I Obey, Therefore I Am Loved and Accepted.

Thursday said:

No, it's scripture:

Romans 2 6God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”7To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.

Gal 6
7Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. 9Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up.

1 Cor 6
8On the contrary, you yourselves wrong and defraud. You do this even to your brethren. 9Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Cor 7:19
Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God's commands is what counts.

Ephesians 5:5
For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person--such a person is an idolater--has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.


Gal 5:6
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any power, but only faith working through love.

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Jason0047 said:

God is very merciful. He realizes some may honestly struggle with sin. But nowhere does God condone his believers into thinking they can sin and still be saved. It doesn't work like that. Also, the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

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thatbrian said:

Understanding that I do sin and will tomorrow, is not the same thing as abusing God's grace. You have a very simplistic view of sin as it were like robbing a bank. You see it all as premeditated and completely voluntary. Most sin is somewhat involuntary or reactionary, however.

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thatbrian said:

Understanding that I do sin and will tomorrow, is not the same thing as abusing God's grace. You have a very simplistic view of sin as it were like robbing a bank. You see it all as premeditated and completely voluntary. Most sin is somewhat involuntary or reactionary, however.

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Jason0047 said:

But the Bible tells you that can stop sinning so any excuse you come up with will not work when you stand before Jesus one day trying to explain yourself. There is no verse that says you can admit to sinning in the future with you being saved. It doesn't work like that. For 1 Corinthians 10:13 refutes the idea that you cannot escape sin when you are tempted. Jesus will use this very verse with you if you are still claiming you cannot overcome sin when you are tempted.

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thatbrian said:

I am loved and accepted, therefore I obey.

I obey, therefore I am loved and accepted.

There are a few people here who are very active posting and starting threads that get the cart before the horse. In doing so, they proclaim another gospel, which is no gospel at all.

The order is the difference between life and death. Which is the correct statement?

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thatbrian said:

Reading the Bible the way you do is where your problem beings. You are missing the big picture. The story of redemption starts in Genesis and ends in Revelation, and it must be read that way.

The Bible is not an owner's manual; it's a love story, which is something you miss completely with your verse theology.

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toLiJC said:

(to) obey what?!, see (for example) the shudras in india, the lowest caste according to their spiritual/religious tradition which is dominant in everything and everywhere there, who are the majority of the indic population, how they obey everyone else (of the higher castes) there, but they are not loved, yet they are treated even worse than animals by the people of the higher castes, even the brahmins(the hindu clerics and the highest caste there) say/claim the shudras should only suffer and be exploited by the others according to the indic scriptures(the vedas) that are considered to be supposedly the most original sacred scriptures of india, and thus the hinduism, which is considered to be a true sacred religion by most people of india, dominates over everything and everyone there... - a real discrimination, caste racism and mass exploitation

what makes the krishnaism to "bear" so many villains?

Blessings

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thatbrian said:

Reading the Bible the way you do is where your problem beings. You are missing the big picture. The story of redemption starts in Genesis and ends in Revelation, and it must be read that way.

The Bible is not an owner's manual; it's a love story, which is something you miss completely with your verse theology.

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ToBeLoved said:

I do not believe that you can bring another religion and a link to another holy person in this sub forum. There is a World Religions forum that you can do that. You may want to edit your post to remove this text that is not Christian.

You can check with the moderator's or the Statement of Purpose for this subforum also.

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Steeno7 said:

So, what's your excuse for your continued sinning?

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Jason0047 said:

My sin is in the past. I also have faith that I may overcome my sin for good this very day. Also, there is a difference between stumbling on the road to recovery in overcoming sin versus one saying they will always sin in this life. Do you need me to provide you with a real world example?

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thatbrian said:

The Bible is not an owner's manual; it's a love story, which is something you miss completely with your verse theology.

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Steeno7 said:

Everyone's sins are in the past. And all Christians have faith. You set yourself apart and above others in your own mind, but you are no different than anyone else. You think your sins are only "stumbles" but others sins are somehow worse than your mere "stumbles". That is your real world example of your own sin.

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Jason0047 said:

In God's Love Story, His loving grace does not extend to people who do not want to give up their evil or sin.

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Jason0047 said:

Because I believe I will overcome my sin by the power of God. I have faith in His Word that I will have the victory. Just as the alcoholic who joins a program does so with the faith that they will one day forever be sober and free of their addiction to alcohol.

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Jason0047 said:

Because I believe I will overcome my sin by the power of God. I have faith in His Word that I will have the victory. Just as the alcoholic who joins a program does so with the faith that they will one day forever be sober and free of their addiction to alcohol.


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ToBeLoved said:

In Gods love story He gives us salvation through faith. He also gives us the mind of Christ, writes His Word on our hears and gives us, God Himself, the indwellimg Holy Spirit.

One of the things the Holy Spirit does is convicts us of sin and leads us in the path of righteousness.

Your scenario takes out the Holy Spirit and His power being God to change lives.

Your view is that we bring change and righteousness to the table to receive salvation. before salvation without the Holy Spirit. That is not the gospel.

That is a false gospel per the Bible and Paul

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