Proof "Queen of Heaven" IS actually Pagan. And Mary was NOT sinless.

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I differ from my conservative and liberal friends in that I very much love Mariology and I think of it as a beacon of feminist possibilities. Mary encapsulated the Goddess traditions of the ancient pagans and various other beliefs arose around her including that she is the Queen of Heaven. Further, she don't need no man, she's a beacon of theosis in and of herself.

She definitely needs God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Without the trinity....
 
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Poor Joseph. Locked into a relationship with a woman who was already married. Betrothed to her, even, and then actually married to her, causing her to commit adultery. Had he but really known that his wife was the Queen of Heaven, maybe his adulterous relationship might have been more socially acceptable.
Actually, we know that Joseph knew what his role in Mary's life was, accepted it whole-heartedly. And since he accepted the will of God, he's a saint in heaven.
 
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She definitely needs God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Without the trinity....
So God has a gender? Anselm in his Prayer to St Paul uses quite maternal imagery, Bernard of Clairvaux likewise thinks of Jesus as nurturing and uses motherhood and especially the idea of breast suckling. Throughout the High Middle Ages one finds maternal imagery in the spiritual writings of religious people.
 
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So God has a gender? Anselm in his Prayer to St Paul uses quite maternal imagery, Bernard of Clairvaux likewise thinks of Jesus as nurturing and uses motherhood and especially the idea of breast suckling. Throughout the High Middle Ages one finds maternal imagery in the spiritual writings of religious people.
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Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
 
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Can't get past
Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Sure, the Son, whose breasts one suckles, according to Bernard of Clairvaux's spirituality.
 
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So God has a gender? Anselm in his Prayer to St Paul uses quite maternal imagery, Bernard of Clairvaux likewise thinks of Jesus as nurturing and uses motherhood and especially the idea of breast suckling. Throughout the High Middle Ages one finds maternal imagery in the spiritual writings of religious people.

I see. Like spiritual writing of religious Hindus about Kali.
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Sure, the Son, whose breasts one suckles, according to Bernard of Clairvaux's spirituality.
I'll have to read it. Can you give me a reference to book/chapter

I assume metaphorical/hyperbole in relation to his role as the bridegroom of the "church"

the church is the bride and mother exemplified in the Mother of God.
Revelation 12:4
And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

See Herod/Mary/Jesus

Revelation 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
 
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I'll have to read it. Can you give me a reference to book/chapter

I assume metaphorical/hyperbole in relation to his role as the bridegroom of the "church"

the church is the bride and mother exemplified in the Mother of God.
Revelation 12:4
And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

See Herod/Mary/Jesus

Revelation 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Bernard of Clairvaux in a letter wrote:
Do not let the roughness of your life frighten your tender years. If you feel the stings of temptation . . . suck not so much the wounds as the breasts of the Crucified. He will be your mother and you will be his son.
The spirituality of the High Middle Ages is filled with what we today may call transgenderism, it is a spiritual mine for those interested in queer-friendly theology. I think it's rather sad that Vatican II returned far too much to a biblical-only basis for theology when there is so much within the pre-Tridentine Catholicism which can be mined for its inclusiveness. Much the same is true of Mariology, today's more progressive Catholics tend to reject it and only the staunchly conservative Traditionalist Catholics accept it... It's a shame really when so much of Catholic feminist theology can actually embrace high Mariology.
 
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I see. Like spiritual writing of religious Hindus about Kali. View attachment 166406
Kali being the Mother of the Universe, I don't see imagery of Kali nurturing the Universe though as I do in Jesus. Although some more New Age influenced feminists do seem interested in appropriating Kali as a Goddess symbol.
 
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Bernard of Clairvaux in a letter wrote:

The spirituality of the High Middle Ages is filled with what we today may call transgenderism, it is a spiritual mine for those interested in queer-friendly theology. I think it's rather sad that Vatican II returned far too much to a biblical-only basis for theology when there is so much within the pre-Tridentine Catholicism which can be mined for its inclusiveness. Much the same is true of Mariology, today's more progressive Catholics tend to reject it and only the staunchly conservative Traditionalist Catholics accept it... It's a shame really when so much of Catholic feminist theology can actually embrace high Mariology.
The quote is clearly hyperbole /metaphor within the context of versus like the one below
1 Peter 2:2
As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
 
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