Why Donald Trump is a Moronic Racist Lunatic and Should Not Be President

Sketcher · Feb 7, 2016

pakicetus said:
Donald Trump is still the Republican front-runner for President. Only 22% of Republicans think he'd be a bad President, and around 90% of Republicans say they'd support him in the general election. My question is, why?

He's incredibly misinformed (or incredibly dishonest). According to him, the unemployment rate could secretly be 42% (when it's actually less than 5%) and America has the highest taxes in the world (when we have the lowest taxes in the first world, and Denmark's taxes are twice as high). That last claim isn't a spontaneous gaffe—he's said it at least three times, including yesterday. Of his claims that PolitiFact has checked, 7% have been "true" or "mostly true," which means he's about as accurate as chain emails. Shouldn't the President know something about politics? Everyone knows America has lower taxes than socialist countries! Wolves know that!

He's a racist, sexist bully. He's implied Megyn Kelly was on her period, insulted John McCain for being a prisoner of war (but he loves the veterans!), called Mexican immigrants rapists, said a Black Lives Matter protester deserved to get assaulted at his rally, tweeted "Our great African-American President hasn't exactly had a positive impact on the thugs who are so happily and openly destroying Baltimore," hired a spokeswoman who had publicly called Barack Obama a "half-breed," and re-tweeted inaccurate crime statistics about black people from a white nationalist twitter feed (presumably to compliment blacks, I don't know). I can't believe he gets so much praise for being "politically incorrect." Isn't there a difference between political incorrectness and racism? Why can't more people tell the difference?

His policies make no sense, and even contradict each other. He says he won't increase the deficit, even though he wants to cut taxes by over a trillion dollars a year. It's impossible to cut that much spending on his terms. Let me explain: He wants to expand the military and leave Social Security and Medicare alone. Since the military, Social Security, Medicare, and interest on the debt make up almost 80% of the federal budget, we spend about $726 billion on everything else combined. Add in veterans' benefits (which I assume he doesn't want to cut since he says he'll "fight for veterans"), and it's $565 billion. So even if we spend zero dollars on everything Trump hasn't promised he won't cut (including roads, bridges, education, housing, welfare, Medicaid, public transportation, food stamps, scientific research, foreign aid, environmental protection, etc., etc.), and we don't increase spending on anything, his policies would still increase the deficit by hundreds of billions of dollars. Either his policies are massive, deliberate lies, or he has no idea what he's talking about.

Most of his other ideas are just as irrational. He wants to ban Muslims from entering the country to stop terrorism, even though there's no way to tell who's a Muslim and who isn't, and terrorists kill less than 20 people a year (you might as well be scared of elves). He wants to build a border wall to keep out "the illegals," even though net illegal immigration from Mexico has been at zero for ten years (which means as many of them are leaving America as entering it). He supports a 45% tariff on Chinese exports, even though virtually all economists support free trade (an economist I knows says it's as accepted among economists as evolution is among biologists). He doesn't want to do anything about global warming, since he thinks it's a hoax. He wants to return to the gold standard, even though virtually all economists think it's a horrible idea.

He's a complete lunatic. He's said Obama stole the last election, Ted Cruz stole Iowa, vaccines cause autism, Bernie Sanders is a "Communist" who wants to tax us at 90%, Barack Obama might be a Muslim Kenyan, and the Chinese made up global warming to hurt American manufacturing. Even if you support some of his policies, do you want someone this crazy to have the nuclear launch codes?

Trump is one of the reasons I'm a Democrat. I can't vote for someone like him over sane candidates with actual qualifications. I'd have trouble even voting for people who choose to align themselves with a party that supports Trump.

The Democrats haven't exactly been supporters of free trade and they actively push the lower unemployment numbers (which don't count the people who have given up on finding work) because of their faith in the big government bureaucracy which is responsible for reporting these numbers, and because they want to bolster Obama. You should consider other Republican candidates, or other parties entirely.

pakicetus · Feb 7, 2016

DLR said:
Therein lies the a problem of the parties getting too far apart in ideology. I suspect I am much older than you and that does matter some.

You don't have to search for an explanation, because my views aren't even weird in most other countries. Most people in the rest of the first world think the Republican Party is crazy. Over 90% of them preferred Obama over Romney in 2012, the same as in 2008. So I don't think my partisanship makes me an outlier—it's the rest of America that's extreme. Nobody in the rest of the world denies global warming; over 90% of Europeans think it's a serious problem (meanwhile, 91% of Republican Senators think anthropogenic global warming is a hoax, and they're supposed to be the moderate ones). Every other first world country focuses more on rehabilitation and less on punishment, which is why we have seven times the incarceration rate of Canada and Western Europe. Every other first world country guarantees paid maternity leave, paid sick leave, paid vacation, and universal healthcare. Most of them also have universal pre-K and free/nearly-free college, and spend more to prevent poverty in children, the elderly and the disabled—and it works out perfectly fine. So when I hear an American politician is "far left," I think "I'll wait until they'd be electable in Germany before I start worrying." And when Republican politicians claim America is doomed because of moderate liberal policies, or even Bernie Sanders' policies like government-funded college and single-payer healthcare (which so many Americans can't distinguish from Soviet-style Marxism-Leninism), I wonder if they have a screw loose.

But what really makes it easy to vote Democrat is the sheer number of Republican politicians who are either extremely ignorant or extremely irrational. Can the Republicans find a Presidential candidate who actually knows that Communism and liberalism are different things (in other words, who could pass a high school course on government or economics)? Or who accepts the science on global warming and wants to do something about it? Or understands that racism is still a major problem (and not just racism against whites)? Or doesn't believe in some kind of crazy conspiracy theory?

GoldenBoy89 · Feb 7, 2016

dysert said:
And here I thought we were going to be serious.

In a thread about Donald Trump?... Really?

dogs4thewin · Feb 7, 2016

Hetta said:
The ACA didn't and won't kill millions across the world.

That was not my point. My point was that no matter how much the American voter did or not support Obama or did or not support the ACA we are still affected by it.

bhsmte · Feb 7, 2016

Hetta said:
So you see Trump as the only option to Clinton. Nobody knows yet if that will be the choice to make. Trump already failed in Iowa.

Here is the thing though; In the last few decades, the republican who wins Iowa, usually doesn't win the nomination.

KarateCowboy · Feb 7, 2016

I do not like Trump, therefore I will call him a racist.

The Cadet · Feb 7, 2016

KarateCowboy said:
I do not like Trump, therefore I will call him a racist.

I don't like David Duke, therefore I will call him a racist.

DLR · Feb 7, 2016

pakicetus said:
You don't have to search for an explanation, because my views aren't even weird at all in most other countries. Most people in the entire rest of the first world think the Republican Party is crazy. Over 90% of them preferred Obama over Romney in 2012, the same as in 2008. So I don't think my partisanship makes me an outlier—it's the rest of America that's extreme. Nobody in the rest of the world denies global warming; over 90% of Europeans think it's a serious problem (meanwhile, 91% of Republican Senators think anthropogenic global warming is a hoax, and they're supposed to be the moderate ones). Every other first world country focuses more on rehabilitation and less on punishment, which is why we have seven times the incarceration rate of Canada and Western Europe. Every other first world country guarantees paid maternity leave, paid sick leave, paid vacation, and universal healthcare. Most of them also have universal pre-K and free/nearly-free college, and spend more to prevent poverty in children, the elderly and the disabled—and it works out perfectly fine. So when I hear an American politician is "far left," I think "I'll wait until they'd be electable in Germany before I start worrying." And when Republican politicians claim America is doomed because of moderate liberal policies, or even Bernie Sanders' policies like government-funded college and single-payer healthcare (which so many Americans can't distinguish from Soviet-style Marxism-Leninism), I wonder if they have a screw loose.

But what really makes it easy to vote Democrat is the sheer number of Republican politicians who are either extremely ignorant or extremely irrational. Can the Republicans find a Presidential candidate who actually knows that Communism and liberalism are different things (in other words, who could pass a high school course on government or economics)? Or who accepts the science on global warming and wants to do something about it? Or understands that racism is still a major problem? Or doesn't believe in some kind of crazy conspiracy theory?

There is no point in responding line by line. I accept that we are polar opposites on many issues. Among MANY other issues I believe are important, I think smaller FED government is better because I haven't seen the FEDs manage many large endeavors anywhere near efficiently. I am fiscally conservative. We should work MUCH harder at a balanced budgetor this ends bad IMO.

Can I get you to define what you mean when you state something is "free". I am honestly not asking so I can pounce on your answer. Most Bernie fans I meet are clearly far less intelligent than you. I believe I am fairly well aware of European individual tax rates, fuel costs etc. That is why such a simple word as "free" needs clarification. It eludes me as a liberal might rationally define it.

Smidlee · Feb 7, 2016

The Cadet said:
Because that is not what Trump said. What he said was, and I quote:

Thank you. It's true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

Common sense should tell you this is true. If anyone (no matter where they come from) enters into our country illegally they are more likely to do other illegal things. Anyone who tries their best to enter legally are more likely to obey other laws.

Is that all he said? Ha, no.

"I don’t see how there is any room for misunderstanding or misinterpretation of the statement I made on June 16th during my Presidential announcement speech," Trump wrote, adding, "What can be simpler or more accurately stated? The Mexican Government is forcing their most unwanted people into the United States. They are, in many cases, criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc."

From what I was taught England did the exact same thing before our independents.

And more...

"Likewise, tremendous infectious disease is pouring across the border. The United States has become a dumping ground for Mexico and, in fact, for many other parts of the world."

The whole reason for borders is to keep that from happening. Even a living cell can't survive without borders.

The problem here is that none of this is true. None of it.

Are you so sure? Why do you think nations have borders the start with.

Albion · Feb 7, 2016

KarateCowboy said:
I do not like Trump, therefore I will call him a racist.

That sums up the thread very well.

myownmynativeland · Feb 7, 2016

pakicetus said:
Donald Trump is still the Republican front-runner for President. Only 22% of Republicans think he'd be a bad President, and around 90% of Republicans say they'd support him in the general election. My question is, why?

He's incredibly misinformed (or incredibly dishonest). According to him, the unemployment rate could secretly be 42% (when it's actually less than 5%) and America has the highest taxes in the world (when we have the lowest taxes in the first world, and Denmark's taxes are twice as high). That last claim isn't a spontaneous gaffe—he's said it at least three times, including yesterday. Of his claims that PolitiFact has checked, 7% have been "true" or "mostly true," which means he's about as accurate as chain emails. Shouldn't the President know something about politics? Everyone knows America has lower taxes than socialist countries! Wolves know that!

He's a racist, sexist bully. He's implied Megyn Kelly was on her period, insulted John McCain for being a prisoner of war (but he loves the veterans!), called Mexican immigrants rapists, said a Black Lives Matter protester deserved to get assaulted at his rally, tweeted "Our great African-American President hasn't exactly had a positive impact on the thugs who are so happily and openly destroying Baltimore," hired a spokeswoman who had publicly called Barack Obama a "half-breed," and re-tweeted inaccurate crime statistics about black people from a white nationalist twitter feed (presumably to compliment blacks, I don't know). I can't believe he gets so much praise for being "politically incorrect." Isn't there a difference between political incorrectness and racism? Why can't more people tell the difference?

His policies make no sense, and even contradict each other. He says he won't increase the deficit, even though he wants to cut taxes by over a trillion dollars a year. It's impossible to cut that much spending on his terms. Let me explain: He wants to expand the military and leave Social Security and Medicare alone. Since the military, Social Security, Medicare, and interest on the debt make up almost 80% of the federal budget, we spend about $726 billion on everything else combined. Add in veterans' benefits (which I assume he doesn't want to cut since he says he'll "fight for veterans"), and it's $565 billion. So even if we spend zero dollars on everything Trump hasn't promised he won't cut (including roads, bridges, education, housing, welfare, Medicaid, public transportation, food stamps, scientific research, foreign aid, environmental protection, etc., etc.), and we don't increase spending on anything, his policies would still increase the deficit by hundreds of billions of dollars. Either his policies are massive, deliberate lies, or he has no idea what he's talking about.

Most of his other ideas are just as irrational. He wants to ban Muslims from entering the country to stop terrorism, even though there's no way to tell who's a Muslim and who isn't, and terrorists kill less than 20 people a year (you might as well be scared of elves). He wants to build a border wall to keep out "the illegals," even though net illegal immigration from Mexico has been at zero for ten years (which means as many of them are leaving America as entering it). He supports a 45% tariff on Chinese exports, even though virtually all economists support free trade (an economist I knows says it's as accepted among economists as evolution is among biologists). He doesn't want to do anything about global warming, since he thinks it's a hoax. He wants to return to the gold standard, even though virtually all economists think it's a horrible idea.

He's a complete lunatic. He's said Obama stole the last election, Ted Cruz stole Iowa, vaccines cause autism, Bernie Sanders is a "Communist" who wants to tax us at 90%, Barack Obama might be a Muslim Kenyan, and the Chinese made up global warming to hurt American manufacturing. Even if you support some of his policies, do you want someone this crazy to have the nuclear launch codes?

Trump is one of the reasons I'm a Democrat. I can't vote for someone like him over sane candidates with actual qualifications. I'd have trouble even voting for people who choose to align themselves with a party that supports Trump.

Lots of dem talking points there. No Facts, just talking points.

TRUMP 2016! for President

Hilliary 2017! for Prison!

myownmynativeland · Feb 7, 2016

Hetta said:
So you see Trump as the only option to Clinton. Nobody knows yet if that will be the choice to make. Trump already failed in Iowa.

The Iowa winner most always falls by the Primary wayside. Winning Iowa is a kiss of death.

Audacious · Feb 7, 2016

myownmynativeland said:
Lots of dem talking points there. No Facts, just talking points.

TRUMP 2016! for President

Hilliary 2017! for Prison!

He actually said quite a lot of facts, and sourced them. Hardly democratic talking points.

You, on the other hand, didn't source anything or say any facts or refutations.

Job8 · Feb 7, 2016

pakicetus said:
Donald Trump is still the Republican front-runner for President. Only 22% of Republicans think he'd be a bad President, and around 90% of Republicans say they'd support him in the general election. My question is, why?

Because instead of simply ranting against Trump (moronic, racist, sexist, bigoted, lunatic, etc.) people recognize that Donald Trump is a leader who is fed up with the nonsense that goes on in Washington, and the nonsensical policies of the present POTUS (designed to destroy America from within). How come you failed to call Obama a Black Racist? Check out who all are occupying all the key positions in his government (regardless of merit but based on color).

mark46 · Feb 7, 2016

pakicetus said:
YCan the Republicans find a Presidential candidate who actually knows that Communism and liberalism are different things (in other words, who could pass a high school course on government or economics)? Or who accepts the science on global warming and wants to do something about it? Or understands that racism is still a major problem? Or doesn't believe in some kind of crazy conspiracy theory?

Bush, Kasich and Christie all are quite capable of running the US, and are likely as knowledgeable as those running European countries, and certainly more knowledgable than Sanders. Clearly, Clinton is the most ready to be president, but any of these three would likely be better for the country at this point.

And, let me state the obvious. The world would have no problem at all with any of these three, or with Rubio.

Ajax 777 · Feb 7, 2016

Audacious said:
Do we really want the man who doesn't know how to eat pizza -- yet claims to be an American! -- decide when to use our nuclear weapons?

Um, you probably don't remember the ad that clip is taken from — he's advertising Pizza Hut's stuffed crust pizza, which is why he is eating it crust first.

He's just following the script in this ad, much like your candidates in their campaigns. But then, this ad is from his Liberal days.

MerlinJ · Feb 7, 2016

Ajax 777 said:
Um, you probably don't remember the ad that clip is taken from — he's advertising Pizza Hut's stuffed crust pizza, which is why he is eating it crust first.

He's just following the script in this ad, much like your candidates in their campaigns. But then, this ad is from his Liberal days.

lasthero · Feb 7, 2016

The Cadet said:
To be fair, you are supporting Trump explicitly because he has no experience.

Hey, it worked in Trading Places...

mark46 · Feb 7, 2016

Job8 said:
Because instead of simply ranting against Trump (moronic, racist, sexist, bigoted, lunatic, etc.) people recognize that Donald Trump is a leader who is fed up with the nonsense that goes on in Washington, and the nonsensical policies of the present POTUS (designed to destroy America from within). How come you failed to call Obama a Black Racist? Check out who all are occupying all the key positions in his government (regardless of merit but based on color).

Trump is business leader who is fed up with Washington. That's enough to be president? Wow! What a country!

myownmynativeland · Feb 7, 2016

Audacious said:
He actually said quite a lot of facts, and sourced them. Hardly democratic talking points.

You, on the other hand, didn't source anything or say any facts or refutations.

Sorry his hate filled rants are not facts

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