Help..... Need advice from a true deciple of Jesus!!!!

zachariahjosephturner · Feb 3, 2016

I know this is long but please read .Hey I need some help. Lately my mind has been took over by demons. Or so it seems. On top of that I have horrible intrusive thoughts of which I feel like it's me now instead of demons or cod. Iv become totally spiritually numb. Meaning the passionate 4 years I had with Jesus were every day was soaked in him seems to be hard to get back. My thoughts were of him first thing in the morning and I dozed off praying to him in bed. I was CONSUMED in him. Went to bible school. Studied the bible non stop. I ate slept end and breathed the bible. Couldn't wait to take the knowledge I learned and help somebody else with it. Those days are gone all gone…..I don't hate God or the Holy Spirit…..and even as I type the last one my mind as always wants to curse…after alitle over 2 years of this now it seems Iv developed derealization….depersonalizations……numbness in life meaning I do my daily routines but Iv lost purpose of living for God…can ocd or demons make you feel like you hate God or even the Holy Spirit when you don't and then after awhile you become so confused. Iv had every thought, feeling, and attack you could imagine. Of course most of my thoughts or 92 percent of them are centered around the Holy Spirit….again as I write the words HS I'm used to this weird feeling coming up along with the f word…….it's like I know the Holy Spirit exists. I'm Pentecostal by the way so I now he is real Iv seen his power…….it seems that now anytime I even think about talking about the HS I start feel the temptation to start thinking the most disgusting thoughts against the HS…..WHY!!?? It's like my minds been this way for so long that Now I can't get away from it it's like I'm addicted to my mind being this way…it's like if I feel any type of happy emotion my mind starts cursing….my mind was raped against my will…..I started having these blasphemous thoughts of the most disgusting nature that now after 2 years of obsessing so bad after the thoughts in my head, and having accidental slips of the mouth and stressing day and night 24/7 over the unpardonable sin, it's like now I'm addicted or at least my mind is……it's developed theses blasphemous habits of which I can't seem to ever get away from or even it seems at times I want them there for the fact It feels weird without them there. Because they have been there 24/7….Does that make since to anybody. I know in my heart I don't want this crap but it's like I don't know. But then it feels like my heart is extremely hard…..I know Iv kinda backslid to…Like I said I'm just numb now…..there's no fear anymore…..the thoughts have lost there fear and what ever else they carried with them even though there still there 24/7. I mean I got saved in early 2009 and I truly gave my life over to the Lord I've been raised in church all my life and I knew Jesus I hit rock bottom and the only place was to look up was to Jesus I spent four years truly selling my life out to him but then in early October 2013 is when they started. I abscessed so much I started developing compulsions that involve cursewords like if the devil or if not the Holy Ghost or just crazy stuff like that now my days consist of constantly fighting blasphemous thoughts I mean whenever I look at anything remotely related to Jesus my mind has an urge to curs or say the f word to it and most the time I do I can't stop myself I've been through this for so long I just can't stop if I even think about thinking about thinking about God or the Holy Spirit my curses it......it's like I expect ot and I get this icky feeling With it .at times my mind shows me blaspheming it's like I could have a thought of killing my mother or my dogs but that doesn't mean I will ever do it but the most ungodly just blasphemous thoughts have been there so long it's as if the devil tells me you didn't find it and now they're your thoughts when at the beginning I did everything and anything to get rid of them but it was as if I couldn't. Like I said I've been through this before but it was like this time it was the mother of all trials and I fought it and I did all I could I even got prophecies over me that encourage me for a little while but then I went back to thinking i had blasphemed.now I'm to the point Now like I said I Backslide and I started smoking again....When I got saved at that with this fear but it went away and for my walk with the Lord I would have faults but I would rebuke them in the name of Jesus but now it seems you're permanently in my mind and now it's so bad like I said I can't even begin to even want to think on the Lord without my mom purposely cursing and it feels like I want to do it because I've done it for so long it's a habit and I can't stop myself like a drug attic shooting up with heroin but he doesn't do it or doesn't want to do it deep down in his heart but yet he keeps doing it

1watchman · Feb 4, 2016

I am not clear if you are saved, friend. One who is saved is devoted to the Lord Jesus, who they have received into their heart and trust and follow Him ---walking and talking with Him in happy fellowship daily. I don't see that in what you have shared. It appears you are a religious person with intellectual ideas about God, but not yet knowing Him. Read John 1; John 3; John 14, and ask God to teach you. I will pray for you.

zachariahjosephturner · Feb 4, 2016

Brother I am saved I got saved in early 2009 I was raised in charge since I was a baby my grandfathers been a 60 year evangelist... I truly do love Jesus what I'm trying to say is the trawl that I went through it all started in early October 2013 I trust God but sometimes we go through things and I've been going through severe oh pression which we as Christians are not exempt from that's all I was trying to say brother but I am truly saved I do know Jesus it's not by works it's not by intellect it's bottom through the cross and what Jesus did there and I'm actually a preacher and preach sometimes but like I said I've been through it to your trial and I just need to know that I am saved and I'm not crazy and Iv not blasphemed the Holy Ghost maybe I have OCD that's how I was introduced to this site is people who have intrusive thoughts mine are so bad I don't know what to do it's like I can't get rid of them yes I do pray and I do seek
God

farout · Feb 4, 2016

zachariahjosephturner said:
I know this is long but please read .Hey I need some help. Lately my mind has been took over by demons. Or so it seems. On top of that I have horrible intrusive thoughts of which I feel like it's me now instead of demons or cod. Iv become totally spiritually numb. Meaning the passionate 4 years I had with Jesus were every day was soaked in him seems to be hard to get back. My thoughts were of him first thing in the morning and I dozed off praying to him in bed. I was CONSUMED in him. Went to bible school. Studied the bible non stop. I ate slept end and breathed the bible. Couldn't wait to take the knowledge I learned and help somebody else with it. Those days are gone all gone…..I don't hate God or the Holy Spirit…..and even as I type the last one my mind as always wants to curse…after alitle over 2 years of this now it seems Iv developed derealization….depersonalizations……numbness in life meaning I do my daily routines but Iv lost purpose of living for God…can ocd or demons make you feel like you hate God or even the Holy Spirit when you don't and then after awhile you become so confused. Iv had every thought, feeling, and attack you could imagine. Of course most of my thoughts or 92 percent of them are centered around the Holy Spirit….again as I write the words HS I'm used to this weird feeling coming up along with the f word…….it's like I know the Holy Spirit exists. I'm Pentecostal by the way so I now he is real Iv seen his power…….it seems that now anytime I even think about talking about the HS I start feel the temptation to start thinking the most disgusting thoughts against the HS…..WHY!!?? It's like my minds been this way for so long that Now I can't get away from it it's like I'm addicted to my mind being this way…it's like if I feel any type of happy emotion my mind starts cursing….my mind was raped against my will…..I started having these blasphemous thoughts of the most disgusting nature that now after 2 years of obsessing so bad after the thoughts in my head, and having accidental slips of the mouth and stressing day and night 24/7 over the unpardonable sin, it's like now I'm addicted or at least my mind is……it's developed theses blasphemous habits of which I can't seem to ever get away from or even it seems at times I want them there for the fact It feels weird without them there. Because they have been there 24/7….Does that make since to anybody. I know in my heart I don't want this crap but it's like I don't know. But then it feels like my heart is extremely hard…..I know Iv kinda backslid to…Like I said I'm just numb now…..there's no fear anymore…..the thoughts have lost there fear and what ever else they carried with them even though there still there 24/7. I mean I got saved in early 2009 and I truly gave my life over to the Lord I've been raised in church all my life and I knew Jesus I hit rock bottom and the only place was to look up was to Jesus I spent four years truly selling my life out to him but then in early October 2013 is when they started. I abscessed so much I started developing compulsions that involve cursewords like if the devil or if not the Holy Ghost or just crazy stuff like that now my days consist of constantly fighting blasphemous thoughts I mean whenever I look at anything remotely related to Jesus my mind has an urge to curs or say the f word to it and most the time I do I can't stop myself I've been through this for so long I just can't stop if I even think about thinking about thinking about God or the Holy Spirit my curses it......it's like I expect ot and I get this icky feeling With it .at times my mind shows me blaspheming it's like I could have a thought of killing my mother or my dogs but that doesn't mean I will ever do it but the most ungodly just blasphemous thoughts have been there so long it's as if the devil tells me you didn't find it and now they're your thoughts when at the beginning I did everything and anything to get rid of them but it was as if I couldn't. Like I said I've been through this before but it was like this time it was the mother of all trials and I fought it and I did all I could I even got prophecies over me that encourage me for a little while but then I went back to thinking i had blasphemed.now I'm to the point Now like I said I Backslide and I started smoking again....When I got saved at that with this fear but it went away and for my walk with the Lord I would have faults but I would rebuke them in the name of Jesus but now it seems you're permanently in my mind and now it's so bad like I said I can't even begin to even want to think on the Lord without my mom purposely cursing and it feels like I want to do it because I've done it for so long it's a habit and I can't stop myself like a drug attic shooting up with heroin but he doesn't do it or doesn't want to do it deep down in his heart but yet he keeps doing it

Watchman, I can't imagine how you must feel. God has not left you or anything like that. My wife and I had a counseling center several years ago, so I think I can give you some honest up front advice. But first, have you recently stopped or started any medication's? You sound like either some medication is not working properly or you need some medication. Only your doctor can help with that. I have heard exactly the very same things you describe by people with similar or nearly the same issues. Please contact your doctor ASAP. I honestly will be doing much better, so do not just Waite, do it ASAP. God bless you watchman.

zachariahjosephturner · Feb 4, 2016

I will admit that I got kinda spiritually lazy and exsasted from loosing sleep and fighting so much.....I fought so hard in the beginning and after awhile began to get weary and severely depressed... I didn't pray and read as much as I should and that's when the enemy took opportunity I've just learned a lesson here that not trusting God is a very bad thing but we as Christians sometimes fall and trust in our Lord I just need to get back on top again God is a God of second chances I've just had so many thoughts in my mind so her Renda's so ungodly I dare not mention them here and I just it seems I've lost God and I've become spiritually now it seems like easy which I hate that it happened

zachariahjosephturner · Feb 4, 2016

I appreciate your help brother when I got saved it was my moms enterprise or I mean it was like night and day difference I love Jesus I slept and breeze Jesus I even got my so she's degree in Bible study but when I got saved I dealt with the fear of blasphemy the Holy Ghost as I had the F word come in my mind it scared me but icing got over it but since the end that's always been kind of a thing that would come against me the devil knew it worked but I trust God I love him I seen him do things in my life that made my jaw dropped to the floor LOL but I truly need help I don't know what to do it's like My mom is a true hard-core woman of God praise the Lord she has tried to help me but it's locked and I can't seem to find comfort every time I read price or even think of God my mind starts want to cuss or even I have this feeling of hatred towards God that comes over me and it scares me and puts me in such depression I would think that if I truly hated God and didn't want him I would be happy I need Jesus

zachariahjosephturner · Feb 4, 2016

There's a Christian therapist that I know of that seems really good I've heard good reviews about her and was referred by a good friend of mine but I just don't have the funds right now but I really need to see somebody I know Jesus is the only answer but the Bible does say in Psalms 1 to seek godly counsel I just want my Jesus back I'm so lost I know he's real I'm not an atheist you know I just need him I need to feel his presence once again and be happy like I used two times where I would be so happy it was as if I would almost pass out from the joy and the piece that he would give me .....but like I said I've had a few slips of the tongue and it wasn't a purposeful cursing the Holy Spirit I just need to know that I'm not crazy because now that is it seems like as John Bunyan said I'm tempted to speak these things out loud and it feels as if I want to do them I don't know if it's my flash or I've been through this for so long I just hate it I don't know what to do these feelings are so deceiving feelings of hate I don't want daughter I don't want you Holy Spirit and I know that's not my true emotions it's just very hard but I want God to use us as

farout · Feb 4, 2016

zachariahjosephturner said:
There's a Christian therapist that I know of that seems really good I've heard good reviews about her and was referred by a good friend of mine but I just don't have the funds right now but I really need to see somebody I know Jesus is the only answer but the Bible does say in Psalms 1 to seek godly counsel I just want my Jesus back I'm so lost I know he's real I'm not an atheist you know I just need him I need to feel his presence once again and be happy like I used two times where I would be so happy it was as if I would almost pass out from the joy and the piece that he would give me .....but like I said I've had a few slips of the tongue and it wasn't a purposeful cursing the Holy Spirit I just need to know that I'm not crazy because now that is it seems like as John Bunyan said I'm tempted to speak these things out loud and it feels as if I want to do them I don't know if it's my flash or I've been through this for so long I just hate it I don't know what to do these feelings are so deceiving feelings of hate I don't want daughter I don't want you Holy Spirit and I know that's not my true emotions it's just very hard but I want God to use us as

I do honestly believe you need to follow through as I suggested before. I am praying for you, have faith step out to Christ and He is with you. He will never leave or forsake you, Matthew 28:20

paul1149 · Feb 4, 2016

"When our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart and knows all things".

I pray the peace of God which passes understanding. God knows your heart and is far greater than any intrusive thoughts you may have. The devil gets us in such a bind that our fears begin to drive the whole thing, making it so much worse. We begin to focus on the problem rather than on the solution - our acceptance in the Beloved through unmerited favor. Abide in His peace and love, and don't believe the devil's lies, no matter how convincing they seem at the moment.

1watchman · Feb 5, 2016

zachariahjosephturner said:
There's a Christian therapist that I know of that seems really good I've heard good reviews about her and was referred by a good friend of mine but I just don't have the funds right now but I really need to see somebody I know Jesus is the only answer but the Bible does say in Psalms 1 to seek godly counsel I just want my Jesus back I'm so lost I know he's real I'm not an atheist you know I just need him I need to feel his presence once again and be happy like I used two times where I would be so happy it was as if I would almost pass out from the joy and the piece that he would give me .....but like I said I've had a few slips of the tongue and it wasn't a purposeful cursing the Holy Spirit I just need to know that I'm not crazy because now that is it seems like as John Bunyan said I'm tempted to speak these things out loud and it feels as if I want to do them I don't know if it's my flash or I've been through this for so long I just hate it I don't know what to do these feelings are so deceiving feelings of hate I don't want daughter I don't want you Holy Spirit and I know that's not my true emotions it's just very hard but I want God to use us as

It seems like your mind is racing and you are somewhat out of control, friend, and I am glad you can look to the Lord and trust He will guide you. Let me suggest you see a physician to check to see if there is something causing this stressful condition. There are a number of things that can mess up one's concentration and emotions, which doesn't mean it is a mental disorder, but physiological. I would not put if off if I were you.

zachariahjosephturner · Feb 5, 2016

I just want to thank you guys for aknowledging my posting on here and taking concern of it I hope God blesses each and everyone of y'all tremendously I'm going to try to go see a therapist and see if that would help but I know God is my main source he is my healer he paid for my healing amen!!! Isaiah 53:5

aiki · Feb 6, 2016

I read your posts and thought back to many years ago when I was in my early twenties and going through struggles with anxiety and OCD. Not fun. God didn't leave me to struggle endlessly alone, though. He brought me out of my battle with anxiety and obsessive-compulsive thinking. He can do the same for you.

So, how did God bring me out of my OCD and anxiety?

1.) I had to find out who I am as a child of God.
2.) I had to learn to stand on the truth of who I am in Christ.
3.) I had to develop spiritual disciplines - prayer and Bible study in particular.
4.) I had to learn how to wage spiritual warfare.
5.) I had to learn to "let go and let God." I had to surrender, yield, submit myself to God's will and way in my life.
6.) I had to forsake my sin. I had made many compromises with the World, my flesh and the devil and this had to be confessed and repented of.

There is no quick fix for what you're dealing with. The World will hook you up with medication and a therapist who thinks he knows better than God how to solve your problems. But I have met quite a number of people over the years for whom neither drugs nor therapy have helped at all. And they are worse off now than they ever were! God made you and He knows perfectly well how to "fix" you. Are you willing to walk with Him toward healing and spiritual maturity?

Selah.

zachariahjosephturner · Feb 6, 2016

Yeah like I said you know I know spiritual warfare and all that stuff you know I've studied the Bible extensively it's just this battle came out of nowhere and I think it's kind a like a joke trial because I was at the point my life where I truly want to God more than anything I was willing to starve just to stay in my room and pray and read constantly and I think God was really testing my faith allowing the enemy to come at me with these black misspelled that I may draw closer to him and trust him but in the active that I started obsessing and what not and I think it just let the OCD and all this crazy stuff but yeah I appreciate your advice that's what I need to do it's just hard trying to do it when every step you take your minds cursing God and the Holy Spirit but like you said I have to know who I am in Christ and I should know that because God is called me to preach I've had opportunities to preach I've studied the word so now I just have to put it into practice sometimes I believe when we go through a trawl it's hard to it's hard to really lean on the word it times

farout · Feb 7, 2016

zachariahjosephturner said:
Yeah like I said you know I know spiritual warfare and all that stuff you know I've studied the Bible extensively it's just this battle came out of nowhere and I think it's kind a like a joke trial because I was at the point my life where I truly want to God more than anything I was willing to starve just to stay in my room and pray and read constantly and I think God was really testing my faith allowing the enemy to come at me with these black misspelled that I may draw closer to him and trust him but in the active that I started obsessing and what not and I think it just let the OCD and all this crazy stuff but yeah I appreciate your advice that's what I need to do it's just hard trying to do it when every step you take your minds cursing God and the Holy Spirit but like you said I have to know who I am in Christ and I should know that because God is called me to preach I've had opportunities to preach I've studied the word so now I just have to put it into practice sometimes I believe when we go through a trawl it's hard to it's hard to really lean on the word it times

Dear friend in Christ, I hear the real frustration and even anger you are in. I honestly believe there is a medical component to this as well. I encourage you to have a blood panel work up done, by the person you see for your OCD. In my opinion this may well be a large part of your issues. You do not have to continuing enduring all this "crazy stuff", I don't believe you really want to curse God or anything like that. You may never have any peace of mind unless you do go to the OCD doctor. Please reconsider and make an appointment ASP.

graceandpeace · Feb 9, 2016

We can't give medical advice on the forums, but I think you should consider seeking professional help, for your own physical & mental well-being.

Personally, I don't think the Pentecostal movement is safe for anyone's spiritual well-being, but it might be best to deal with one need at a time.

Good luck.

FutureAndAHope · Mar 13, 2016

zachariahjosephturner said:
I know this is long but please read .Hey I need some help. Lately my mind has been took over by demons. Or so it seems. On top of that I have horrible intrusive thoughts of which I feel like it's me now instead of demons or cod. Iv become totally spiritually numb. Meaning the passionate 4 years I had with Jesus were every day was soaked in him seems to be hard to get back. My thoughts were of him first thing in the morning and I dozed off praying to him in bed. I was CONSUMED in him. Went to bible school. Studied the bible non stop. I ate slept end and breathed the bible. Couldn't wait to take the knowledge I learned and help somebody else with it. Those days are gone all gone…..I don't hate God or the Holy Spirit…..and even as I type the last one my mind as always wants to curse…after alitle over 2 years of this now it seems Iv developed derealization….depersonalizations……numbness in life meaning I do my daily routines but Iv lost purpose of living for God…can ocd or demons make you feel like you hate God or even the Holy Spirit when you don't and then after awhile you become so confused. Iv had every thought, feeling, and attack you could imagine. Of course most of my thoughts or 92 percent of them are centered around the Holy Spirit….again as I write the words HS I'm used to this weird feeling coming up along with the f word…….it's like I know the Holy Spirit exists. I'm Pentecostal by the way so I now he is real Iv seen his power…….it seems that now anytime I even think about talking about the HS I start feel the temptation to start thinking the most disgusting thoughts against the HS…..WHY!!?? It's like my minds been this way for so long that Now I can't get away from it it's like I'm addicted to my mind being this way…it's like if I feel any type of happy emotion my mind starts cursing….my mind was raped against my will…..I started having these blasphemous thoughts of the most disgusting nature that now after 2 years of obsessing so bad after the thoughts in my head, and having accidental slips of the mouth and stressing day and night 24/7 over the unpardonable sin, it's like now I'm addicted or at least my mind is……it's developed theses blasphemous habits of which I can't seem to ever get away from or even it seems at times I want them there for the fact It feels weird without them there. Because they have been there 24/7….Does that make since to anybody. I know in my heart I don't want this crap but it's like I don't know. But then it feels like my heart is extremely hard…..I know Iv kinda backslid to…Like I said I'm just numb now…..there's no fear anymore…..the thoughts have lost there fear and what ever else they carried with them even though there still there 24/7. I mean I got saved in early 2009 and I truly gave my life over to the Lord I've been raised in church all my life and I knew Jesus I hit rock bottom and the only place was to look up was to Jesus I spent four years truly selling my life out to him but then in early October 2013 is when they started. I abscessed so much I started developing compulsions that involve cursewords like if the devil or if not the Holy Ghost or just crazy stuff like that now my days consist of constantly fighting blasphemous thoughts I mean whenever I look at anything remotely related to Jesus my mind has an urge to curs or say the f word to it and most the time I do I can't stop myself I've been through this for so long I just can't stop if I even think about thinking about thinking about God or the Holy Spirit my curses it......it's like I expect ot and I get this icky feeling With it .at times my mind shows me blaspheming it's like I could have a thought of killing my mother or my dogs but that doesn't mean I will ever do it but the most ungodly just blasphemous thoughts have been there so long it's as if the devil tells me you didn't find it and now they're your thoughts when at the beginning I did everything and anything to get rid of them but it was as if I couldn't. Like I said I've been through this before but it was like this time it was the mother of all trials and I fought it and I did all I could I even got prophecies over me that encourage me for a little while but then I went back to thinking i had blasphemed.now I'm to the point Now like I said I Backslide and I started smoking again....When I got saved at that with this fear but it went away and for my walk with the Lord I would have faults but I would rebuke them in the name of Jesus but now it seems you're permanently in my mind and now it's so bad like I said I can't even begin to even want to think on the Lord without my mom purposely cursing and it feels like I want to do it because I've done it for so long it's a habit and I can't stop myself like a drug attic shooting up with heroin but he doesn't do it or doesn't want to do it deep down in his heart but yet he keeps doing it

Hi,

You are certainly a Christian. I will try to explain what is happening.

As you would be aware there is a verse in the bible that says:

Mat 12:31-32 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Now what is happening to you is Satan wants you to believe you are blaspheming the Holy Spirit, let me assure you you are not. He is injecting blasphemous thought into your mind, and putting pressure on you so that in desperation you will get angry with God, and speak some obscenity or blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Now even if you were to do that it would not be an unpardonable sin. God would forgive you. But Satan knows many people misunderstand the above scripture and think that speaking a word against the Holy Spirit is damnable, when it is not. The devil wants you to think you have committed an unpardonable sin, why? So you "have to walk away from God", but let me assure you, God is pleased with you not displeased.

The following link explain this situation in more detail:

http://www.futureandahope.net/unforgivable_sin.php

zachariahjosephturner · Mar 16, 2016

Hey thanks brother it's just been really hard man it seems like every time I even think about the Holy Spirit or even look at him the F word comes in my mind it's almost as if it's a habit so every time I do think about him the F word comes and along with 1000 other things is just crazy and it feels so much more real her now because I've had it for so long now it feels as if it's me out of the habit

zachariahjosephturner · Mar 16, 2016

I'm really seeking God right now but it seems I don't feel his presence I know we walk by faith not by sight....... because the battle just got so hard it was like I almost gave up but I said God I'm not happy I want you you're all I want so I'm really praying and trying to seek God but it's so hard when everything you do related to God cusses or speak evil of it......that is my mind anyways......it's just hard it's like my mind is possessed......it's like it's been there so long that my flesh wants it there but by spirit hates it

AGTG · Mar 21, 2016

What you have described sounds like you've come under some ministries and leaders that use witchcraft to control and harass those under them.

My suggestion is to cut all ties with them, throw out their books, CDs, DVDs, unsubscribe from their mailing lists, unlike their facebook feeds, etc, etc, etc.

Then, fast and pray to get your head clear from their influence. Steep yourself in the scriptures. God will give you clarity and direction, the Holy Spirit will set you free. You may need to confess and repent of some things related to the exaltation of man or idolatry as ministries that abuse their authority often place themselves in a position as God in your life, and those who submit are essentially agreeing with them in this wicked thing.

Then, be careful what ministries you submit yourself to.

Right now, there is a massive deception taking place through a network of very wicked ministries born out of the false revivals of the 1990's (ihop, bethel, morningstar, fire school of ministry, etc, etc...)

AGTG · Mar 21, 2016

Cutting all connections to ministries that abuse their authority is crucial because as long as you have submitted to them and their teachings in the slightest (like having one of their books on your shelf, listening to their praise and worship teams, having their facebook feed come to you daily) you are "submitting" to their authority.

Then, they can speak over, into, and about you in the spiritual realms in order to control the way you think and feel. It's basically mind control.

Moreover, 1 Timothy 4:1-5 clearly states that these hypocritical, insincere "ministers" are operating under the influence of seducing spirits which bring forth demon doctrines. And if they are under the influence of demons, and you submit to their ministries, you then come under the influence of demons.

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