Questions for the boys

MehGuy · Nov 22, 2015

Goodbook said:
amazing. A guy who admits when he is wrong.

We can be friends after all!
Next question. Man smart, women smarter? Does a smart woman intimidate you? What if she had more experience and qualifications than you, would you consider dating her? Or what if she didn't tell you and then later find out she's like a genius and famous and got all these degrees and certificates and academic credentials. Would that make you feel different about her? Can beauty and brains go together?

Well there are studies that suggest men's IQs are all over the place. And when it comes to the super intelligent there are more of us.. but when it comes to the super dumb there are more of us too, lol.

Tom Mix · Nov 22, 2015

Women and men are both smart but in different ways. A woman is smart in knowing how to operate men. Men are smart in learning how to get out of the house and go do things so the women cant operate them.

God gave us both intelligence, if a person does not use them then it goes to waste.

Wgw · Nov 28, 2015

Goodbook said:
I think everyone who wants to should have an oppurtunity to say what they can about their loved one at a funeral, to ban this or cut it short seems cruel.

It was a strange funeral (the church lady) because the husband was unbelieving but had to acknowledge his wife was a christian and funnily enough she was one of those annoying evangelist types that wont shut up about Jesus.

Interestingly in the Orthodox church we do not really do eulogies in the funeral proper, although there is often a forum for eulogies at the burial service.

Goodbook · Nov 28, 2015

Do othordox cremate people?
I just wondered what people do at the cremation, watch their loved ones burn?

Sorry. I dont mean to sound insensitive. I just saw my church lady friends widow at her church today. It seemed he was bringing some books to the church library that his wife had. We're really hoping he's found the Lord or Hes found him.

Wgw · Nov 29, 2015

Goodbook said:
Do othordox cremate people?
I just wondered what people do at the cremation, watch their loved ones burn?

Sorry. I dont mean to sound insensitive. I just saw my church lady friends widow at her church today. It seemed he was bringing some books to the church library that his wife had. We're really hoping he's found the Lord or Hes found him.

We dont believe cremation shows proper respect for the deceased. Orthodox Christians are buried.

blackribbon · Nov 29, 2015

Goodbook said:
Do othordox cremate people?
I just wondered what people do at the cremation, watch their loved ones burn?

Sorry. I dont mean to sound insensitive. I just saw my church lady friends widow at her church today. It seemed he was bringing some books to the church library that his wife had. We're really hoping he's found the Lord or Hes found him.

Usually you have the church/memorial service with the body in a casket (can be rented), then it is taken to the crematory instead of a graveside burial. People don't attend the cremation. The family pick up the ashes at a later date and put them in their urns. Often there is a small personal service when a final resting place for the ashes is chosen...be it in a body of water, at a favorite site, or even in a cemetery.

I want to be cremated. The idea of my body being confined to a little box buried deep in the ground makes me claustrophobic even if it isn't really a rationale thought.

William67 · Nov 29, 2015

I used to think about being cremated, until I became friends with a family who owned a funeral home. It was then that I learned that to save money, some funeral homes either cremate multiples (more than one body at a time) or wait until the end of the day to remove the ashes. Meaning, you may not be alone in your urn. There is also the fact that not everything is reduced to ash during cremation. Large bone fragments and teeth may not have been reduced to ash. So, they have this device, which to me looked a lot like one of those paint can shakers, into which they place your ashes. Inside are steel balls which pulverize any remaining pieces.

ReesePiece23 · Nov 29, 2015

Tom Mix said:
Women and men are both smart but in different ways.

Your post should have ended here. This is a KEY point that so many in society miss.

Men and women aren't the same. Opportunities definitely should be, but we're certainly not the same. One isn't better than the other, but the differences that define us are unique to the respective sex.

People just need to get over this 'equality' thing.

Sketcher · Nov 29, 2015

TheDag · Nov 29, 2015

William67 said:
I used to think about being cremated, until I became friends with a family who owned a funeral home. It was then that I learned that to save money, some funeral homes either cremate multiples (more than one body at a time) or wait until the end of the day to remove the ashes. Meaning, you may not be alone in your urn. There is also the fact that not everything is reduced to ash during cremation. Large bone fragments and teeth may not have been reduced to ash. So, they have this device, which to me looked a lot like one of those paint can shakers, into which they place your ashes. Inside are steel balls which pulverize any remaining pieces.

Really this is just because you feel bad about it. At the end of the day I just can't see the point in spending heaps of money on a grave that nobody will visit after a few years have passed.

Tom Mix · Nov 29, 2015

I know I am getting cremated and I could careless what it gets mixed up with. They can sprinkle it in with horse poop if they like, I no longer have any use for it.

Ashes to ashes and dust to dust. Stick a fork in me, I am done.

I have looked at prices and traditional burial will cost at least $4500. Cremated will cost less then $500. With my last paycheck they can cremate me. If anything is left over they can go to Golden Corral's buffet and eat all they want.

blackribbon · Nov 29, 2015

William67 said:
I used to think about being cremated, until I became friends with a family who owned a funeral home. It was then that I learned that to save money, some funeral homes either cremate multiples (more than one body at a time) or wait until the end of the day to remove the ashes. Meaning, you may not be alone in your urn. There is also the fact that not everything is reduced to ash during cremation. Large bone fragments and teeth may not have been reduced to ash. So, they have this device, which to me looked a lot like one of those paint can shakers, into which they place your ashes. Inside are steel balls which pulverize any remaining pieces.

Cremating multiple bodies at the same time is against the law, so your friends were breaking the law if they did it this way. I already am aware that the not everything gets reduced to powder ashes and this doesn't bother me a bit. And really, if both things did happen, who cares because ultimately, I intend to be spread somewhere (or shallowly buried in my husband's grave)...I just don't want to be in an expensive box.

Also the cost difference can easily and literally be $10,000 more for a casket burial over a cremation. Burials have a million little costs, like a vault liner, the "closing" of the grave, the cost of the casket, embalming, the grave site, the marker, the grave site service, transportation to the cemetery, police escort (required if the procession is long enough)...besides the costs of the funeral itself (which you can have with either...you can even have an open casket and/or a visitation and still cremate).

I wrote a check for $12,000 for my husband's funeral. That was the most basic package with a casket out of the least expensive category (though I would have picked it anyway). It did not include the cemetery plot or the cemetery marker....nor the fellowship at the church after the graveside service.

William67 · Nov 29, 2015

blackribbon said:
Cremating multiple bodies at the same time is against the law, so your friends were breaking the law if they did it this way. I already am aware that the not everything gets reduced to powder ashes and this doesn't bother me a bit. And really, if both things did happen, who cares because ultimately, I intend to be spread somewhere (or shallowly buried in my husband's grave)...I just don't want to be in an expensive box.

Also the cost difference can easily and literally be $10,000 more for a casket burial over a cremation. Burials have a million little costs, like a vault liner, the "closing" of the grave, the cost of the casket, embalming, the grave site, the marker, the grave site service, transportation to the cemetery, police escort (required if the procession is long enough)...besides the costs of the funeral itself (which you can have with either...you can even have an open casket and/or a visitation and still cremate).

I wrote a check for $12,000 for my husband's funeral. That was the most basic package with a casket out of the least expensive category (though I would have picked it anyway). It did not include the cemetery plot or the cemetery marker....nor the fellowship at the church after the graveside service.

It wasn't illegal here, at the time. My funeral has already been paid.

blackribbon · Nov 29, 2015

William67 said:
It wasn't illegal here, at the time. My funeral has already been paid.

From time to time, verify that everything really has been paid for. My husband's aunt thought hers was paid for...but that didn't include things like transporting the body (you probably are being buried in the same state so not an issue) and the memorial service that her family needed for closure. I think my mom-in-law also said that there were other expenses not paid for like the closing of the grave. (If she had been cremated, they could have transported her with them...but it was literally several thousands of dollars to transport a body across state lines.)

William67 · Nov 29, 2015

blackribbon said:
From time to time, verify that everything really has been paid for. My husband's aunt thought hers was paid for...but that didn't include things like transporting the body (you probably are being buried in the same state so not an issue) and the memorial service that her family needed for closure. I think my mom-in-law also said that there were other expenses not paid for like the closing of the grave. (If she had been cremated, they could have transported her with them...but it was literally several thousands of dollars to transport a body across state lines.)

Currently, it's set up for in state. My executor has a small incidentals fund for miscellaneous costs.

Goodbook · Nov 29, 2015

Who are you talking to?
Did someone die and you were too cheap to even provide a burial plot? I dont understand some men. They spend a heap of money on cars and boys toys but they couldnt even provide a decent burial for their loved ones.

William67 · Nov 29, 2015

Goodbook said:
Who are you talking to?
Did someone die and you were too cheap to even provide a burial plot? I dont understand some men. They spend a heap of money on cars and boys toys but they couldnt even provide a decent burial for their loved ones.

Ummm, if youre talking to me, then I was referring to my own funeral.

Goodbook · Nov 29, 2015

Im glad that Jesus had the tomb provided by his rich friend as his body could have just been chucked in gehenna with the other robbers.

I think that was God given. If you have the means and you refuse to provide, I think that shows you are worse than an infidel and denied the faith.

Not saying anyone here personally is like that, but it does say in the bible if any man does not provide for their own household...

William67 · Nov 29, 2015

Goodbook said:
Im glad that Jesus had the tomb provided by his rich friend as his body could have just been chucked in gehenna with the other robbers.

I think that was God given. If you have the means and you refuse to provide, I think that shows you are worse than an infidel and denied the faith.

Who are you talking to?

Goodbook · Nov 29, 2015

Question for boys. What do you think of men who refuse to be the breadwinners of their households? And not because they have maybe a disability or got made redundant or any legitimate reason.

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