Trump on waterboarding.

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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...arding-even-if-it-doesnt-work-they-deserve-it
"Trump told supporters: “Would I approve waterboarding? You bet your ass I would. In a heartbeat. I would approve more than that. It works.”

The Republican frontrunner then added “… and if it doesn’t work, they deserve it anyway for what they do to us”."
So torturing people for revenge. Once more Trump demonstrates his unfitness to hold office.
 
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So, who here thinks the fact that America is no longer great, and must be made great again by Trump, is because it has not been doing enough torturing?
Sounds reasonable to me, lol.

I think you just made the definitive statement on this topic.
 
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So, who here thinks the fact that America is no longer great, and must be made great again by Trump, is because it has not been doing enough torturing?
It's one more thing China's beating us in. We gotta make America great again!
 
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For even thinking Trump would make a good President America deserves everything it gets.

Unless Americans learn to step on ignorance they will remain a 2nd and eventually become a 3rd world country.
America is going backwards and religion is dragging it down, both ways are the wrong way for any country to be going.
 
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Trump is the personification of the Republican Id.
and often the "iot" added.:tutu:

Trump is, at heart, a salesman. Like any old-fashioned salesman, he is not prone to allow facts to get in the way of a good story. That doesn't make him evil. It just means he's not operating on the idea that he's going to make a deal with anyone that looks too closely at the product.
 
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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...arding-even-if-it-doesnt-work-they-deserve-it
"Trump told supporters: “Would I approve waterboarding? You bet your ass I would. In a heartbeat. I would approve more than that. It works.”

The Republican frontrunner then added “… and if it doesn’t work, they deserve it anyway for what they do to us”."
So torturing people for revenge. Once more Trump demonstrates his unfitness to hold office.

That's nothing. Our whole criminal justice system is based on revenge.
 
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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...arding-even-if-it-doesnt-work-they-deserve-it
"Trump told supporters: “Would I approve waterboarding? You bet your ass I would. In a heartbeat. I would approve more than that. It works.”

The Republican frontrunner then added “… and if it doesn’t work, they deserve it anyway for what they do to us”."
So torturing people for revenge. Once more Trump demonstrates his unfitness to hold office.

Would Trump ever, "in a heartbeat," approve of waterboarding or "more than that" on a non-Muslim?
 
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For even thinking Trump would make a good President America deserves everything it gets.

Unless Americans learn to step on ignorance they will remain a 2nd and eventually become a 3rd world country.
America is going backwards and religion is dragging it down, both ways are the wrong way for any country to be going.
You may wish to brush up on what the worlds mean before you wrongly state that America will remain 2nd world. We're not 2nd world, we're a first world country.

I know someone that use to work with the government and knows first hand that waterboarding does work.And it's not a new enhanced interrogation technique either.

I think trump's stating that detainees deserve waterboarding for what they do to America is intended to gain support from those who believe believe terrorists deserve what they get . Possibly playing off of the emotions that are still fresh after Paris and due to the situation generally in matters of terrorism.
 
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You may wish to brush up on what the worlds mean before you wrongly state that America will remain 2nd world. We're not 2nd world, we're a first world country.

Because we keep shouting it? Talk is cheap.

I know someone that use to work with the government and knows first hand that waterboarding does work.And it's not a new enhanced interrogation technique either.

Neither are thumbscrews...

I think trump's stating that detainees deserve waterboarding for what they do to America is intended to gain support from those who believe believe terrorists deserve what they get . Possibly playing off of the emotions that are still fresh after Paris and due to the situation generally in matters of terrorism.

Funny how we're more "emotional" about Paris than the French are... they agreed to take in 30,000 refugees...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-while-u-s-republicans-would-turn-them-away/
 
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I know someone that use to work with the government and knows first hand that waterboarding does work.And it's not a new enhanced interrogation technique either.

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No, torture (which waterboarding is) doesnt work. Read the reports, the surveys on the issue.

Or look at the "Last week tonight" episode on torture, its freely available on youtube.

There really isnt any sane reason to torture.

The only thing torture works really well on is getting people to confess, guilty or not. Thats why its so popular in dictatorships.
 
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No, torture (which waterboarding is) doesnt work. Read the reports, the surveys on the issue.

Or look at the "Last week tonight" episode on torture, its freely available on youtube.

There really isnt any sane reason to torture.

The only thing torture works really well on is getting people to confess, guilty or not. Thats why its so popular in dictatorships.

Any torture technique can work if you get valid information not obtainable by other means.
 
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Any torture technique can work if you get valid information not obtainable by other means.
Your feelings tell you that is true. All studies and evidence suggest otherwise.

I guess it's up to people to decide whether to trust detailed analysis or your feelings.
 
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To quote Nice Guy Eddie from Reservoir Dogs: "A person will admit they're the freaking Queen of England if you torture them enough. It don't make it true."

Paraphrased because, language but that's the idea. You torture someone and they're only going to tell you whatever you want to hear. Whatever gets you to stop.

Plus, we're supposed to be better than our enemies. If we can't hold ourselves to higher standards than the terrorists we're fighting, how can we claim any moral superiority in this? They're the barbarians, let them do the torturing.
 
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Because we keep shouting it? Talk is cheap.
No, education is invaluable. America is a first world country. Shouting that it is not doesn't change a thing.





No, torture (which waterboarding is) doesnt work. Read the reports, the surveys on the issue. .
I only know what someone in the mix of it all told me. Of course, they were involved in other methods of enhanced interrogation as well and preferred those to WB.
 
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