Simon Crosby
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If you continue sinning you will be damned. You need to be freed from sin.
Not if you have faith in our Saviour!
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If you continue sinning you will be damned. You need to be freed from sin.
Obviously it is not a lie if Jesus Christ said "be perfect". Or another verse it be said, " if by one offering he has perfected", and then in another passage, "he who is born of God cannot sin". When people like you regurgitate such nonsense theology, you quickly discard these plain verses indicating that a true man of God cannot sin, as he has been perfected by holy spirit.
Not if you have faith in our Saviour!
But, as I pointed out before,Because those letters were given to entire assemblies, who had new believers who had nor yet received the holy spirit and ones that did. So as I said, these exhortations do not imply that they were all disobedient.
Then, why does Paul exhort perfectly righteous people who don't need exhortations to live righteous, to live righteously?
Your polemic is still a false dichotomy as there are more valid explanations. Your assertions do not stand the test of Biblical exegesis. That has been pointed out by several posters.
Besides Jesus Christ who has attained your goal of a sinless state in their earthly corporeal state?
But, as I pointed out before,
In Romans 15:14, Paul does not distinguish between those having the Spirit and those in the flesh. He addresses both alike. Each is full of goodness, and needs the occasional admonishment.
He does not say, "able to admonish those who are yet without the Spirit."
Faith without works is dead.
Goal post shifting. Unless you see human works is how you attain a sinless state.
That would be the polar opposite of antinomianism and is called Pelagianism.
Both are heresies.
The burden of reconciliation rests on the absolute statement. John says, "he who is born of God cannot sin", but he also says, "if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous." Not you have an advocate, but we.Yet in another passage we read that he who is born of God cannot sin, so you have to reconcile that verse with this.
Definitely. That notion puts the cart before the horse. The sinner doesn't work for faith, he scoffs at it. But, once he receives faith and his eyes are opened to the reality of the mercy shown to him, then the aim of his life becomes an act of service to the God that so loves the Hell-deserving sinner. 2 Corinthians 5:14-15Is it just me or does anyone else take pause with notion of working for a free gift?
So if you wish to attain salvation, you must work towards attaining this free gift.
Exactly!
And we achieve this by confessing our sins, (Matthew 16:18), doing good deeds (Hebrews 13:16) , loving our brothers and sisters (1 John 4:20-21), loving God with all of heart, soul, and mind (Luke 10:27) and following the path of God (Job 23:11).
Look, Salvation is simple. If you continue to live your life the way you were before and only lived for yourself and were an extremely mean, hateful, and disrespectful person and break God's commandments without any consideration to them. Yet, preached to others "I love God" than yeah, Jesus will declare to you "I did not know you."
However if you follow God's commandments, follow God's path for you, confess your sins, and believe in and honor the sacrifice that our Lord has made for ALL of us. Than you will be saved (John 3:15 & 2 Corinthians 5:14-15).
It's possible to follow all of God's commandments. But, It's not possible to sin no more. And THAT is why God sent Jesus to the earth to die for our sins and made Salvation possible. I agree with you Christ's gift of salvation is not easy and many Christians take his sacrifice for granted. But, the holy spirit doesn't cleanse us of ALL sin and to claim so is just ludicrous. If humanity was capable of not sinning anymore, Jesus wouldn't have needed to die in the first place.
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. (Daniel 9:24 [KJV])
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. (1 John 3:9 [KJV])
The whole purpose of why Jesus Christ came was to cause his people to not sin anymore, not just to atone for sin, this is what you don't understand. So yes, the holy spirit does clean of ALL sin, its in the scriptures, see for yourself,
Jesus Christ didn't just come to atone for iniquities once and for all, he also came to bring an end to sin.
The heart is where desires are, so if God is removing your stony heart, he is in fact removing your evil desires, meaning if you had a desire to steal, you will not longer want to steal, if you had a desire to commit sexual immorality, you will no longer have that desire. And then he says he will give you a new heart of flesh, meaning a heart that has godly desires. And how does he do this? By putting his holy spirit in you. And then this prophecy says, you will indeed obey God. God removes all evil desires from within you, that is how you are not able to sin anymore, and thus fulfill this scripture,
If you are still sinning, you have not been baptized in the holy spirit, because the whole point of being baptized into the holy spirit is be become freed from the corrupt fleshly nature that causes sin.
Am I to be impressed by your vocabulary? I would rather you quote scriptures that are wiser than your foolish babbles. I have provided my scriptures, you have provided none.