God's Judgement On Sodom and Gommorah

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Genesis Chapter 19


In Genesis chapter 19, God brought very severe judgement on Sodom and Gomorrah, because people living in these areas were committing wicked acts. When 2 angels from God that were male, went to Sodom, to Lot (Abraham's nephew) home, the men in the city, both small and great, wanted to have sex with the angels. Small and great from my understanding is from the very young to the very old, men of all ages, men of different generations, from the oldest to the youngest. So this behavior was going on for a while, and it became the norm, where even the youngest also was brought up to support and engage in homosexuality, and also rape.


It became so bad that the men wanted to beat down the door to come in on the angels in Lot's home, and as a result the angels of God had to blind them. Consumed with homosexuality, even after blindness, they still wanted the men (angels). Imagine visiting someone, and the people in that community, wanted to have sex with you, and they would not take no for an answer? What would you do? What would be your opinion about these people? In biblical times especially, when a stranger visited persons, they were supposed to be cared for and treated properly. Because once a stranger comes in your home, you were responsible for their personal safety. Today it is also the same thing, if you have guests in our home, you do everything to ensure that they are safe and comfortable, you feel responsible for your guests personal safety.


In verse 17, the angels of God said to Lot, "...Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed." The same thing the angels said to Lot, is the exact same thing that God is saying today to Christians and to others who will listen, and obey what he is saying. God himself is bringing judgement on nations including America. When a nation supports and promotes homosexuality, God's judgement is not far off. If you or a family member, live in an area or state that supports homosexuality, where homosexuality is rampant, you have to inquire of God if you should stay where you are or if you should leave. The angels of God told Lot, that if he wanted to survive he had to leave (with his family), and he gave Lot specific instructions not to look back, but go to a mountain for safety. Lot's son in-laws did not take what he said seriously, and they were also consumed by fire and brimstone from God. Before Lot came to Sodom and Gomorrah, from the outside everything seemed to be looking good and prospering. The areas of Sodom and Gomorrah were green, looking well watered, and everything on the outside seemed to look good, but in reality it was not so. So appearances can be very deceiving. A nation that supports homosexuality, may seem to be prospering and doing well, and as a result people living in and outside the country, may believe that nothing can happen to them, because they have developed a false sense of security.


Lot was afraid though to go to the mountain for safety, and instead begged the angels to allow him to go to a city near the mountains, the angels gave him permission to do so. God understands that we are humans, and we face fear and anxiety, and he is willing to meet us where were are. In verse 21 the angels said..."See, I have accepted thee concerning this thing also, that I will not overthrow this city, for the which thou hast spoken. [22] Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do any thing till thou be come thither.
 

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God was willing to spare the whole city for five righteous citizens.

They could only find 1 -- Lot himself. (obviously his wife and children were not counted)

Today's world is a bit different. Yes, God will judge the world when the cup of iniquity is full, however not once in the Bible has God ever killed a righteous man with "collateral damage".

I know there's a growing dissent against the belief of the Rapture, but yet it is spelled out rather plainly by Paul and John both that God will remove us from the world before the Tribulation starts. He won't rain down meteors, hail, plagues, etc on those who are righteous.

We worship a powerful, mighty but also loving and longsuffering God. He is holy and righteous, and most of all, loving. However, His love will only go so far, and eventually there will be the day He has to put His holy foot down and say "ENOUGH." and put a stop to the wickedness that is everywhere in these days.

I have faith in God and His Son, in that no matter what happens... even if I'm wrong about the Rapture, and I end up dying in some hailstorm or something, that I am still Saved and He will keep His promises that regardless of what happens to my physical, fleshly body, that my Spirit is still Saved by His Grace as long as I continue to rely on Jesus and His Sacrifice for my salvation, and as long as I continue to repent for my sins.
 
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Think we can learn from Lot also. At first, Lot "pitched his tent toward Sodom" (Gen 13:12) then we find he moved into Sodom. He gets kidnapped along with all the other residents (Gen 14:12) when 9 kings fought each other. But when he was rescued, he didn't seem to reconsider his decision to live there. Additionally, he was probably a celebrity now because his Uncle Abram rescued everyone. Ok, their opinion of him isn't stated, but he accepted what was going on in Sodom and sat at the city gate (19:1). If he had stated an opposing view, he probably wouldn't have been sitting at the gate, the hub of the city's activities. Hospitality is viewed more intimately in the Middle East. But when the confrontation between the local residents and the angels occurred, we see how compromising he had become with his offer of two of his daughters.

After the angels told him about the destruction that would take place, he went to warn his married daughters and their husbands. They could have been saved from the destruction but the sons-in-laws mocked Lot. This contrast with the response of Noah's sons and their wives who were saved from the flood. Anyway, after learning of the plans the night before, "And when the morning arose..." Lot was still there. Makes you wonder what he actually said to his married daughters and their husbands or perhaps the life he had been living compared to this revelation. Lot continued to linger to the point that the angels physically moved him, his wife, and 2 of his daughters away from Sodom (Gen 19:16). Even though he has been with a couple of G_d's angels for hours and they protected him from his fellow citizens (v 10), he still didn't trust their instructions to flee to the mountain. Instead he focused on his fears (v17) and expressed where he wanted to go (v 19-20). We don't know the length of time involved but he was dwelling in the "little" city, Zoar. For some reason he became fearful while living there and ended up going to the mountain anyway (v 30). Lot wasn't fearful in Sodom. In Zoar, he was fearful.
 
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It's interesting that Christ compares the time of his return to the time of Sodom/Gomorrah in Luke 17.

I think what Christ was trying to say in Luke 17 is that when you see this starting to happen, when you see Him in the sky and when you hear the shout, you should be ready to drop everything you're doing and be ready to Go right there and then.

Don't think about your possessions, don't think about anything you're going to leave behind, don't think about your wallet, don't think about your unlocked doors, don't think about a pot you have cooking on the stove, don't think about any of that because none of that matters.

He's not going to wait for you to get your affairs in order, you gotta be ready to go and go immediately.

The part about "as it were in the days of ____, so shall it be in the days of the Son of Man", well. Look around you, and what do you see? There's sin everywhere. In Noah's days, the sin was so great, that God felt the need to kill every living thing on the Earth except for a few specimens He saved on the Ark. In the days of Sodom and Gomorrah, the sin was so great in these two cities, that they had to be utterly purged from existence, every man, woman, and child needed to be wiped off the face of the planet.

These days, I see that kind of sin everywhere in society. Every level of society is polluted with sin. Unbelief, sexual immorality, violence, greed, gluttony, you name it, it is in our society. We have our young teenage children fornicating to their hearts' desire, and instead of putting a stop to it, we (society in general) hand them condoms because "they'll do it with or without the condoms". Instead of teaching our kids better, we just turn our backs to what they're doing. Violence is in the everyday life of our children as they play horrendously violent and disturbingly realistic graphic-wise video games and watch violent movies. I remember the days when "violence" in a videogame was a plumber stomping on a turtle or a mushroom with very cartoony effects, or a small little round dot moving across the screen and some guy bending over holding his stomach and disappearing off the screen.

Sometimes a red "star" where the impact was shown. Nowadays, we see people in videogames exploding in blood and gore, organs flying everywhere. I remember in movies, when someone got shot, they'd fall over and have little red dots on their shirts and pants. Nowadays, you see blood and guts flying out of them as they are turned into swiss cheese in the name of "realism".

I remember in school when school lunches tried to provide balanced meals... now they have snack machines and pop machines in school so kids can eat as much junk food as they desire. I'm not in my 60s, I'm not in my 50s or even my 40s... I'm 35 and that's how far sin has gone in the last ~20 years. A lot of these things have really ramped up in the last 10 years.

What are we teaching our kids nowadays? It is "wrong" to refer to someone by their gender, we're not permitted to mention someone's race, kids are not permitted to pray even privately in some places, we're forced to accept Islam in our society even if we recognize how evil it is, and we're even teaching our public (adults and kids alike) that "Terrorists aren't Muslims" (lol) even though the vast majority of them are, in fact, radical Muslims as well as other ridiculous statements like "There's no link between Terrorism and Islam".

We're teaching our kids that homosexuality is not only OK, but that it is bad to be against homosexuality and that it should be considered "normal".

In our Churches, Replacement Theology is being taught in many of them, which makes God out to be a liar and some churches are even downplaying Christ's role in our salvation and some of the reports I've read, is that some of them don't even mention Repentance, they teach "Free Grace" where all you do is say you accept Christ and that's all you need to do (even though the Bible teaches you must Repent).

The list just goes on and on and on... there's going to be a point where the entire world is going to be like Sodom and Gomorrah, or like the days of Noah. When that day comes, a lot of these people will be taken by surprise, especially those who refuse to believe. I feel genuine pity for the blinded Atheists out there who are going to look up and see Him in His full glory just before the hailstones and meteorites start falling. I wonder what they'll say in their hearts?
 
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The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and the wiping out of their inhabitants of all ages, occurred before the coming of the Messiah who takes away the sins of the world.

I am therefore interested to know what the Bible says about the fate of those inhabitants of all ages, both as of now, and in the future.

Can anybody point me to the specific Bible statements on the subject.

Thanks.
 
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The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and the wiping out of their inhabitants of all ages, occurred before the coming of the Messiah who takes away the sins of the world.

I am therefore interested to know what the Bible says about the fate of those inhabitants of all ages, both as of now, and in the future.

Can anybody point me to the specific Bible statements on the subject.

Thanks.

I don't think it is expressly spelled out in the Bible, but I've heard a belief that just "rings true" within me. It goes something like this:

Everybody who died before the Crucifixion were held in a temporary holding area, which was split into two parts -- Abraham's Bosom and Hades (both are mentioned in the Bible, see Jesus's story of the Rich Man and Lazarus). Those who had done evil went to Hades (which is NOT Hell) and those who were goodly men stayed in Abraham's Bosom.

When Christ was crucified, His sacrifice paid for all sin past, present and future (I think the Bible mentions this somewhere? I forget where). Well, if His sacrifice paid for all sins, even those in the past (it had to have, otherwise how would people like Abraham go to Heaven? He was a fleshly human just like we are, and all humans have sinned in their lives, and no sin can enter Heaven), and we know from the Gospel that belief in Christ and repentance is what saves you... but yet how could the people who were dead before Christ believe in Him?

Well, a logical conclusion would simply be that Christ spent the 3 days He was dead down in Abraham's Bosom and in Hades, giving everybody a chance to Repent and be saved. If they Repent and accept Him, they went to Heaven. If they didn't, they stayed there and are awaiting the final White Throne Judgment where they will be sent to the Lake of Fire.

It makes sense to me, but yet it isn't specifically mentioned in the Bible. It also covers all of the people who lived and died in the Old Testament, and I hear "What about the OT people!?" coming from Atheists a lot who refuse to believe in Christ.
 
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Thanks to Xalith for his thoughts in Reply #10, which included:
I don't think it is expressly spelled out in the Bible
Actually, if any Readers choose to use a concordance to investigate, or use a Bible program to do a scan, those Readers just might find statements inspired by God about Sodom that will be both specific, and possibly troubling to them.


(In that context, I might add that it might be wise to not accept unquestioningly, comments from people (commentators, pastors, organisations, etc.) who would assign Israel to permanent nothingness in spite of God's specific revelation to the contrary in Romans Chapter 11. Do not Paul's inspired statements there put paid to comments of that nature?)


The Reader could also investigate the word “skirt”. They possibly could find a supporting prophecy – a prophecy that has yet to be fulfilled, despite attempts by commentators and churches with a Jew-diminishing agenda to “Christianise” it away.
 
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With respect to Xalith's allusion to Luke 16:19-31 (Lazrus and the rich man):
19 There was a certain rich man who [was] customarily clothed in purple and fine linen and making merry in luxury every day.

20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, who was laid at his gate, full of sores
21 and desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table. But even the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 And it happened that the beggar died and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom. The rich one also died and was buried.
23 And in hell he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things. But now he is comforted and you are tormented.

26 And besides all this, there is a great chasm fixed between you and us; so that they desiring to pass from here to you cannot, nor can they pass over to us from there.
27 And he said, I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house,

28 for I have five brothers, so that he may testify to them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
29 Abraham said to him, They have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them.

30 And he said, No, father Abraham, but if one should go to them from [the] dead, they would repent.

31 And he said to him, If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded, even though one rose from [the] dead.
two thoughts can be offered.

First of all, internal evidence (including inconsistencies) points to the story being a parable. That evidence includes the use of pagan concepts, at odds with God's inspired written revelation to Israel. The Pharisees, Sadducees and Scribes would have automatically recognised those things and understood the allegorical nature of the story.

Secondly, they would have also understood that the story was offered in the context of Jesus' statements recorded in Verses 15 to 18.

If they did have any doubt regarding what Jesus was talking about, the specific reference to five brothers clinched it for them. It should clinch it for us, too, if we are anything like real students of the Bible.


So, two important and highly clarifying questions remain (re this post and the previous one), if anyone is interested in pursuing them:

- What does God specifically reveal about the future of Sodom in particular (and Gomorrah by implication)?

- Did anyone significant in Israel's history have five brothers? If so, who was it?
 
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