who or what is the Devil, Satan, that old serpent, the great dragon?

Same thing happened to me earlier today. They called me a witch and thought I should be burned. Lol!!!

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Abram's Awakening said:

This is a trustworthy statement. He is the Teacher that has been waiting patiently for His own to realize that they have had direct access to Him for quite some time now...

He wants everyone to come and learn directly from Him...

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And yes you are right...like I was telling a friend of mine who was making a remark about God backwards is Dog. And I said "who is the only being we can kick , yell at or be mean to that shows us unconditional love no matter what? He doesn't know how long you were gone where you were or who you were with..he just sits there in the window watching waiting for you to come home to him so he can show you all the love he has for you. It's your dog. Well your God has been doing the same thing. " she was like " wow..that is so deep." She doesn't get out much.

Can't really blame them. They're groping along a wall like blind men hoping to make sense of things. They claim to be Christian, and haven't a clue what a true Christian really is. We're a rare breed. Look what happened to all our prophets, apostles, and faithfull martyrs? They were all killed in violent ways...

True bondservants of Christ are like a rare gem in this world...

I like that analogy...

Jaxxi said:

HELLO??READ YOUR BOOK PLEASE. THES.1 4:17 "..after that we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air." So why wouldn't I ?
I'm just going by what it says man so where am I wrong?

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Read the word "COMING". The cloud is a smoke screen so that only those who are in the Lord, will see his return here on the earth. If he is on the earth then you will be in the wrong place if you think you will be gathered so other place than the Holy Land of ZION. That is why it says, "The meek shall inherit the EARTH." and Ps 2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. Ps 132:13 For the LORD hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation.
Revelation 11:4 These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands standing before God on the earth. New King James Version a lighted, flashing arrow pointing back to the prophecy found in Zechariah 4:14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.
Is 2:3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

he-man said:

Read the word "COMING". The cloud is a smoke screen so that only those who are in the Lord, will see his return here on the earth. If he is on the earth then you will be in the wrong place if you think you will be gathered so other place than the Holy Land of ZION. That is why it says, "The meek shall inherit the EARTH." and Ps 2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. Ps 132:13 For the LORD hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation.
Revelation 11:4 These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands standing before God on the earth. New King James Version a lighted, flashing arrow pointing back to the prophecy found in Zechariah 4:14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.
Is 2:3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

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So why does it say meet the Lord in the air? Enlighten me....what does in the air represent?

Imagican said:

2 Corinthians 4:

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.


Note the use of the SMALL 'g' in god. The 'god of THIS WORLD' is NOT the Father of Christ. The 'god of this world' is Satan, the devil, that old serpent, great dragon. For this world does NOT follow God, but the 'god of this world'. And the 'god of this world' has many 'angels' that do his bidding. I call them DEMONS.

So, WHO IS this 'god of this world'?

Blessings,

MEC

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It is Satan although he is now under subjection to Jesus Christ since all rulership over heaven and earth has been handed over to Jesus Christ.

Jaxxi said:

So why does it say meet the Lord in the air? Enlighten me....what does in the air represent?

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It means in the sky where the clouds are. In another reference Jesus says he will descend onto the clouds of heaven at his second coming and the elect will be collected from both the living and the dead in him,

[30] And then shall appear the sign of the son of man in the heaven. And then [*6*shall beat their chest *1*all *2*the *3*tribes *4*of the *5*earth]. And they shall see the son of man coming upon the clouds of the heaven with power and [*2*glory *1*great]. [31] And he shall send his angels with a trumpet [*2*sound *1*of great]. And they shall assemble his chosen from out of the four winds, from the tips of the heavens unto their tips.
(Matthew 24:30-31 [ABP])

Jaxxi said:

So why does it say meet the Lord in the air? Enlighten me....what does in the air represent?

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Simply saying we will encounter his breath or wind as Christ sweeps through which them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him accomplish his tasks of riding the world of the present evil order of things.
You have to understand the Hebrew From H7306; wind; by resemblance breath and the Koine Greek when the word air is used in 1Th 4:17 To encounter with the Lord in the air [G109 aēr] (eis apantēsin tou Kuriou eis ἀήρ From ἄημι aēmi (to breathe unconsciously, that is, respire).
This special Greek idiom is common from the base of G109 and in the LXX and like the Hebrew from the base of H7306, which refers properly to an inanimate breeze. Mar 13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
If it were meant to be a literal word for air it would be spelled in the Koine Greek G3772 οὐρανός ouranos Perhaps from the same as G3735 (through the idea of elevation); the sky; by extension heaven (as the abode of God)
1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
Act 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be penalized with destruction everlasting from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

cgaviria said:

It means in the sky where the clouds are. In another reference Jesus says he will descend onto the clouds of heaven at his second coming and the elect will be collected from both the living and the dead in him, (Matthew 24:30-31 [ABP])

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You need to leave it as it says: Mar 13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

he-man said:

You need to leave it as it says: Mar 13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

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It means the sky, here is another example of the usage of the same word used in the scripture,

Look at the birds of the heaven! for they do not sow, nor do they harvest, nor do they gather together into storehouses; and [*3*father *1*your *2*heavenly] maintains them. Are you therefore rather different than them? (Matthew 6:26 [ABP])

Are birds in the sky or in the very heaven you're referring to? They are in the sky. Per scripture, all men die, and their souls are collected in Hades, till they are resurrected, whether for reward, or for judgment in fire. They don't somehow end up alive in heaven, that is a false teaching.

cgaviria said:

It means the sky, here is another example of the usage of the same word used in the scripture,

Look at the birds of the heaven! for they do not sow, nor do they harvest, nor do they gather together into storehouses; and [*3*father *1*your *2*heavenly] maintains them. Are you therefore rather different than them? (Matthew 6:26 [ABP])

Are birds in the sky or in the very heaven you're referring to? They are in the sky. Per scripture, all men die, and their souls are collected in Hades, till they are resurrected, whether for reward, or for judgment in fire. They don't somehow end up alive in heaven, that is a false teaching.

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Wow thank you..I thought it meant the sky as well. Now I have been told there is no reason that the Lord as He ascended could not have been in a craft of some kind. This is where it could be tricky discerning which craft would be the right one if one were to come back for us. Then again we could actually be in spirit form when this happens if Christ ascended in spirit. Did He? Thomas touched and felt His wrists and pierced side...

Jaxxi said:

Wow thank you..I thought it meant the sky as well. Now I have been told there is no reason that the Lord as He ascended could not have been in a craft of some kind. This is where it could be tricky discerning which craft would be the right one if one were to come back for us. Then again we could actually be in spirit form when this happens if Christ ascended in spirit. Did He? Thomas touched and felt His wrists and pierced side...

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He won't be in a "craft", because then read this passage,

[9] And [*2*these things *1*having said], of their looking, he was lifted up, and a cloud undertook him from their eyes. [10] And as they were gazing into the heaven at his going, and behold, [*2*men *1*two] stood by them in [*2*attire *1*white], [11] ones who also said, Men, Galileans, why do you stand looking into the heaven? This Jesus, the one being taken up from you into the heaven, so shall come in which manner you saw him going into the heaven. [12] Then they returned unto Jerusalem from the mount, of the one being called Olive Grove, which is near Jerusalem, [*2*for a Sabbath *1*sufficing] journey.
(Acts 1:9-12 [ABP])

So in likewise manner of him going up into the clouds, so will he descend upon clouds. I see no mention of a "craft" here. And also, we see passages that the elect will be collected by angels,

And then he shall send his angels, and they will assemble his chosen ones from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth unto the uttermost part of heaven. (Mark 13:27 [ABP])

cgaviria said:

It means the sky, here is another example of the usage of the same word used in the scripture, .

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You have to understand the Hebrew From H7306; wind; and how it is used; the four winds of the heaven; by resemblance breath and the Koine Greek when the word air is used in 1Th 4:17 To encounter with the Lord in the air [G109 aēr] (eis apantēsin tou Kuriou eis ἀήρ From ἄημι aēmi (to breathe unconsciously, that is, respire).
This special Greek idiom is common from the base of G109 and in the LXX and like the Hebrew from the base of H7306, which refers properly to the wind or breath.
Eze 37:9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.
And then he shall send his angels, and they will assemble his chosen ones from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth unto the uttermost part of heaven. (Mark 13:27 [ABP])
You correctly said Mat 6:26 look to the fowls of the heaven [G3772], for they do not sow, nor reap, nor gather into storehouses, and your heavenly Father doth nourish them; are not ye much better than they?
G3772 οὐρανός ouranos Perhaps from the same as G3735 (through the idea of elevation); the sky; by extension heaven (as the abode of God)
To sum it up Rev 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
Psalm 135:3 Praise the LORD, for the LORD is good; Sing praises to His name, for it is pleasant.
(4) For the LORD has chosen Jacob for Himself, Israel for His special treasure. (5) For I know that the LORD is great,
And our Lord is above all gods. (6) Whatever the LORD pleases He does, In heaven and in earth,
In the seas and in all deep places.

he-man said:

You have to understand the Hebrew From H7306; wind; and how it is used; the four winds of the heaven; by resemblance breath and the Koine Greek when the word air is used in 1Th 4:17 To encounter with the Lord in the air [G109 aēr] (eis apantēsin tou Kuriou eis ἀήρ From ἄημι aēmi (to breathe unconsciously, that is, respire).
This special Greek idiom is common from the base of G109 and in the LXX and like the Hebrew from the base of H7306, which refers properly to the wind or breath.
Eze 37:9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.
And then he shall send his angels, and they will assemble his chosen ones from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth unto the uttermost part of heaven. (Mark 13:27 [ABP])
You correctly said Mat 6:26 look to the fowls of the heaven [G3772], for they do not sow, nor reap, nor gather into storehouses, and your heavenly Father doth nourish them; are not ye much better than they?
G3772 οὐρανός ouranos Perhaps from the same as G3735 (through the idea of elevation); the sky; by extension heaven (as the abode of God)
To sum it up Rev 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
Psalm 135:3 Praise the LORD, for the LORD is good; Sing praises to His name, for it is pleasant.
(4) For the LORD has chosen Jacob for Himself, Israel for His special treasure. (5) For I know that the LORD is great,
And our Lord is above all gods. (6) Whatever the LORD pleases He does, In heaven and in earth,
In the seas and in all deep places.

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Glad you agree. I use the word "sky" to help convey the meaning of it. But yes its betters conveyed as the "air", or " wind", that we "breath" that resides in the sky.

Abram's Awakening said:

Same thing happened to me earlier today. They called me a witch and thought I should be burned. Lol!!!

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Oo

Sounds like you had quite an interesting and not entirely pleasant morning, then.

Lol!

cgaviria said:

He won't be in a "craft", because then read this passage,

[9] And [*2*these things *1*having said], of their looking, he was lifted up, and a cloud undertook him from their eyes. [10] And as they were gazing into the heaven at his going, and behold, [*2*men *1*two] stood by them in [*2*attire *1*white], [11] ones who also said, Men, Galileans, why do you stand looking into the heaven? This Jesus, the one being taken up from you into the heaven, so shall come in which manner you saw him going into the heaven. [12] Then they returned unto Jerusalem from the mount, of the one being called Olive Grove, which is near Jerusalem, [*2*for a Sabbath *1*sufficing] journey.
(Acts 1:9-12 [ABP])

So in likewise manner of him going up into the clouds, so will he descend upon clouds. I see no mention of a "craft" here. And also, we see passages that the elect will be collected by angels,

And then he shall send his angels, and they will assemble his chosen ones from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth unto the uttermost part of heaven. (Mark 13:27 [ABP])

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Thank you for clearing that up. I don't care for disinformation especially with the Bible and how people take their Biblical Scholarly rank and twist the literal meaning of the Word. In your opinion who is the who're of Babylon? Is it Rome's Vatican?