouth and speak it then it is not blasphemy?

If blasphemy is considered words against God, then the first century Jews of Christ's time would have also understood it to be that. So what words did Christ speak against God that caused the Jews to claim that He had blasphemed?
The obvious answer is none. Instead Christ was performing miracles and because He was doing this and stating that it was by the power of God that He did it...that was the blaspheme...His actions...not His words.

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