Stumbling block in forgivness

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New....Normal.... One hears ! In the moment where concept is rapid fire these two terms speak in process complete . Our physical expletives show these two as obscure to each other .

Ahhhh, what is a mystic but a great understander :clap:

Not necessarily, and most likely not. I will elaborate if you wish.
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https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=evanescence+bring+me+to+life

In relationship to mind body soul , when she says "Bring me to light" ...

Excellent song ..... So many times when I have heard songs in the past .... I didn't really hear them ..... when we live the truth, His truth can be found everywhere, and we hear for the first time (our deafness has been healed) ..... will quote 2knowhim .....

When He becomes your All ..... All displays Him
 
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Amen Jugg,

A lot of songs change meaning when one replaces the motivator from guy girl to God. One such song is journeys Faithfully . "Being on the road aint easy on this love affair" in the song, would hold special to you I'm sure, knowing your profession. Also, "I send my love over the wire" as we sow seeds to people of learned love from God. The link is in "Wrestling with the spirit" and that song will move your heart, I'm sure, for there will be a line or two in it that talk to you personally, and 2knowhim. Tell ya what... Instead , the link will be below...
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=faithfully+journey
 
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Hi Fan, Oh I love this song and Journey, and your right it does move me in spirit when I hear it.
Heres one for ya, this one always touches my heart when I think of The Lord singing to us, instead of the girl, guy thing.

Ummm, the song does not link in this format. May be privacy settings to high on my part. However, try this, because some links do come in for me. Instead of going all the way to the video stop at the Title page in u-tube and copy the address like above link does in previous posts. Come back here and use the hyper link icon above and paste it then insert button. :oldthumbsup: Remember, don't let Dr.Bubba steal your joy ^_^ .
 
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:hug: to all,

As one reasons with God we realize we think small compaired to the vastness of God. As this thread started in a stumbling block becuase the Word was "All" to me on my own for I was stuck in verse 39 in the following verses. These verses hit me on levels in ~Spirit~ read. John 5:39-40. Also this one, Gen:3:22 in the US. The subject is on Adam the only begotten of God (no momma no daddy) in light. One asks now, is there reteric between God and darkness/adversary/devil/satan/void/principality. It is written Light chose darkness John:6:70 so there is reteric between God and darkness and us too John 8:44. Thus the "US" in Gen:3:22 is what? Remember the subject is on Light. Later in our limitation of the time line these terms were brought to the light... Agreence with adversary. That opened this mind to delve further . We forgive or not? There are but two choices in our limited body & mind we have. If one forgives people but not darkness how does one function in a mind caught in judgment ? Understand this is not a furtherence of evil that it is good . It is a clearing of a mind caught in judgment of "Any" darkness weather it be people , devils, satans, sins that we can not function in Light if we have judgment on any...Thing, right? We are not built in this present reallity of choice to entertain in the mind a Satan in judgment format for this truth Rom:3:10 & 23 that apply to all. It sums up as, Satan judging Satan, Sin judging Sin, Darkness judging Darkness. One would direct us back to Gen:1:4. Notice no judgment on the darkness but a turning away from by our God. In a mind seeking light... Some things are Gods alone as we reset our minds in forgiveness in Hopest all things . We do not practice evil, we turn our back on it, and let God seperate it. For me, this freed the mind not to judge even the source of evil for it knows not what it does as it judges itself. Like a child with no knowledge of evil we love evil (not in its wrongness but in hope that it will change) untill it flees or accepts a change of its inner workings = Agape in us. Agape out of us with realization humanity can not entertain a satan in our present reallity of choice. :clap:

In reasoning with God (Not FTS partial testomey that follows. We differ in what each of us needs) we have to learn of us. Can we entertain a Satan and apply hate to it? Does this not require effort in darkness eminating from ourselves in a mind of judgment in hate? The Word must use something to speak to a soul in negativity but one does not seperate describers from appliers (as I did not for decades). If I saw hate in the Word, then hate I do, in sincere ignorence (on my own) that the Word alone will teach. That drove me bonkers ^_^. Then John 5:40 starts a change inside of us and rebuilds perception in love. My mind caught in verse 39 with no reasoning but my own. Needless to say , I , drove me bonkers in hate this but not that . (How about love all ~Spirit Speak~)... Hhmmmm... "I know not love Father can you teach me"? He says yes. "~First love thyself as I love you~". How do you love me? "~LIKE THIS SON~" 1 Cor:13:4-8 "~Now connect this to what you just read of me 1 John 4:8, 16,18,19~". Thus, a time to read those verses first before any further reading of the Word to bask in a love unfathomable and a key change takes place inside over...Time. First love heirarchy. God loves me like that :bigeye: even in my evil :bigeye:.
Thus the start of Rom:12:2 in a love affair between us and God where no man, religion or deeds surpass our time together in the Word to understand ,me firstly, that in my own confusion of being.In giving judgment a place in my mind and heart was the doorway to the darkness inside of me. Weather it be a self judgment or a judgment of another person. I entertain it and the results are negativity to the Spirit I am from....Light. So, for me, a man who knew no love started with God to re-adjust my perceptions pounded by people to the very crux of my beliefs.A letting go of all conformity the world taught me and revisit the bible complete (Still ongoing) with firstly a firm grasp in NT first to remold my pride of knowledge obtained through labor that self & limitations of humanity must be addressed first. For me, this opened the door (through years of readjusting my ways for His ((Also, still ongoing)), to the very ID of my psychological make up provided by gateways to hell) that in faith of Gods love unfathomable, reciprocation must follow (In time and process. All these steps are not imediate as this format tends to lead a person to think). There is no more judgment as the world taught me and I believed it for my momma, friends and some preachers taught me in sincere love that ultimatly does what? A mind in guilt, right? Our guilt was already dealt with in the seperation of us from Eden (In Part). All in all, perfecting love and dwelling there in a mind of forgiveness for there are but two choices... Forgiveness = Freedom :love2: or Judgment = Madness of a man woman that falls under Darkness judging Darkness in Rom:3:10 & 23 :ouch:. Notice "ALL" in the verses. The "mind" is the start of the temple and the ending in process of ones choosing.

In hopes ... One takes content here in to God for final authority of a mind in freedom or madness.
 
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In a mind enclosed one starts to see the doctrine (no matter the shape or name applied to it) as "part" of process. When we are the truth, find joy in it, and most importantly start to break limitations set by a doctrine and reason with God in the now... One talks strangely to the deaf & the result can be lets kill what is not understood. This one finds that doctrine is where most are stuck for doctrine must choose a format. That format is the "be all" to the mind not enclosed. This is not to cause disparage but to open the mind to the visitors to this thread where God and self reconcile in the realm of concept. When a concept is written on this lacking platform, it is up to the reader to take what is written to God and test it. Test it for what? Love. Ask this question... Creative concept in love is what? For me, living God. Is it not written God is...love (1 john 4:8)? This applies to concept the most, and when concept meets the world it can be labeled in killing rhetoric to the deaf correct? The following relates to mentioned thread later in the read. The tool of x141 is the medium of "a truth" that shows a beyond the bible concept (for the Word must choose a format too and thus limited) in an enclosed garden/mind picture format. It can open the ears to those that hear (for we rejoice in truth, right?) in the journey to oneness in minds enclosed that reason with a living God. Living God speaks in concept and others to open a way never before considered. This repeats, in some ways, previous posts to stop and pray over what you hear here & there for truth, and apply it to selves in the 40 one finds themselves in. All 40's are a level from a creek to the ocean that God has the individual at in the process. We being here, shows an open mind to truth no matter the outrageousness of it. That is the crux, is it not? The more outrageous a truth is, does what? Blocks the mind to consider it in truth, right?

Some things brought to God while following thread ... Who? Showed me I was naked? Answer: People. Who is my hierarchy of love, Rev 2:4? Answer: was people, doctrine and self styled love. Today, God, in a continuous remolding to concept of agape. What format must the bible choose to speak to a nature under Romans 3:10 & John 8:44? Answer: Adversary & Light. If the Word must use a limited format, is the Word the end of process? Answer: At one time yes, for doctrine is created from the Word that limits a living God in rules of human pride that "was" insurmountable in my own want to impress people. Now, no, for these verses have been delved into John 5:39-40 except that verse 40 does not apply to this mind today in remembrance of Matthew 16:18 at the age of 12. However, first love was to people that taught guilt in that doctrine (second love) in sincere ignorance one does not dwell there and it took decades of desolation as my first love in a broken mind that my loved ones would not tell me wrongly. Eating from without manifested in a broken mind, lol. To break that down further is...I walked with darkness as my first love for I refused Luke 14:26 in matters of God. Momentary thinking process? Answer: To share a past in righteousness of methodology where in this mind the past can be laid out in momentary thinking of said methodology where in self and God forgave that past and one does not dwell there, yet, can be a necessary tool in a limited format that a persons judgment means nothing to the vessel or light within for securely Galatians 5:22-23 preside in this vessel that changed the mind from one of judgment (Fear of God) to one of forgiveness (Child of God) in Gods time to bring peace and dwell there in moment by moment thinking process. Agreence of adversary? Answer: This was first but comes last in this list brought to God for one has to personalize this in the words of man to think of a truth inside each of us concerning duality. A mind either forgives "all" or tricks itself in hate this but not that = duality personified. For all mankind, we are limited in mind set, yet refuse that limitation and literally hate sin, devil. serpent, darkness, another and think we are justified to grab that hate. This concept is what separates humanity that one does not place self as the center of choice, Love or Hate? Even Satan, Darkness, Adversary for in this limited existence of choice a choice must be made to a limitation inside of each of us in said choice. This tore at the mind for months and it was effecting my peace for to grab hate is antichrist/light then x141 joined me in this thread combined with this one. http://www.christianforums.com/threads/thoughts.7820784/ Low and behold a new terminology of "agreence with adversary, darkness. sin. devil, satan ... etc"... where all this is the same in a mind of concept and a realization we are limited in choice where most doctrine belief systems have a piece of hate attached to them, thus separation, for mankind put his translation to agape where there is no hate. For you info buffs go to Genesis 1:4 and notice no judgment on darkness for in this present reality what is not said means just as much as what is said about the light...Good. We, like God, do not judge darkness, but separate it from our being
1 Corinthians 14:33 and it is for us to bring the darkness to the light. This realization through asking the tough questions that challenge most doctrines & peoples beliefs freed this mind and God grants peace to those that seek a mind of agape/Christ/light/love, etc... Applied to self for a season for all fall in time line to discern the fruits eaten from without that are well ingrained to a particular belief to find it was planted there not by God but a gate of hell for we tend to believe that which we love firstly ...People. Where in concept these are the same to you the reader & I the vessels of truth, reason with God and enclose His advice that whispers under the din of loudness of the world. Which is said to reinforce what x141 states many times ... Reason with God.
 
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