What is the gospel of God?

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What is the gospel of God? What is the good news?

Romans 1:1 Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God2 the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures

Luke 2:10 And the angel said to them, “Fear not, for behold, I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people. 11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.

Matt 11:4 And Jesus answered them, “Go and tell John what you hear and see: 5 the blind receive their sight and the lame walk, lepers are cleansed and the deaf hear, and the dead are raised up, and the poor have good news preached to them. 6 And blessed is the one who is not offended by me.”

Luke 4:18 “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed, 19 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”

Acts 10:36 As for the word that he sent to Israel, preaching good news of peace through Jesus Christ (he is Lord of all),​
 

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What is the gospel of God? What is the good news?

Romans 1:1 Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God2 the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures

Luke 2:10 And the angel said to them, “Fear not, for behold, I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people. 11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.

Matt 11:4 And Jesus answered them, “Go and tell John what you hear and see: 5 the blind receive their sight and the lame walk, lepers are cleansed and the deaf hear, and the dead are raised up, and the poor have good news preached to them. 6 And blessed is the one who is not offended by me.”

Luke 4:18 “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed, 19 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”

Acts 10:36 As for the word that he sent to Israel, preaching good news of peace through Jesus Christ (he is Lord of all),​

The Good News is Israel's restoration. And Israel's restoration means restoration for all human kind(Romans 11).
 
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How was (or will) Israel (be) restored, according to the good news?

Yerushalayim! Yerushalayim! You kill the prophets! You stone those who are sent to you! How often I wanted to gather your children, just as a hen gathers her chickens under her wings, but you refused! 38 Look! God is abandoning your house to you, leaving it desolate.[b] 39 For I tell you, from now on, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of Adonai.’
 
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Yerushalayim! Yerushalayim! You kill the prophets! You stone those who are sent to you! How often I wanted to gather your children, just as a hen gathers her chickens under her wings, but you refused! 38 Look! God is abandoning your house to you, leaving it desolate.[b] 39 For I tell you, from now on, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of Adonai.’
So you're saying Israel will be restored when they communally say baruch haha beshem Yeshua? Israel is restored at the second coming?
 
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Israel is throughout every nation, to hold them accountable.

Few will be saved.

Salvation is not for ALL mankind, available? sure, but few will answer the call.
This is what you believe the gospel of God is?
 
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So you're saying Israel will be restored when they communally say baruch haha beshem Yeshua? Israel is restored at the second coming?

What I'm saying is the key aspect of the New Covenant is Israel's regeneration. This is happening now as we speak. But IMHO it's not complete. IMHO there will be a recognition of Yeshua communally then Israel's restoration will be complete. Don't know how the communal recognition will be but I think some how it will happen.

Restoration of all human kind can't happen until Israel's restoration.

Some would say that Israel's restoration has been fulfilled but I say it's being fulfilled but not complete.

This was Yeshua's message when He and His disciples preached to the lost sheeps of Israel about the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Why? What I said above.

Then I believe after His resurrection 'it clicked'. That the Kingdom of Heaven included everyone not just Israel. But just because it included everyone the Gospel of the Kingdom was to the Jew first because like I said restoration for all human kind CAN'T happen until Israel's restoration is complete.

However I'm also of the opinion that the Messianic Kingdom/Era isn't eternal, that it's a stage if you will encompassing Israel's restoration.

To further my opinion I believe all believers are 'spiritual sons and daughters of Abraham' by faith which constitutes 'all nations will be blessed'. However then we have the physical sons of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob which are district.

To get back it's pretty much centered on "We have found him of whom Moses in the Law and also the prophets wrote, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.”
 
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Yerushalayim! Yerushalayim! You kill the prophets! You stone those who are sent to you! How often I wanted to gather your children, just as a hen gathers her chickens under her wings, but you refused! 38 Look! God is abandoning your house to you, leaving it desolate.[b] 39 For I tell you, from now on, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of Adonai.’
There is good news in this message. A time of promise to come.
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
As our Yeshua said..
Matt 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
We can take great comfort in this good news. It is all about timing. It is a promise that in the end the good new is coming.
Matt 9:15And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bride chamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast.
The children of Jerusalem may start mourning first, but they will not be last to mourn. They will be saying "lo, this is our God whom we have waited for"
Matt 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
 
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What I'm saying is the key aspect of the New Covenant is Israel's regeneration. This is happening now as we speak. But IMHO it's not complete. IMHO there will be a recognition of Yeshua communally then Israel's restoration will be complete. Don't know how the communal recognition will be but I think some how it will happen.

Restoration of all human kind can't happen until Israel's restoration.

Some would say that Israel's restoration has been fulfilled but I say it's being fulfilled but not complete.

This was Yeshua's message when He and His disciples preached to the lost sheeps of Israel about the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Why? What I said above.

Then I believe after His resurrection 'it clicked'. That the Kingdom of Heaven included everyone not just Israel. But just because it included everyone the Gospel of the Kingdom was to the Jew first because like I said restoration for all human kind CAN'T happen until Israel's restoration is complete.

However I'm also of the opinion that the Messianic Kingdom/Era isn't eternal, that it's a stage if you will encompassing Israel's restoration.

To further my opinion I believe all believers are 'spiritual sons and daughters of Abraham' by faith which constitutes 'all nations will be blessed'. However then we have the physical sons of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob which are district.

To get back it's pretty much centered on "We have found him of whom Moses in the Law and also the prophets wrote, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.”
Will not be fulfilled until Judah accepts Messiah........."will serve one King".
No, the 'new covenant' is not realized....we are not under covenant.
Gospel is as you say the restoration.
Also is that Messiah overcame death, will resurrect the dead, the Righteous.
Messiah will establish the Kingdom on earth, hope for new life within the Kingdom.

As for what is happening now?
This generation is brought to Truth, the Awakening. 45-55 year olds are being awakened.
A generation is being raised and prepared for tribulation, whether it is my son's generation (10 years old) or the next or the one behind him...?
144K, the undefiled, Virgins, those not defiled by women or the CHURCH! are being raised or being prepared to be raised. Dual meaning for the un-defiled. also means of the Beast, the harlots, the churches of men.

Yep, happening now.
 
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OK...so far we have:

1) The Gospel is the conversion of the Jews
2) The Gospel is the "restoration"

...any more?

The Gospel isn't the conversion of the Jews only but to the Jew first. Just like God is Israel's Messiah but King of the world. Romans 11 in my opinion explains this very well

Romans 11:26
“Out of Tziyon will come the Redeemer;
he will turn away ungodliness from Ya‘akov
27 and this will be my covenant with them, . . .
when I take away their sins.”[h]
 
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The Gospel isn't the conversion of the Jews only but to the Jew first. Just like God is Israel's Messiah but King of the world. Romans 11 in my opinion explains this very well

Romans 11:26
“Out of Tziyon will come the Redeemer;
he will turn away ungodliness from Ya‘akov

27 and this will be my covenant with them, . . .
when I take away their sins.”[h]

Yeah...but what IS it? That's the OP.
 
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What I'm saying is the key aspect of the New Covenant is Israel's regeneration.
Can I take this to mean you believe the key aspect of the gospel/good news is Israel's regeneration?

If so, as contra eluded to, how does this happen? How does the gospel describe Israel's regeneration? What causes their regeneration?
 
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It's the BIG Torah! Hello ...
Quite a vague response, don't you think? Being a Jew, having performed Torah service for years within a congregation I have to assume you are eluding to the Torah scroll? This is what you believe the gospel/good news is? The Torah given Moses?
 
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What is the gospel of God? What is the good news?

Romans 1:1 Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God2 the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures
Let's look at this first verse in context.

1 Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God--2 the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures

3 regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David,4 and who through the Spirit of holiness was declared with power to be the Son of God by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord.

5 Through him and for his name's sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith. 6 And you also are among those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ.
Paul says the gospel of god was promised beforehand through the Tanakh, and it was about God's Son. Who was testified about by the Spirit. The good news is the testimony of God's Son, who testified that all are restored through him by obedience that comes from faith. Jew and Gentile.

So, according to Paul here, the gospel is the testimony by God regarding his Son. And the good news is that He has come to cause Jews and Gentiles to be faithfully obedient to this testimony.

This is not my main point.... It's a summation of my interpretation of this text. How do you interpret it? What is the gospel of God according to the context of these verses?
 
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Let's look at this first verse in context.

1 Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God--2 the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures

3 regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David,4 and who through the Spirit of holiness was declared with power to be the Son of God by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord.

5 Through him and for his name's sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith. 6 And you also are among those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ.
Paul says the gospel of god was promised beforehand through the Tanakh, and it was about God's Son. Who was testified about by the Spirit. The good news is the testimony of God's Son, who testified that all are restored through him by obedience that comes from faith. Jew and Gentile.

So, according to Paul here, the gospel is the testimony by God regarding his Son. And the good news is that He has come to cause Jews and Gentiles to be faithfully obedient to this testimony.

This is not my main point.... It's a summation of my interpretation of this text. How do you interpret it? What is the gospel of God according to the context of these verses?

I said or meant sort of a similar thing when I quoted John 1:45 some posts ago. And honestly it's not about obedience to the Torah of Moses.

Mark 1:15
“The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”

The Good News is that what Moses in the law and the prophets wrote about is hear. What did Moses and the prophets write about? Messiah. The TaNaK points to Messiah.
 
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