Headline: 130 Whites Were Killed By Terrorists

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It is an insult to their sacrifice to insinuate that Americans only care about whites when American soldiers sacrificed themselves so that Afghani girls could go to school.
Oh… is that the latest talking points reason why we invaded that country? I can never keep up with the ever changing justifications anymore.

Surprising then why we haven't invaded all the other countries that little girls can't go to school in. We should really get Crackin... Our kids shouldn't be sent to die only for afghan girls, they should be sent to die equally for all girls.

Terrorists can feel safe to ride out any number of temper tantrums in the face of American lack of resolve.

I suppose we could say the same for theater shooters and daycare slaughterers. Of Course we Americans have proven we are more than happy to ride out any number of those attacks. The more the merrier.

We can't have foreign terrorists here shooting up our theaters, concert halls and day care centers however ...that's a homegrown specialty ...we don't want any foreigners stealing our thunder
 
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Oh… is that the latest talking points reason why we invaded that country?


No.
It is a response to the vile insinuation that Americans are all about the white.
American soldiers of every race, creed and religion, have given their lives in a volunteer army fighting for the freedom of Muslims in the ME.

It is time to lay the vile insinuations to rest, and remember the soldiers who sacrificed lives prove that such insinuations are nothing more than tawdry lies.
No Americans in this generation have died for blue eyed Parisians. It has been for the people of the ME that American soldiers have given their lives.
 
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No.
It is a response to the vile insinuation that Americans are all about the white.
American soldiers of every race, creed and religion, have given their lives in a volunteer army fighting for the freedom of Muslims in the ME.

It is time to lay the vile insinuations to rest, and remember the soldiers who sacrificed lives prove that such insinuations are nothing more than tawdry lies.
No Americans in this generation have died for blue eyed Parisians. It has been for the people of the ME that American soldiers have given their lives.
I would like to believe that we went to war in the ME simply to save the civilians there from an oppressive government, but sadly I don't believe that's the only reason. Considering the amount of civilian lives lost and the situation we left there, if that was our reason, we weren't very successful.
 
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I would like to believe that we went to war in the ME simply to save the civilians there from an oppressive government, but sadly I don't believe that's the only reason. Considering the amount of civilian lives lost and the situation we left there, if that was our reason, we weren't very successful.
Blame the politicians. But I agree with the above poster; our soldiers themselves are not racist and did a good job with a very bad situation.

We certainly don't need to go back there.
 
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Blame the politicians. But I agree with the above poster; our soldiers themselves are not racist and did a good job with a very bad situation.

We certainly don't need to go back there.
I certainly don't blame the soldiers, but I do tell my boys that if they choose to go into the military there's no guarantee anymore that they will always be the good guys.
 
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American soldiers of every race, creed and religion, have given their lives in a volunteer army fighting for the freedom of Muslims in the ME.

Again with the shifting justifications.

If that were the case, if that is truly what we sent our kids to fight and die for, while robbing the US treasury and future generations, I'd have to agree with MG... we did a horrible job.

Certainly, Iraqi and Syrian and Afghan Muslims are far less free today than they were prior to 2003.

And why not Invade Saudi Arabia if freeing ME Muslims is a just reason to send our kids to die?
 
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Again with the shifting justifications.

If that were the case, if that is truly what we sent our kids to fight and die for, while robbing the US treasury and future generations, I'd have to agree with MG... we did a horrible job.

Certainly, Iraqi and Syrian and Afghan Muslims are far less free today than they were prior to 2003.

And why not Invade Saudi Arabia if freeing ME Muslims is a just reason to send our kids to die?
1) Our reasons for fighting the Iraqi wars had to do with oil (especially the first war) and weapons of mass destruction. Many have argued that Bush was looking for a pretext to attack Saddam from 2001 to 2003, when we attacked, so regime change was also a factor.

2) the Afghans are less free? Nonsense! Of course, the Afghan War is about fighting terrorists and was started as an effort to kill Al Qaeda leadership. Afghans are much more free than they were in 2001, especially Afghan women.
 
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1) Our reasons for fighting the Iraqi wars had to do with oil (especially the first war) and weapons of mass destruction. Many have argued that Bush was looking for a pretext to attack Saddam from 2001 to 2003, when we attacked, so regime change was also a factor.

No disagreement here

2) the Afghans are less free? Nonsense! Of course, the Afghan War is about fighting terrorists and was started as an effort to kill Al Qaeda leadership. Afghans are much more free than they were in 2001, especially Afghan women.

I'd have to see evidence of this.
Are there pockets of afghan society that are more free? perhaps. on the whole is it a freer society?

My best friend from HS spent the past 3 years as a contractor on a FOB in country there (He's an electrician) and the stories he has told me don't indicate a whole lot of "freedom on the march"... but again that is one mans perspective...

For sure, Iraqi and Syrian Muslims enjoyed FAR more freedoms prior to 2003 than they do now.
 
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I would like to believe that we went to war in the ME simply to save the civilians there from an oppressive government, but sadly I don't believe that's the only reason. Considering the amount of civilian lives lost and the situation we left there, if that was our reason, we weren't very successful.
Catch-22 here.
If Americans perk up about bombings in Paris more than what is happening in Syria, 'well obviously they are racist'.
But American troops volunteer to fight these terrorists in the ME, well that is just as suspect. It is a genocide against the brown man.
 
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No disagreement here



I'd have to see evidence of this.
Are there pockets of afghan society that are more free? perhaps. on the whole is it a freer society?

My best friend from HS spent the past 3 years as a contractor on a FOB in country there (He's an electrician) and the stories he has told me don't indicate a whole lot of "freedom on the march"... but again that is one mans perspective...

For sure, Iraqi and Syrian Muslims enjoyed FAR more freedoms prior to 2003 than they do now.

AFGHANISTAN
The exception that I have carved out is Afghanistan. In many areas of the country, all Muslims are much more free. Understand that "free" in the Middle East has little to do with life in the US. It is about being able to make free choice in one's daily life. With regard to Muslim women, the changes have been dramatic. Before our invasion, women could not go to school. Now, they go to university and run for governmental posts.

IRAQI SHI-ITES
Do you believe that Iraqi Shiites were freer before we toppled Hussain. We installed a Shiite government. The shiites, especially those living in Baghdad are arguably better off.
 
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