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Abram's Awakening said:

As the lightening flashes from the east to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be...

Lightening spiritual represents knowledge. The Word of God as manifested as the "Bible" will be established and completed in the midst of these times, that is, through the move of western civilization... The Word of God is part of the Godhead, representing Christ in another form-also explained as the that in which coincides with the Helper(or Holy Spirit).

An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign. But the only sign that will be given them is the sign of Jonah. For just as Jonah was in the belly of the sea monster for 3 days, so the Son of Man will remain in the heart of the Earth for three days and three nights...

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Abram's Awakening said:

What can I say? Everything I have learned-came from no man. It all comes from Him... I'm stuck having to type on a phone, and I'm currently walking. Everything I have been saying thus far is off the top of my head. I can prove and back up every form of prophecy that I've been explaining with countless scriptures in the Old and New Testaments.

It all narrows down to the hidden spiritual knowledge and a reconciliation that allows us to fulfill the first and foremost commandment: To love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, might, and strength. Now ask yourself in regard to this commandment, "How can one love somebody, if they know them not?" How can one truly come to love the Lord-How can one truly come to know Him?

Through the Word...

In establishing this connection with God- as opposed to relying souly on the worldly establishments and other men who profess to know him, who are found to be liars-you will find an ancient and hidden wisdom that God had predestined to our glory.

As Light shining in a dark place. A door that is opened for us to walk through for prophetic mysteries to unfold...

For such a man can say, I know the Lord-better yet, I am known by the Lord...

After this takes place you come to the harsh reality that those of the world and all its established congregations who claim to follow Jesus-deceived into believing the false message of peace- are blind and unable to see the simplicity of truth that had been taught to you by Lord Himself. You discover how foolish and blind the world really is...

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Abram's Awakening said:

The rapture doesn't happen instantly. However, it is happening now-this very moment. And it won't be finished until the remnant- who are chosen- finish the grievous task that had been given them to prove and perfect their faith. Though grievous-an honorable opportunity for the son's of men who chose to live by faith rather than sight...

He's calling us out this very moment. He's calling us out of the world and all it's false religions-out of Babylon and from the Harlot- to reestablish Truth, and rebuild Zion...

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Abram's Awakening said:

Keep in mind...

Genesis: God created the world and finished his work in six days(six trumpets or periods of time). He rested on the seventh day from ALL His work.(Seventh Trumpet)

Matt, Mark, Luke, John: So the Son of Man will be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights. (Six trumpets or periods of time) Seventh day is completion.

Revelations: Six Trumpets or periods of time for apostasy to run its coarse and transgression to end. Seventh Trumpet is completion of Revelation and the saved to enter His rest(Sabbath Day's Rest)

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Abram's Awakening said:

Ok. But where do you envision heaven? Where is heaven to you? I tell you right now, it has nothing to do with looking up...

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iamlamad said:

Balderdash and nonsense. This is simply human reasoning with no basis in Scripture.

John used the color white 16 other times - each time to represent righteousness. To even imaging he would use it once to represent evil is silly to the extreme.

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iamlamad said:

The more you write, the more you show that you don't know and can't comprehend English.

You think this verse says:
Come up hither, and I will shew thee ONLY things which must be hereafter .

John did not write that. You imagine that.

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dfw69 said:

No I have heard this from others on this forum that we are awaiting the 6 seal so it's becoming popular for whatever it's worth.....

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iamlamad said:

YOu should go back to school and study English again: "MORE than conquering" means "we overwhelmingly conquer."

You are nit picking just because you don't like to be proven wrong. Besides, as I have shown you numerous times, the GREEK behind "conquering and to conquer" was translated far more times as OVERCOMING.

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• American Standard Version
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  Romans 8:37 (ASV) Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
  
  
• The Bible in Basic English
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  Romans 8:37 (BBE) But we are able to overcome all these things and more through his love.
  
  
• Common English Bible
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  Romans 8:37 (CEB) But in all these things we win a sweeping victory through the one who loved us.
  
  
• Common English Bible w/ Apocrypha
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  Romans 8:37 (CEBA) But in all these things we win a sweeping victory through the one who loved us.
  
  
• Holman Christian Standard Bible
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  Romans 8:37 (CSB) No, in all these things we are more than victorious through Him who loved us.
  
  
• The Darby Translation
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  Romans 8:37 (DBY) But in all these things we more than conquer through him that has loved us.
  
  
• English Standard Version
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  Romans 8:37 (ESV) No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.
  
  
• Good News Translation
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  Romans 8:37 (GNT) No, in all these things we have complete victory through him who loved us!
  
  
• Good News Translation w/ Apocrypha
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  Romans 8:37 (GNTA) No, in all these things we have complete victory through him who loved us!
  
  
• GOD'S WORD Translation
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  Romans 8:37 (GW) The one who loves us gives us an overwhelming victory in all these difficulties.
  
  
• Hebrew Names Version
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  Romans 8:37 (HNV) No, in all these things, we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.
  
  
• Jubilee Bible 2000
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  Romans 8:37 (JUB) Nevertheless, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
  
  
• King James Version
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  Romans 8:37 (KJV) Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
  
  
• King James Version w/ Apocrypha
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  Romans 8:37 (KJVA) Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
  
  
• Lexham English Bible
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  Romans 8:37 (LEB) [No], but in all these [things] we prevail completely through the one who loved us.
  
  
• The Message Bible
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  Romans 8:37 (MSG) None of this fazes us because Jesus loves us.
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• New Century Version
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  Romans 8:37 (NCV) But in all these things we have full victory through God who showed his love for us.
  
  
• New International Reader's Version
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  Romans 8:37 (NIRV) No! In all these things we will do even more than win! We owe it all to Christ, who has loved us.
  
  
• New International Version
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  Romans 8:37 (NIV) No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.
  
  
• New King James Version
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  Romans 8:37 (NKJV) Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us.
  
  
• New Living Translation
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  Romans 8:37 (NLT) No, despite all these things, overwhelming victory is ours through Christ, who loved us.
  
  
• New Revised Standard
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  Romans 8:37 (NRS) No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.
  
  
• New Revised Standard w/ Apocrypha
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  Romans 8:37 (NRSA) No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.
  
  
• Orthodox Jewish Bible
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  Kehillah in Rome 8:37 (OJB) But in all these things we prevail bichlal (entirely) through Him who had ahavah for us.
  
  
• Douay-Rhiems Catholic Bible
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  Romans 8:37 (RHE) But in all these things we overcome, because of him that hath loved us.
  
  
• Revised Standard Version
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  Romans 8:37 (RSV) No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.
  
  
• Revised Standard Version w/ Apocrypha
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  Romans 8:37 (RSVA) No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.
  
  
• SBL Greek New Testament
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  Romans 8:37 (SBLG) ἀλλ’ ἐν τούτοις πᾶσιν ὑπερνικῶμεν διὰ τοῦ ἀγαπήσαντος ἡμᾶς.
  
  
• Third Millennium Bible
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  Romans 8:37 (TMB) Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him that loved us.
  
  
• Third Millennium Bible w/ Apocrypha
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  Romans 8:37 (TMBA) Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him that loved us.
  
  
• Today's New International Version
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  Romans 8:37 (TNIV) No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.
  
  
• Tyndale
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  Romans 8:37 (TYN) Neverthelesse in all these thinges we overcome strongly thorow his helpe that loved vs.
  
  
• The Webster Bible
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  Romans 8:37 (WBT) But in all these things we are more than conquerors, through him that loved us.
  
  
• World English Bible
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  Romans 8:37 (WEB) No, in all these things, we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.
  
  
• Weymouth New Testament
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  Romans 8:37 (WNT) Yet amid all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who has loved us.
  
  
• Wycliffe
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  Romans 8:37 (WYC) But in all these things we overcome, for him that loved us.
  
  
• Young's Literal Translation
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  Romans 8:37 (YLT) but in all these we more than conquer, through him who loved us;

iamlamad said:

It also makes PERFECT SENSE: God wished to introduce John to the 7 seals, but had to start with the book in the Father's hand and the search for one worthy. That was HISTORY. May I suggest you go back and study chapters 4 and 5 until you can correctly answer WHY Jesus was not at first seen at the Father's right hand? Then WHY "no man was found" causing John to weep? Then WHY the Holy Spirit was still in the throne room in chapter 4 in this vision.

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Abram's Awakening said:

Wasting your time... The Word isn't meant to be translated in the elementary foolishness of literalism. The Word is the Divine Truth that proves and upholds the will of God in the sight of all creation...

Stop relying on your own understanding. When you do so-you misguide those untrained and lack the faith to discern otherwise...

The True Christian Church was stolen as an inheritance after the crucifixion and isnt reastablished until this day in age as a spiritual gathering and reconciliation is completed. Therefore every Christian establishment in this world as well as any other that claims to be religious during these two periods of time are false and misleading...

Keep reading... Seek the answers from the Lord Himself and stop using your own twisted logic...

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Abram's Awakening said:

1st Trumpet: Gnosticism

2nd Trumpet: The rise of the Catholic Church

3rd Trumpet: Dark Ages

4th Trumpet: Age of Kings and Science

5th Trumpet: Age of Enlightenment

6th Trumpet: Modern Times where apostasy and spiritual exile progresses to the point of establishing Lucifers kingdom with the completion of Secular Humanism.

7th Trumpet: Spiritual awakening, cleansing, baptism, and Second Coming of Christ...

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Abram's Awakening said:

Ok. But where you do envision heaven? Where is heaven to you? I tell you right now, it has nothing to do with looking up...

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Abram's Awakening said:

Remember, we're talking about the Divine Word here. No literal translations. For every word coincides with spiritual thoughts revealed only by the mind of Christ...

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Abram's Awakening said:

I tell you now that Jesus is in heaven as well as in the earth -at the same time... Remember, the enemy is very cunning and has been at work for a very long time now... The majority of the masses haven't a clue as to how important that Bible really is...

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