Does suicide mean hell

Chrisnathanowen · Jul 4, 2015

I'm tired of my life. I've thrown it away as it is. I party all the time, I've done drugs excessively, my grades are terrible. I've had sex with nine girls and I don't even know If I could remember all of their names. My friends are terrible. I'm just done living, I'm not in a crazed state of mind, I'm calm and collected and I know I don't want to have to go through misery every day. My question is if I kill myself (If I can have the guts to) will I go to hell?

grandvizier1006 · Jul 4, 2015

You shouldn't kill yourself, period. I don't think you will go to Hell if you are saved, but regardless of whether you are or aren't God doesn't want you to take your own life. Please get help and pray to God to give you peace and comfort.

orangeness365 · Jul 5, 2015

I struggle with wanting to kill myself, especially a year and some months ago, I went to the mental hospital and the outpatient program because of it. I recommend you get some help as well, by calling a suicide hotline or going to a mental hospital as well. I honestly don't know what God will judge, but I know I don't want to add yet another sin onto my list if I can help it. At least you had fun while you were throwing it away, as you say. Are you afraid of something? Like being poor or not finishing college? I had a mental illness along with depression ruin my college years, and I didn't even finish. I'm going to try to finish again, but I dropped out a couple of years ago. Even if you end up homeless, it's not a sin, just something that really is miserable and sucks. I've never been homeless, but I imagine it would really suck. when I went to the hospital that really changed my mind was I realized that I didn't really have it that bad. I still had a home and a family and relatives, but there were others that had to work at their jobs constantly and had no family or friends. If one thing went wrong, they'd be on the streets, and had no one to share their lives with except God. It's really hard to be alone. The way I figure it, is by the time you get to the point of wanting to kill yourself, then it is time for a change in your life. Maybe try getting different kinds of friends, spend some more time on this website, go to church, join the bible study scene instead of the party scene. When you read about the Bible, many of the characters have their faults, except for Jesus, and suffer. It's great that you were having a good time, other than promiscuous sex and your grades, but in life there is a lot of suffering, and the Bible says that to those who overcome the tribulation/suffering, there will be a reward in Heaven.

http://www.openbible.info/topics/trials_and_tribulations

Romans 5:3-5
3Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, 4and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, 5and hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.

MadamImAdaminChrist · Jul 5, 2015

You may go to hell. You may not. I would not take a chance with life and death, though--try to play the odds in such serious matters.

In the past, I have been severely depressed and locked-in-an-asylum suicidal. I am no longer.

Yeah, I don't want to be alive at certain times, but they come less frequently as I get older. I can see that there are things to be done, even enjoyed. Mountains to climb that are not fun, but rewarding. People to help, which is fulfilling. You sound like you have had your fill of the "world", as they say, and need something more to live for than just fun, pleasure and personal achievement.

Why do you feel you will feel this badly about life in the future? Where do you find your hope--what are you hoping for in the future? If there is nothing, can you find something? I definitely think you should talk to a professional about your state of mind.

I am not saying it does not take guts to kill yourself (it does). But it takes more guts to find a meaningful existence when your plan A or plan B life fall through.

Jeshu · Jul 5, 2015

How can self harm save you from hell? Jesus who is The Life saves us from our hellish agony. So please, rather than hoping God will not send you to hell for killing yourself - put your hope in Jesus and let Him save you from your bad life.

1 John 3:15b

......no murderer has eternal life residing in him.

Rather listen to what Jesus says

Matthew 11:28

“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest."

Goatee · Aug 25, 2015

Be there done it. Very common to feel the way you do buddy. Its getting past these dips in your life is the hardest bit. I have had loads in my life but mostly bunched together around a 10 year period.

I drank to hide it but eventually i sought advice. Best thing i ever did as i wanted to die!!

Took a few weeks but i steadily felt better. Not easy but i would hate to betray God buy throwing my life away when he created it for me! What you are suffering now, use it as a cross to bear for God. Offer up your suffering to him. Show him how much you love him even though you are going through hell on earth. But, at the same time seek some advice from a doctor and a priest / religious.

You are not alone!!! God loves you and wants you to turn to him. His hand is already reaching out to you my friend!

God bless you

Dear Lord, please help my friend here to reach out for you. To grasp your mercy and love with both hands. Please help him to escape from his problems by realizing that his body is a temple for you, a sacred temple that only you can say when it is time for it to come home. Please Lord, help our friend here in this hard time in his life.

com7fy8 · Aug 25, 2015

Instead of killing yourself, deny yourself and take up your cross daily and follow Jesus > Luke 9:23-24 >

"Then He said to them all, 'If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me. For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will save it.'"

We all need how God kills our selfish lives but makes us alive in His love.

Suicide can be a way of avoiding this correction > Hebrews 12:4-11 < trust our Father to correct you.

If we in our selfishness have messed up our lives, Jesus does say that we will lose our lives if we try to save them. We self-destruct, then, in our selfish living; therefore . . . in a way, it is "living" suicide to live a selfish life. We miss out on the life of love which we could have. And if then we also kill ourselves, we miss out on how we could learn how to love, which comes with our Father's correction. Yes, there is pain in God's correction, but this brings us to how we can love.

Paul says,

"For I am hard-pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better. Nevertheless to remain in the flesh is more needful for you." (Philippians 1:23-24)

I'll "bet" at times Paul was tempted to kill himself so he could go to be with Jesus. But love motivated him to stay here in order to help us. And we can consider how much pain and tribulation and rejection Paul suffered, in order to be here for us.

So, it is important to love people by staying here, and learning how to love so you can help others.

We need to love women, not use them. And we need to not get intimate with suicidal stuff inside of us; intimacy with suicidal feelings and consideration can be more destructive and ruining than being intimate with women. These can keep us from being intimate with Jesus Himself; Paul says that we have become spiritually intimate with Jesus, by trusting in Him >

"But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him." (1 Corinthians 6:17)

And in our intimacy with Jesus He shares His own love and almighty safety with us, spiritually and emotionally. So, trust God for this.

chaoticfirefly · Aug 25, 2015

Oh dear.

There is nothing bad you can do outside if like murder or something along those lines. Nobody knows what happens, but dude, the last thing you want is to kill yourself because you had sex and did drugs. Your throwing away so much potential, I know life sucks and it can get awful and depression is a monster but it's always temporary.

If you aren't already, seek therapy.

shera19 · Aug 25, 2015

I beg of you not to take your own life. I,ve had someone close to me commit suicide. Even if you don,t go to hell the ones you leave behind do, on earth. There are never enough answers, self blame for not seeing the problem, wanting to have done more, blaming yourself. It goes round and round in your mind. It's fear, the not knowing. Plus the grief and pain. Please please don,t do it.

FutureAndAHope · Aug 25, 2015

Pro 20:17 Bread of deceit is sweet to a man; but afterwards his mouth shall be filled with gravel.

The problem with our lives is when we sin, it initially tastes good, but ends up making us feel bad. The way to have a truly blessed life, too feel good and free in life, is to follow after that which is good.

Help the poor, give to the needy, pray for those who are weak, or sick, look outside of your self to what you can do for people. Seek after God, for the bible says His Spirit gives love, joy, and peace.

Death is just not an option. The world is waiting for all the good you can do.

Krissy Cakes · Aug 26, 2015

I was told it doesn't but hun life is too precious to end your life.

I'm praying for you.

PM me if you want to talk.

Army Wife

Poster0 · Aug 26, 2015

chaoticfirefly said:
There is nothing bad you can do outside if like murder or something along those lines.

Im not sure if i understand your comment exactly, but i would like to share the word if i may.

Mathew 5:21 “You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘You shall not murder,[a] and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’ 22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister[c] will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’[d] is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.

Poster0 · Aug 26, 2015

Chrisnathanowen said:
I'm tired of my life. I've thrown it away as it is. I party all the time, I've done drugs excessively, my grades are terrible. I've had sex with nine girls and I don't even know If I could remember all of their names. My friends are terrible. I'm just done living, I'm not in a crazed state of mind, I'm calm and collected and I know I don't want to have to go through misery every day. My question is if I kill myself (If I can have the guts to) will I go to hell?

It's not hopeless. You can quit drugs if you really want to and if you try. It may take a little time, and even a few failures but you can do it. I quit finally after smoking weed every day for my whole adult and teen life. (about 25-30 years) I use to do coke when i was younger as well, and i sold everything i had at that time to buy the stuff, i even stole for it, but i was able to quit. The weed was actually harder because i used it for so many years and i used it to treat my depression as well. I just couldn't afford to buy it any more so i had to quit, plus my health isn't too good and it was destroying my lungs. Drugs are a trap and they make you think that you cant be happy without them, but thats not true. After you quit you can find much happiness in a drug free life. Its wel worth quitting. Dont condemn yourself, and take your time, be patient with yourself. You can quit if you dont give up trying. About those other things you mentioned, let me just say that everyone is a sinner and many of us have done many things we wished we wouldn't have. There is always hope, dont give up.

Tempura · Sep 16, 2015

Chrisnathanowen said:
I'm tired of my life. I've thrown it away as it is. I party all the time, I've done drugs excessively, my grades are terrible. I've had sex with nine girls and I don't even know If I could remember all of their names. My friends are terrible. I'm just done living, I'm not in a crazed state of mind, I'm calm and collected and I know I don't want to have to go through misery every day. My question is if I kill myself (If I can have the guts to) will I go to hell?

I don't know the answer to your question.

I drank heavily from age 17 to 30+. I abused prescription drugs. I was in some bad relationships. I hung out often with people I didn't like. At some point I snapped, all the depression and anxiety and crap came on at full force. I had to quit my job, haven't worked since. All my relationships failed. I didn't know who or what I was, the only thing I knew that I can't take the torment, I had to keep drinking and taking pills so that I could feel anything but despair or emptiness. I never wanted to kill myself, but I was afraid that I would - so I a) cried for God to help, and b) got help.

Therapy, hospitals, programs, ECT, AA, everything. I rebelled for years, even in treatment. At some point, something clicked. I started to understand myself better. I embraced my weaknesses. I kept only the friends who really cared for me, I stopped drinking - although I still take benzos, but I got an agreement with my doctor: every time I renew the prescription, I get a little less. I won't abuse them anymore. It will be a real test for me when the doses get very small, but it is what it is.

I'm still not "great", probably never will, but I have so much more peace now. Not only did I get through, God helped me through too. It took time, yes, but it was a good lesson for me. Along the way I met good people, those little shining beacons of hope, who had been through much and who showed much real love, compassion and hope. They helped me, some even without knowing it. I noticed that I could help some of them too.

You can be that beacon of hope. You can anything else, too. Get help, brother. Get any help you can. Stop doing what you hate. You will start to notice people who are like you. They will start to notice you. Things will start to happen, and you will see much more than you knew you could. You are nowhere near a lost cause, just get out of the stuff you hate. God will hear you. Cry out to Him.

Said a little prayer for you.

HondaMan · Sep 17, 2015

He hasn't logged since -_-

zippy2 · Sep 17, 2015

oh my Lord. Please Lord make him safe. Amen

Yeshuas_My_Freedom · Nov 27, 2015

Jaxxi said:
Read my reply above. I never said it was biblical. It is an understanding that I have and an answer I was given when a close friend killed herself. Take it or leave it.

I'll leave it.
As does every Christian. And when this is a help section for people who suffer sharing such an absurd falsehood to someone who appears to be contemplating suicide is irresponsible.
You should have left it. It's pagan, linked to reincarnation, and is not appropriate here.

BookofMatt · Nov 27, 2015

I didn't take anything out of context, you said exactly what you said. It's both irresponsible and downright inaccurate to accuse someone with suicidal inclinations or someone who's committed suicide of selfishness, and any mental health professional would agree. Through the viewpoint of a neurotypical person who doesn't truly understand nor has experienced mental illness first-hand, of course suicide would seem "selfish" when taking the survivors into consideration, but through the perspective of someone with a significant mental impairment - whether clinical depression, PTSD, schizophrenia, mood disorders, etc., all of which account for the majority of successful suicides - it's not selfish to not care or take into consideration how suicide might affect those around you, because that's not what a suicidal brain rationalizes. Suicide is an act of desperation born out of overwhelming hopelessness, isolation, loneliness or psychosis, not a premeditated effort to intentionally inflict pain upon others.

Most people with mental illnesses can't control their suicidal thoughts or impulses. I have severe-level bipolar with psychotic features; if I was in the throes of a psychotic episode and listened to the voices in my head telling me to stab a knife into my heart because the walls of my home were closing in around me, is that a "selfish" act when I'm not capable of rationalization? That's an extreme case, but the lack of judgement is no different for the person suffering from crippling depression or emotional trauma. Depression is an illness which dramatically affects one's mood, thought process and judgement; applying your own viewpoint to someone else's is problematic in and of itself, but to deem suicide victims as "selfish" is not only cruel, it's both stigmatizing and further damaging to people who unwillingly struggle with suicidal thoughts or have survived a suicide attempt themselves.

You may mean well, and perhaps your intention is to dissuade anyone here from committing suicide, but nobody suffering from suicidal thoughts wants to be told that their feelings are "selfish" and make them feel like more of a burden and more isolated from being understood than they already believe themselves to be. I would recommend visiting suicide prevention websites and reading up on the topic.

Press On · Nov 27, 2015

BookofMatt said:
I didn't take anything out of context, you said exactly what you said. It's both irresponsible and downright inaccurate to accuse someone with suicidal inclinations or someone who's committed suicide of selfishness, and any mental health professional would agree. Through the viewpoint of a neurotypical person who doesn't truly understand nor has experienced mental illness first-hand, of course suicide would seem "selfish" when taking the survivors into consideration, but through the perspective of someone with a significant mental impairment - whether clinical depression, PTSD, schizophrenia, mood disorders, etc., all of which account for the majority of successful suicides - it's not selfish to not care or take into consideration how suicide might affect those around you, because that's not what a suicidal brain rationalizes. Suicide is an act of desperation born out of overwhelming hopelessness, isolation, loneliness or psychosis, not a premeditated effort to intentionally inflict pain upon others.

Most people with mental illnesses can't control their suicidal thoughts or impulses. I have severe-level bipolar with psychotic features; if I was in the throes of a psychotic episode and listened to the voices in my head telling me to stab a knife into my heart because the walls of my home were closing in around me, is that a "selfish" act when I'm not capable of rationalization? That's an extreme case, but the lack of judgement is no different for the person suffering from crippling depression or emotional trauma. Depression is an illness which dramatically affects one's mood, thought process and judgement; applying your own viewpoint to someone else's is problematic in and of itself, but to deem suicide victims as "selfish" is not only cruel, it's both stigmatizing and further damaging to people who unwillingly struggle with suicidal thoughts or have survived a suicide attempt themselves.

You may mean well, and perhaps your intention is to dissuade anyone here from committing suicide, but nobody suffering from suicidal thoughts wants to be told that their feelings are "selfish" and make them feel like more of a burden and more isolated from being understood than they already believe themselves to be. I would recommend visiting suicide prevention websites and reading up on the topic.

You are absolutely correct. Thank you

Jordan Kurecki · Nov 27, 2015

Chrisnathanowen said:
I'm tired of my life. I've thrown it away as it is. I party all the time, I've done drugs excessively, my grades are terrible. I've had sex with nine girls and I don't even know If I could remember all of their names. My friends are terrible. I'm just done living, I'm not in a crazed state of mind, I'm calm and collected and I know I don't want to have to go through misery every day. My question is if I kill myself (If I can have the guts to) will I go to hell?

http://jordankurecki.sermon.net/main/main/20270674

I too was once in your shoes, in fact I was probably worse, I once had a gun in my mouth and was close to pulling the trigger.

Please listen to my sermon I linked to above about how God changed and turned my life completely around.

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