Is it a sin to own a gun?

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Kind on a different twist on a concurrent thread, asking if it is christian to own a gun, I want to know is it a sin to own a gun?

In other words, is one directly forbidden to own a weapon, such as a gun. If so, where is it overtly stated in scripture to be a sin? Or is it a presumed sin by some imposed on others, like dancing and playing cards have been imposed as sins by others in the past?
 

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Guns promote violence and violence is against God's word but, you will not find in scripture "Thou shall not own a gun."

Owning a gun is a personal choice. Jesus’ apostles were known to have had at least two swords to guard against an attack on their lives by criminals or animals. (Luke 22:38) so, you are allowed to defend yourself if you are threatened. Guns also, put food on our table in earlier times.

So, if you want to own a gun for self protection in case you or your family is ever threatened or if you want to put food on the table. I do not think that it is a sin to do so. However, if you want to own one to unjustly murder someone obviously, It's a sin. Or, if you want to kill Animals for sport, I do not think you should own a gun and I believe the unjust killing of animals to be wrong and a sin.

So basically, if you want to own a gun for just reasons, I believe you have the right to do so. But, not for unjust reasons. I personally, do not own a gun but I respect people's rights to own one.
 
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I think we might agree that it is not the gun or the knife or the axe-head that sheds innocent blood, rather it is the hands. This means the heart that controls the hands that controls the weapon. The sin is in the heart... no weapon is really required for this.

Proverbs 6:17
Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood,http://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/19-10.htm
 
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I think we might agree that it is not the gun or the knife or the axe-head that sheds innocent blood, rather it is the hands. This means the heart that controls the hands that controls the weapon. The sin is in the heart... no weapon is really required for this.

Proverbs 6:17
Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood,


Agreed 100%. Something interesting too on this subject though of gun control and preventing the shed of innocent blood. In my home country of Canada guns are severely restricted.

They do background checks on EVERYONE that wants to own a gun and basically, you can only own a gun as a Citizen for basically one reason, to hunt. The law might have changed in the case of self defense but, I haven't lived there in a while. I do know that if you killed a person in self defense when your life is in danger with ANY weapon you are not held legally responsible.

They do not recognize firing ranges (Although you're allowed to go to them) or casual shooting in your back yard to be a valid reason to own a gun. You HAVE to keep your gun in the home at all times unless you have a special permit that allows you to but these guns also have to have safety guards on them so that they cannot be used and it's only in the case of transport. The background checks include criminal records, if you have ANY history of a violent crime you are not allowed to own a gun. Well, you are but you have to pretty much prove over the course of a lot of time that you've changed. I think there's a limit to how many violent crimes you can commit too.

It also checks for mental health history. If you have a psychiatric disorder like I do, you are NOT allowed to own a gun. Under, ANY circumstances.

And if you visiting Canada, you are not allowed to bring a gun, PERIOD. It is an extremely heavy fine if you are caught attempting to bring one across the border.

They also restrict the kind of firearm you're allowed to buy. You cannot have anything really past a 9mm or a basic hunting rifle. And under no circumstances are you allowed military weapons (should be obviously).


Because of these strict and unfair laws (to an American anyway) gun violence almost NEVER happens in Canada. A majority of violent crimes committed in Canada involve knives or other less lethal weapons. Yes, guns slip through the cracks and gun crime happens. Usually with a 9MM and almost never with a military weapon. There was a massive shooting at Parliment hill in Ottawa two years back. But, it is extremely rare.

I know it sounds unfair but, if America and all of the other countries in the world had stricter gun control like Canada has, almost NONE of the violent gun crime in America would be happening. They do almost absolutely no criminal background checks here and criminals and people like me are allowed to own guns. And then Americans wonder why there is so much gun crime. And why X school got shot up and then try to place the blame away from the acutal problem. They'll blame video games, or bad parenting skills, or anything else that they can blame without conceding to the fact that if they had proper gun control and didn't give guns to the legally insane, these things wouldn't be happening.

The problem isn't the legally insane, or the criminal the problem is that you're allowing legally insane people and criminals to own guns in the first place. Also, some states allow and encourage people to own military weapons. What could you possibly need a military weapon for? EXCEPT to kill people with and except for warfare. That's kind of what they were designed for...
 
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The question wasn't about homicides, carry laws, or individual intentions. These things are arbitrary and can be applied to even the most basic item, if so desired by any set of overreaching legislations.

The question is if it is a sin to own a gun. The other thread seems to be bogged down in hypothetical situations and illogical tangents. People making their own rules about what is sinful and imposing them on others and their actions.

Biblically speaking, is it a sin? If not, the debate is over.
 
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It is not a sin to own a gun as there is no prohibition to self-defense in the Bible.
interesting .. the question in the op is -is it a sin to own a gun.. its a bit like asking is it a sin to own a pair of pliers .
but what for what purpose did you get the pair of pliers ... to help you make an explosive device to hurt some one ? well that would make your motive "sinful"
but the pliers are still just pliers .
so motive is everything .
but why do you auto equate it to "self defense " ?
 
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Guns promote violence and violence is against God's word but, you will not find in scripture "Thou shall not own a gun."

Owning a gun is a personal choice. Jesus’ apostles were known to have had at least two swords to guard against an attack on their lives by criminals or animals. (Luke 22:38) so, you are allowed to defend yourself if you are threatened. Guns also, put food on our table in earlier times.

So, if you want to own a gun for self protection in case you or your family is ever threatened or if you want to put food on the table. I do not think that it is a sin to do so. However, if you want to own one to unjustly murder someone obviously, It's a sin. Or, if you want to kill Animals for sport, I do not think you should own a gun and I believe the unjust killing of animals to be wrong and a sin.

So basically, if you want to own a gun for just reasons, I believe you have the right to do so. But, not for unjust reasons. I personally, do not own a gun but I respect people's rights to own one.
yes - again motive is everything .

though again .. i might ask - why the assumption they owned a sword for that purpose of protection againt thieves or wild animals -i cant see that verse in the scripture ..so it is merely assumption ? And if they did have a sword the entire time it would probably have been a short sword often used for many tasks . Makhaira is a term used by modern scholars to describe a type of ancient bladed weapon, generally a large knife a single cutting edge.- in other words a knife ..probably used for gutting fish ,skinning sheep and the like . it is(also an assumption -but ) highly unlikely that they would be allowed to travel about with a military style "SWORD" under roman rule of law .
 
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Kind on a different twist on a concurrent thread, asking if it is christian to own a gun, I want to know is it a sin to own a gun?

In other words, is one directly forbidden to own a weapon, such as a gun. If so, where is it overtly stated in scripture to be a sin? Or is it a presumed sin by some imposed on others, like dancing and playing cards have been imposed as sins by others in the past?
I don't think it's a sin to own anything, specifically. Well, child inappropriate content, maybe, but nothing else springs to mind.
 
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this assumption that is used to justify buying a gun for self defense is just based upon too many oddball reasonings .in regard to the deciles owning a sword and is one of two reference (i believe ) used to justify so called self defence .

if peter had a full sword and he swung it at the head of one of the arresting soldiers .. do you think it would have only slashed his ear ? i doubt it very much , such a blow would have embedded the sword at least an inch deep into the man's neck . nope , he drew a knife and struck out and cut off ..,in the greek , his ear lobe . so it makes far more sense that it was a large knife .

Bu that is not the main point
the thing is the response of the lord JESUS .. he says "the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it? where is the self defense in that ?
his trust in the hand of the father in every aspect of his life is total .
we are his deciles one who folow hi learning to become like he is .. should we not also trust god that his hand is in every aspect of our lives ?
is he not able to raise us up again at the last day ?
what is it we seek to "defend " ? our lives ? -did he not tel us that if we do so .. we risk losing it eternally .

is it not written that "without faith it is impossible to please God " -should we not the have faith in him who knows the numbers of the hairs of our hed to also know the moment of our death ..and is able to raise us up again any way ?

food for thought
 
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