How to convince a mad girl to go to a psychiatrist

thehehe · Dec 1, 2015

I know this is a strange thread!

I have in my class a girl who is totally mad. At first we all thought she was the most stupid creature of the Earth and a lot of us made fun of her but now we start to really worry: she's not just stupid, there is something else. She is completely mad.
She always touching everyone, honestly I am more and more disgusted as this is always very ambiguous with her. She considers one of my friends as her possession, she imitates her in any point even by stealing her clothes (always in a very ambiguous way). My friend begins to be a little bit scared. This is not finished: she is changing a lot currently and her psychiologic health gets worse and worse. She speaks with a new vocabulary that is quite... unpleasant. Well, this is a euphemism. I don't know, I think she wants to speak like a fashion girl, but this is really ridiculous and insulting. She also tries to get more and more attention by dressing as a.. well you know what I mean. She tries to sexually entice a lot of people, including my favorite teacher and this is rather strange. Thanks God it doesn't work at all. I had the confirmation of her madness when I had to correct a short story this girl wrote for a project against illiteracy with the class: I never red such a horrible thing. Mostly because it was the writing of an insane girl. It was only mutilation, suicide attempts, torture without any reason, horrible deaths, etc etc. I was rather surprised. The whole class red the short story and everybody said the same thing (even my literature teacher): she's mad and she REALLY should go to a psychologist. I totally agree with that. I know she had a difficult middle school, that the whole high school considers her the most stupid girl on Earth, moreover, she isn't pretty at all but that doesn't explain everything. Yet she is very very easily offended and doesn't react nicely at the slightest remark. She screams, insults violently, tries to hurt and then she runs away. But we really need to do something because she is unbearable and almost destructive. Have you an idea?

MaxR1996 · Dec 1, 2015

"Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him." - 1 John 3:15

Why do have hate in your heart? insulting her, calling her stupid ?

"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?" - Matthew 7:16

What is your fruit ?

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.…" - Galatians 5:22

Is that the fruit your bearing ?

"Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." - Matthew 7:5

Psychiatry goes against Christianity. It is sorcery.

"33 Then went the devils out of the man, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the lake, and were choked.
34 When they that fed them saw what was done, they fled, and went and told it in the city and in the country.
35 Then they went out to see what was done; and came to Jesus, and found the man, out of whom the devils were departed, sitting at the feet of Jesus, clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.
36 They also which saw it told them by what means he that was possessed of the devils was healed." - Matthew 8:33-36

Only Jesus has the power to cast out demons

thehehe · Dec 1, 2015

I don't insult her or anything. To be sincere I can't follow the point? Saying she is mad is insulting her?! This is just that I can't bear more, my friend is close to the panic attack and she can't support more.

Yet I'm not asking for a debate around psychiatry so I won't answer about it even if I totally disagree (I never heard such a thing..) I'm just asking for help because, well, she needs it and she will do such regrettable things which could destroy more than one person if it continues. I already pray for her.

MaxR1996 · Dec 1, 2015

thehehe said:
I don't insult her or anything. To be sincere I can't follow the point? Saying she is mad is insulting her?! This is just that I can't bear more, my friend is close to the panic attack and she can't support more.

Yet I'm not asking for a debate around psychiatry so I won't answer about it even if I totally disagree (I never heard such a thing..) I'm just asking for help because, well, she needs it and she will do such regrettable things which could destroy more than one person if it continues. I already pray for her.

You are insulting her on here.

I don't get what you're asking.

Either you leave the class or she leaves. I don't believe you can force her out of the class, so if it really bothers you you can leave right?

I'm not picking any sides. What else can you do besides leave ?

thehehe · Dec 1, 2015

MaxR1996 said:
You are insulting her on here.

I don't get what you're asking.

Either you leave the class or she leaves. I don't believe you can force her out of the class, so if it really bothers you you can leave right?

I'm not picking any sides. What else can you do besides leave ?

And you really didn't get the point of my message. I think you didn't understand that all I wanted is to HELP her, as she REALLY needs it. I'm always really friendly with her but you shall excuse me, but when an another girl touches your breast and your legs all the time this is unbearable. I don't want her out of the class or ANYTHING, I'm just trying like the whole class to do something because she is very close to the suicide attempts. I ask for help because I want to know what I can do, as this si getting worse and worse and as her mental health is getting worrying.

MaxR1996 · Dec 1, 2015

thehehe said:
And you really didn't get the point of my message. I think you didn't understand that all I wanted is to HELP her, as she REALLY needs it. I'm always really friendly with her but you shall excuse me, but when an another girl touches your breast and your legs all the time this is unbearable. I don't want her out of the class or ANYTHING, I'm just trying like the whole class to do something because she is very close to the suicide attempts. I ask for help because I want to know what I can do, as this si getting worse and worse and as her mental health is getting worrying.

I find it hard to believe you want to help her when insulting her, but I'll take your word for it.

Why not invite her to church ?

thehehe · Dec 1, 2015

MaxR1996 said:
I find it hard to believe you want to help her when insulting her, but I'll take your word for it.

Why not invite her to church ?

I tell what I think, even if this is not always kind (I'm not perfect I'm afraid but I didn't want to insult her, just to say what I think rather than being hypocritical. And mostly to describe the situation in the most realistic way even if this is quite far from the reality.

I tried, didn't really work.. She has a lot of prejudices on the different religions. Even if I think that to know God's love for her could help a lot, as she doesn't have any self-confidence (this is, in fact, the real problem of the story and the reason why she is doing everything, as she probably wants to be remarked to give her a little confidence)

thehehe · Dec 1, 2015

Oh well I think I made a mistake of translation with the word "mad", I meant something like "crazy" but in a sanital way (not pejoratively if you see what I wanted to say)

MaxR1996 · Dec 1, 2015

thehehe said:
I tell what I think, even if this is not always kind (I'm not perfect I'm afraid but I didn't want to insult her, just to say what I think rather than being hypocritical. And mostly to describe the situation in the most realistic way even if this is quite far from the reality.

I tried, didn't really work.. She has a lot of prejudices on the different religions. Even if I think that to know God's love for her could help a lot, as she doesn't have any self-confidence (this is, in fact, the real problem of the story and the reason why she is doing everything, as she probably wants to be remarked to give her a little confidence)

Who told you self confidence is a good thing?

"And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted." - Matthew 23:12

"But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;" - Philippians 2:7-10

thehehe · Dec 1, 2015

MaxR1996 said:
Who told you self confidence is a good thing?

"And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted." - Matthew 23:12

"But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;" - Philippians 2:7-10

Perhaps because there is a huge difference between self-confidence and humility. Someone humble decides to be a little person (and thanks to that she becomes a great one).Someone without any self-confidence doesn't believe he has any value to anyone but still wants to be someone from living by proxy (without any personal fulfillment). This is absolutely not the same thing and the second one is harmful and can lead to suicide attempts and a missed life. So please don't try to interpret my posts, as I already said it I just ASK FOR HELP, not for a judgement.

MaxR1996 · Dec 1, 2015

thehehe said:
Perhaps because there is a huge difference between self-confidence and humility. Someone humble decides to be a little person (and thanks to that she becomes a great one).Someone without any self-confidence doesn't believe he has any value to anyone but still wants to be someone from living by proxy (without any personal fulfillment). This is absolutely not the same thing and the second one is harmful and can lead to suicide attempts and a missed life. So please don't try to interpret my posts, as I already said it I just ASK FOR HELP, not for a judgement.

I understand.

Only God can help this girl. Praying for her works. But be genuine when you pray. Don't be condescending, judgmental, or hateful, genuinely want her to be transformed. I'm not accusing you of doing these, but when praying make sure its genuine.

Thrash Metalhead · Dec 2, 2015

I think she should go to one of those mental hospitals or somewhere where they know how to treat illnesses like those. They might know how to deal with her like they did with me.

As for convincing her to go, maybe talk to her parents about it and tell them what's up. You can gather a few people including the teacher and have a discussion about her strange behavior. From reading your post, I believe she needs urgent help and just going to a psychologist won't help.

This is all I have, sorry if it may not be the best.

thehehe · Dec 2, 2015

Thrash Metalhead said:
I think she should go to one of those mental hospitals or somewhere where they know how to treat illnesses like those. They might know how to deal with her like they did with me.

As for convincing her to go, maybe talk to her parents about it and tell them what's up. You can gather a few people including the teacher and have a discussion about her strange behavior. From reading your post, I believe she needs urgent help and just going to a psychologist won't help.

This is all I have, sorry if it may not be the best.

Your advice was quite good, even if i don't really know how to introduce the question with her parents. I know them a bit and it won't be easy.. My only great fear is to make things worse with the girl by acting in her back. I'm afraid it could create problems with her parents and she really has no other person she can count on. But you're right, she needs help and quickly. I think a psychologist would be a good beginning: easier to accept for her parents, and as this is his job he could decide if she needs something more. But I take note of what you said. Thank you!

Sayo · Dec 2, 2015

Aaah You command that demon in her to get out In Jesus Name . I get what you mean and tbh, I don't see any other thing to do . This could be a way for you to show your class mates the power in the name of Jesus . Pray to God about her and then ask the demon to leave her in the mighty name of Jesus! Blast some tongues on her head and she will be made whole! Praise God !!!

Thrash Metalhead · Dec 2, 2015

thehehe said:
Your advice was quite good, even if i don't really know how to introduce the question with her parents. I know them a bit and it won't be easy.. My only great fear is to make things worse with the girl by acting in her back. I'm afraid it could create problems with her parents and she really has no other person she can count on. But you're right, she needs help and quickly. I think a psychologist would be a good beginning: easier to accept for her parents, and as this is his job he could decide if she needs something more. But I take note of what you said. Thank you!

Your welcome! I'm glad to help.

The Portuguese Baptist · Dec 3, 2015

MaxR1996 said:
[...] Psychiatry goes against Christianity. It is sorcery.

"33 Then went the devils out of the man, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the lake, and were choked.
34 When they that fed them saw what was done, they fled, and went and told it in the city and in the country.
35 Then they went out to see what was done; and came to Jesus, and found the man, out of whom the devils were departed, sitting at the feet of Jesus, clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.
36 They also which saw it told them by what means he that was possessed of the devils was healed." - Matthew 8:33-36

Only Jesus has the power to cast out demons

What?! Don't be ridiculous! Psychiatry has nothing to do with casting out demons! It is a Science which is intended to help people with mental problems — and most psychiatrists in the developed world probably don't even believe in any sort of spirituality, anyway, like most people, actually.

MaxR1996 · Dec 3, 2015

The Portuguese Baptist said:
What?! Don't be ridiculous! Psychiatry has nothing to do with casting out demons! It is a Science which is intended to help people with mental problems — and most psychiatrists in the developed world probably don't even believe in any sort of spirituality, anyway, like most people, actually.

Its sorcery, those mental health drugs anti-depressants, anti-psychotics, etc are very harmful, I've seen it mess up my dad and good friend.

thehehe · Dec 3, 2015

The Portuguese Baptist said:
What?! Don't be ridiculous! Psychiatry has nothing to do with casting out demons! It is a Science which is intended to help people with mental problems — and most psychiatrists in the developed world probably don't even believe in any sort of spirituality, anyway, like most people, actually.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I never heard such a thing before, and I actually didn't understand such an argument.

The Portuguese Baptist · Dec 3, 2015

thehehe said:
I know this is a strange thread!

I have in my class a girl who is totally mad. At first we all thought she was the most stupid creature of the Earth and a lot of us made fun of her but now we start to really worry: she's not just stupid, there is something else. She is completely mad.
She always touching everyone, honestly I am more and more disgusted as this is always very ambiguous with her. She considers one of my friends as her possession, she imitates her in any point even by stealing her clothes (always in a very ambiguous way). My friend begins to be a little bit scared. This is not finished: she is changing a lot currently and her psychiologic health gets worse and worse. She speaks with a new vocabulary that is quite... unpleasant. Well, this is a euphemism. I don't know, I think she wants to speak like a fashion girl, but this is really ridiculous and insulting. She also tries to get more and more attention by dressing as a.. well you know what I mean. She tries to sexually entice a lot of people, including my favorite teacher and this is rather strange. Thanks God it doesn't work at all. I had the confirmation of her madness when I had to correct a short story this girl wrote for a project against illiteracy with the class: I never red such a horrible thing. Mostly because it was the writing of an insane girl. It was only mutilation, suicide attempts, torture without any reason, horrible deaths, etc etc. I was rather surprised. The whole class red the short story and everybody said the same thing (even my literature teacher): she's mad and she REALLY should go to a psychologist. I totally agree with that. I know she had a difficult middle school, that the whole high school considers her the most stupid girl on Earth, moreover, she isn't pretty at all but that doesn't explain everything. Yet she is very very easily offended and doesn't react nicely at the slightest remark. She screams, insults violently, tries to hurt and then she runs away. But we really need to do something because she is unbearable and almost destructive. Have you an idea?

As I was reading your thread, I thought you should talk to her; however, when I got to the part where you say she is ‘easily offended’ and ‘destructive’, I changed my mind. If you think it is unwise to talk to her, talk to her parents. Surely, they will understand. Perhaps they are not aware of all the nonsensical things she does.

thehehe said:
Oh well I think I made a mistake of translation with the word "mad", I meant something like "crazy" but in a sanital way (not pejoratively if you see what I wanted to say)

That is no error. The word ‘mad’ can really mean ‘crazy’ (and that it what I thought of), and it is not pejorative. Actually, this word can have a variety of different meanings, depending on the context. See: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/mad for more information.

MaxR1996 · Dec 3, 2015

thehehe said:
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I never heard such a thing before, and I actually didn't understand such an argument.

"For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?" - Matthew 5:46

http://www.bible.ca/psychiatry/psychiatry-atheistic-anti-christian.htm

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