Transgender gets pregnant.

Aldebaran · Nov 25, 2015

Armoured said:
Always a good stand by. Can't refute something directly? Try to refute something else and link them; gender dysphoria and abortion, practically the same thing. *SMH*

He was showing you another example of how the same thing is being done in other areas to justify those actions. Redefining words in order to make something seem justified doesn't change facts.

Armoured · Nov 26, 2015

Smidlee said:
I never said they were the same

Then stop playing the guilt by association game.

Cute Tink · Nov 26, 2015

Smidlee said:
Because God is the God of law and order. God doesn't like hypocrisy ... pretending to be something you are not.

No pretending involved.

Gender Dysphoria is just a make-up word to avoid calling it sin... rebellion against God.

You are welcome to believe that, but you would be incorrect.

Cute Tink · Nov 26, 2015

Aldebaran said:
He was showing you another example of how the same thing is being done in other areas to justify those actions. Redefining words in order to make something seem justified doesn't change facts.

Just like proclaiming something is rebellion or sin doesn't change facts.

Neither does calling it mental illness, sickness, etc. for that matter.

Armoured · Nov 26, 2015

Aldebaran said:
He was showing you another example of how the same thing is being done in other areas to justify those actions. Redefining words in order to make something seem justified doesn't change facts.

No one's redefining anything. Except possibly "rebellion".

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN · Nov 26, 2015

Smidlee said:
Because God is the God of law and order. God doesn't like hypocrisy ... pretending to be something you are not.

You mean like most people, that say they're are Christians.

Smidlee · Nov 26, 2015

Armoured said:
Then stop playing the guilt by association game.

I'm not. It guilt by being guilty of using words to cover up people's sin. As Lot learned God will eventually judge sin in our lives if we don't and it always comes at a heavy price. As it written how can two walk together unless they both agree.
Do you really expect the wisdom of the world be in line with the wisdom of God?

Armoured · Nov 26, 2015

Smidlee said:
I'm not. It guilt by being guilty of using words to cover up people's sin. As Lot learned God will eventually judge sin in our lives if we don't and it always comes at a heavy price. As it written how can two walk together unless they both agree.
Do you really expect the wisdom of the world be in line with the wisdom of God?

That's all incredibly vague sounding. Let's make it simple. Without invoking abortion , homosexuality, or paedophilia, can you explain what, specifically, you think is immoral about being transgender?

razzelflabben · Nov 26, 2015

Cute Tink said:
You haven't even established you have ever asked me. I've spoken of phenotype, genotype and gender several times here.

Post 1. Post 2. Post 3. Post 4. Post 5.

wow, you are so determined to pretend you are right on this that you don't even respond to what I said and think that is wise?! How sad.

You have yet to back up your accusation that you have ever asked me to back it up with dictionary definitions.

However, regardless of your accusation lacking any support at this time:

Phenotype: the set of observable characteristics of an individual resulting from the interaction of its genotype with the environment.
Genotype: the genetic constitution of an individual organism.
Gender: the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex

A phenotypical male would be someone with the physical sex of male.
A genotypical male would be one with XY chromosomes.
A gendered male would be one with the behavioral, cultural or psychological traits typical of a male.

You've provided definitions and so have I. Given that I have referenced there being a phenotype, genotype and gender involved 5 times outside of this topic, you cannot say I've never provided those before. Since there are clearly more than one way to define male and female, my point is satisfied.

Interestingly, the definition you cite about males producing gametes means that children cannot be males and sterile men are not males. Clearly that cannot be the only definition of male.

I asked for a link to where you have ever asked me for these definitions and .... nothing?

again, your trying to hard to prove something you can't, since the definitions in question were male and female, not all these other things you are bringing into the discussion like they were what was in question. You see, we are talking about common society terms in this part of this discussion, yet you pretend that that isn't what the discussion is about. You claimed that the word male had multiple meanings, but fail to even present one, much less multiple. The same is true for female, in fact, you instead purpose to change the topic and pretend I am the one who is wrong on this matter. It's really kind of funny how hard you are trying to pretend you are right when you have clearly shown yourself to be wrong.

razzelflabben · Nov 26, 2015

Armoured said:
That's a double edged sword. If in God there is no male or female, why should He care what's in your pants?

You tell me? You see, God is about the spirit of man, though the flesh is how that spiritual nature is lived out. Therefore, how the flesh lives out their sexuality, is a reflection of the nature of the spirit within.

Smidlee · Nov 26, 2015

Armoured said:
That's all incredibly vague sounding. Let's make it simple. Without invoking abortion , homosexuality, or p, can you explain what, specifically, you think is immoral about being transgender?

Without God there is no objective morality so man can make excuses for all sins including pedophilia.

razzelflabben · Nov 26, 2015

Armoured said:
Always a good stand by. Can't refute something directly? Try to refute something else and link them; gender dysphoria and abortion, practically the same thing. *SMH*

sorry, but his argument was clear, well thought out and a perfect example of why changing word meanings is so harmful to mankind. Instead of attacking the poster, why not address the argument? Isn't that what we are suppose to be doing anyway?

Armoured · Nov 26, 2015

razzelflabben said:
sorry, but his argument was clear, well thought out and a perfect example of why changing word meanings is so harmful to mankind. Instead of attacking the poster, why not address the argument? Isn't that what we are suppose to be doing anyway?

*SMH* same question to you, then. What, specifically, has been "redefined" here?

Armoured · Nov 26, 2015

Smidlee said:
Without God there is no objective morality so man can make excuses for all sins including pedophilia.

I'll take this as tacit admission you can't provide a meaningful answer. You could have just said that.

Armoured · Nov 26, 2015

razzelflabben said:
You tell me? You see, God is about the spirit of man, though the flesh is how that spiritual nature is lived out. Therefore, how the flesh lives out their sexuality, is a reflection of the nature of the spirit within.

...and how does that address the question?

Smidlee · Nov 26, 2015

Armoured said:
I'll take this as tacit admission you can't provide a meaningful answer. You could have just said that.

I noticed you avoid the point I was making. You seem to think you can condemn one sin while justifying another.

Armoured · Nov 26, 2015

Smidlee said:
I noticed you avoid the point I was making. You seem to think you can condemn one sin while justifying another.

I'm avoiding your irrelevant attempt to use guilt by association tactics, yes.

Smidlee · Nov 26, 2015

Armoured said:
I'm avoiding your irrelevant attempt to use guilt by association tactics, yes.

Where? I pointed out man makes excuses for his sins no matter what sin he comments.

Armoured · Nov 26, 2015

Smidlee said:
Where? I pointed out man makes excuses for his sins no matter what sin he comments.

But that wasn't the question. The question was "explain what is sinful about being gender dysphoric" want a discussion? Answer the question you were asked, not some imaginary question you wish you were asked.

Smidlee · Nov 26, 2015

Armoured said:
But that wasn't the question. The question was "explain what is sinful about being gender dysphoric" want a discussion? Answer the question you were asked, not some imaginary question you wish you were asked.

You are trying to be something you are not. Pride is common sin that blind people of their own sin.

Often it's very easily to spot a man trying to act and talk like a woman.

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