Adam was formed on the 3rd Day

-57 · Sep 27, 2015

mmksparbud said:
Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after Their kind, and every winged fowl after His kind: and God saw that it was good.

Yah---that really says that we were made out of water and evolved from apes---clear as mud it is!!! ROFLOL!! God needed billions of years to have some creature evolve--not powerful enough to just take it as it says and that He spoke a world into existence as that stretches the mind tooooo much so we do have to come up with our "inventions" so as to not look like fools when scientists make their so called observations. We must try to take what man says and come up with how God could have done it their way instead of just what the bible says. Oh--ye of little faith!!!
Never mind that God said "after it's kid" that means nothing can produce anything other than after it's kind. One species can not slowly evolve into another--that can only happen within their own species--all manner of dogs can interbreed and become a different breed. A dog can not become a pig. All types of horses can crossbreed--you can even cross a zebra with a donkey--but you can't cross a zebra with a giraffe. A lion and a tiger can crossbreed--and have, they're called ligers. But even when they can crossbreed, most can not reproduce, like mules can't. After it's kind is a direct command from God and nothing can alter that. Mad scientists can manipulate DNA, as they are experimenting with now, but it can't be done naturally. It's like this whole angels crossbreeding with humans thing---can't happen, they are not our kind. Won't see any humans running around with wings anytime soon, but I do love the special effects in Maleficent. Love pictures of Pegasus--beautiful--just not real. In spite of scientists lumping man and apes under "primates"---A woman cannot mate with a gorilla and produce a baby anything (they honestly have tried this!!). I choose to take God at His word and not come up with my own inventions.

I think some people who have faith in the religion of evolutionism will twist scripture...or filter the bible through evolutionism... to make it agree with evolutionism.
Amam777 has a lot of work to do if he wants to have his theology not contradict scripture.
....and we haven't even talked about the sin nature of man yet.

Aman777 · Sep 27, 2015

-57 said:
I don't see what you are posting as truth. Perhaps you're one of the evolved monkey people. As for me, Eve was my great, great....great, great...Grandmother.

No, but i have their DNA and ERVs inside me. Can you explain HOW I got them?

-57 said:
Besides the bible saying Eve was the mother of all, there is also Adam. Acts 17:26 tells us.....And He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place,

The one man flies in the face of what your'e proclaiming.

Just one question? Where did Eve come from? Was she made from Adam?

Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. (Hebrew-Adam)

Was she Adam? Of course. since God called THEIR name Adam (mankind) in the Day they were created in Christ Spiritually. Gen 5:2 What is interesting is that all Humans are part of mankind (Adam). Amen?

Aman777 · Sep 27, 2015

Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after Their kind, and every winged fowl after His kind: and God saw that it was good.

mm:>>Yah---that really says that we were made out of water and evolved from apes---clear as mud it is!!! ROFLOL!!

False, since Humans were made on the 3rd Day Gen 2:7 AND prehistoric people were NOT made until the 5th Day Gen 1:21. This makes it Impossible that Humans could have possibly evolved from Apes. Amen?

mm:>>God needed billions of years to have some creature evolve--not powerful enough to just take it as it says and that He spoke a world into existence as that stretches the mind tooooo much so we do have to come up with our "inventions" so as to not look like fools when scientists make their so called observations. We must try to take what man says and come up with how God could have done it their way instead of just what the bible says. Oh--ye of little faith!!!

Adam lived for more than 10 Billion years, in man's time, BEFORE the first creature was created from the Water on the 5th Day. Try to keep up with God's math. Adam was made on the 3rd Day. EVERY other creature was created from the water on the 5th Day.

The 3rd Day was the SAME Day as the beginning or Big Bang of our Cosmos. Gen 2:4 which was 3 of God's Days ago, since we live today at Gen 1:27 on the present 6th Day because God is STILL creating Adam (mankind) Spiritually in Christ.

mm:>>Never mind that God said "after it's kid" that means nothing can produce anything other than after it's kind.

False, since the Scripture doesn't say "it's" except in an altered paraphrased version:

Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after Their kind, and every winged fowl after His kind: and God saw that it was good.

Don't you know the difference between Their kinds and His kinds? Go find a KJV.

mm:>>One species can not slowly evolve into another--that can only happen within their own species--all manner of dogs can interbreed and become a different breed. A dog can not become a pig. All types of horses can crossbreed--you can even cross a zebra with a donkey--but you can't cross a zebra with a giraffe. A lion and a tiger can crossbreed--and have, they're called ligers. But even when they can crossbreed, most can not reproduce, like mules can't. After it's kind is a direct command from God and nothing can alter that. Mad scientists can manipulate DNA, as they are experimenting with now, but it can't be done naturally. It's like this whole angels crossbreeding with humans thing---can't happen, they are not our kind. Won't see any humans running around with wings anytime soon, but I do love the special effects in Maleficent. Love pictures of Pegasus--beautiful--just not real. In spite of scientists lumping man and apes under "primates"---A woman cannot mate with a gorilla and produce a baby anything (they honestly have tried this!!). I choose to take God at His word and not come up with my own inventions.

Amen. However...Humans (HIS kind) and the sons of God (prehistoric people), who are THEIR kinds, or the kinds the Trinity created and brought forth from water, beginning some 3.77 Billion years ago in the water on Planet Earth, CAN produce children with each other. Gen 6:4 In this manner was Planet Earth populated with the 7 Billion Humans alive on Planet Earth today. It happened 11k years ago and here is the empirical historical literal EVIDENCE. http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/map00-fc.html That's God's Literal Truth. God Bless you

mmksparbud · Sep 27, 2015

(Gen 1:26) And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
(Gen 1:27) So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
(Gn 1:28) And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
(Gen 1:29) And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
(Gen 1:30) And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
(Gen 1:31) And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

6th day--not billions of years later--not one word about anything you say. I got to hand it to you though, you got the most vivid imagination! And nothing does deter you from it, not even the word of God Himself! And you keep quoting scriptures that do not say anything even remotely resembling any of your conjectures. Just give me the verse that states it took Him billions of years, the only thing that He does say is one day--one evening and one morning---how many billions of years did it take for the animals--since that also took billions of years, how long for the vegetation---also billions? Adam lived for billions of years without any animals---

Aman777 said:
Adam lived for more than 10 Billion years, in man's time, BEFORE the first creature was created from the Water on the 5th Day. Try to keep up with God's math. Adam was made on the 3rd Day. EVERY other creature was created from the water on the 5th Day.

(Gen 2:18) And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
(Gen 2:19) And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
(Gen 2:20) And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
(Gen 2:21) And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
(Gen 2:22) And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
(Gen 2:23) And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

You better let God know that He said it wrong--I mean, He says He formed "out of the ground every beast of the field and every fowl of the air"---doesn't say a word about water. And He's doesn't seem to be too bright, either, after all---it took Him billions of years to figure things out--now--verse 18 says it wasn't good for man to be alone and then says He will make a help meet for Him, but the very next verse says that He formed the creatures next and brought them to Adam--were they His help meet?--It's not until after Adam has named all these creatures (which took Him billions of years to get around to making)that God figures out Adam needs a woman and forms her from his rib---talk about solitary confinement! A whole planet and nobody and nothing around for billions of years!! Dang, it's a wonder he didn't go stark raving insane! And then He doesn't even bother to mention these prehistoric peoples at all---not one word about them! You need to rewrite the bible just as He actually did it, not as this silly old bible says--the world needs to know the real truth--write it out, so that we all can see the real order of things, so we all can figure out when physical and spiritual creatures are formed, cause God doesn't bother to mention a word about the spiritual and the physical--He seems to be confused and it sounds like He just formed the physical. Not to mention the fact that He forgot to mention that Adam and Eve were actually one being--Eve being Adam and taken from Adam.

Aman777 said:
Was she Adam? Of course. since God called THEIR name Adam (mankind) in the Day they were created in Christ Spiritually. Gen 5:2 What is interesting is that all Humans are part of mankind (Adam). Amen? googletag.cmd.push(function() { googletag.display('div-gpt-ad-1431698694306-1'); });

Aman777 said:
Don't you know the difference between Their kinds and His kinds? Go find a KJV.

Well---I guess not!! So, please fill me in on the real meaning! I usually do read the KJV--but I also like the other versions just to see what they have to say. nI also find the Jewish Mechanical Translation interesting.

mmksparbud · Sep 27, 2015

Genesis 2:18
and Yhwh the Elohiym said, it is not functional for the human to exist by himself, I will make for him a helper as his opposite,
Genesis 2:19
and Yhwh the Elohiym molded from the ground all the living ones of the field, and all the flyers of the skies, and he brought to the human to see what he will call out to him and all the living beings which the human will call out to him, that is his title,
Genesis 2:20
and the human called out the titles to all the beasts and to the flyers of the skies, and to all the living ones of the field, but for the human he did not find a helper as his opposite,
Genesis 2:21
and Yhwh the Elohiym made a trance fall upon the human and he slept, and he took a unit from his ribs and he shut the flesh under her,
Genesis 2:22
and Yhwh the Elohiym built the rib which he took from the human for a woman, and he brought her to the human,
Genesis 2:23
and the human said, this time it is bone from my bones and flesh from my flesh, for this, he will be called out woman given that from man this was taken,

I think it's interesting to see how the original reads. And they even have the original Hebrew also, it's just too long to post

http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/mt/translation1.html

mmksparbud · Sep 27, 2015

I tried to post the original Hebrew characters with it's corresponding translation but each character is read as an image and this site will not let me post even one verse as each character is read as an image and only 20 are allowed, I'll just post a little art to show what it looks like.

וַיַּעַשׂ

wai'ya'as
and~he~will~DO (Verb)
אֱלֹהִים

e'lo'him
Elohiym
אֶת

et
AT
חַיַּת

hhai'yat
LIVING

SkyWriting · Sep 27, 2015

Aman777 said:
Some teach that Adam was formed on the 6th Day but that is not Scriptural. Adam was "created" in God's Image or born again Spiritually on the 6th Day at the SAME time Eve was "created" Spiritually.

Since neither were ever fetuses this and other events suggest that time itself was not yet "turned on."
Eden was more of a early form of heaven than anything we call earth.
And then mankind was removed from the environment, permanently.

Aman777 · Sep 27, 2015

mmksparbud said:
(Gen 1:26)

(Gen 1:26) And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

God (Elohim-the Trinity), the invisible Spirit said. Let US (Trinity) make man in OUR Image (Christ). God has but One Image and that is the Image of Jesus Christ. Col 1:15

(Gen 1:27) So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.

See? God created man, made on the 3rd Day, Gen 2:4-7 in Christ Spiritually, on the 6th Day. In Christ created He him, male and female created He them.

Is God STILL creating Adam (mankind) Spiritually in Christ today? Of course He is. Just ask any preacher IF it's too late to be created in Christ Today. Since we live Today at Gen 1:27, the rest of Genesis 1 takes place AFTER Jesus returns at Armageddon.

(Gn 1:28) And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

This is a Future event which will take place in the thousand year reign of Christ on this Earth. At that time, Humans will be given dominion or rule over EVERY living thing that moves on this Earth. That includes Mosquitoes, Viruses and Sharks. It is something which has NEVER taken place on Planet Earth Before, as the next verses show:

(Gen 1:29) And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. (Gen 1:30) And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

Another future happening, except the end of this prophecy is clearly shown in:

Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

When you read the verse in context, this event happens AFTER Jesus returns to this Earth at Armageddon. Isa 11:1-7

(Gen 1:31) And God saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Finally God's Creation of the perfect 3rd Heaven is complete and Earth is Safe for a thousand years. Then, and only then, will the God, Who sees the end from the beginning, say, It is very good, at the end of the present 6th Day of labor in which God is making a perfect heaven and filling it with His Immortal Children, called Christians.

mm:>>6th day--not billions of years later--not one word about anything you say. I got to hand it to you though, you got the most vivid imagination! And nothing does deter you from it, not even the word of God Himself! And you keep quoting scriptures that do not say anything even remotely resembling any of your conjectures. Just give me the verse that states it took Him billions of years, the only thing that He does say is one day--one evening and one morning---how many billions of years did it take for the animals--since that also took billions of years, how long for the vegetation---also billions? Adam lived for billions of years without any animals---

Amen. Adam was made on the 3rd Day Gen 2:4-7 the SAME Day as the beginning of our Cosmos, which Science calls the Big Bang. (13.8 Billion years ago, in man's time) Adam's firmament was made on the 2nd Day. Gen 1:6-8 Our Cosmos and the 3rd Heaven were made on the 3rd Day, the SAME Day Adam's Earth was made Gen 1:10 and the SAME Day Adam was made. Here is the verse:

Gen 2:4 ¶ These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

See? This verse is taking us BACK to the 3rd Day and giving us more specific details which happened on the 3rd Day. Notice that other HeavenS (plural) were made. Our heaven or universe was made and the 3rd Heaven of ll Cor 12:2 was made. Then BEFORE the plants herbs and rain, the Lord God (YHWH/Jesus) made man of the dust of the ground and gave him life. Gen 2:7 In order to confirm that this verse is speaking of the 3rd Day, Notice that the Trees were made AFTER Adam. Gen 2:8-9 This is important since the Trees also GREW on the 3rd Day. Gen 1:12

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Adam lived for more than 10 Billion years, in man's time, BEFORE the first creature was created from the Water on the 5th Day. Try to keep up with God's math. Adam was made on the 3rd Day. EVERY other creature was created from the water on the 5th Day.

Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after Their kind, and every winged fowl after His kind: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. as I posted.

Since the command to make creatures from the Earth came AFTER the end of the 5th Day. Lord God/Jesus made other creatures from the ground. He molded them as a Potter molds the Clay with His own Hands, as He had made Adam some 10 Billion years before. Gen 2:7

Gen 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after His (Jesus) kind, and cattle after Their (Trinity) kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after His (Jesus) kind: and God saw that it was good.

Here are the details of the events at the beginning of the 6th Day when Jesus was carrying out the command of the Trinity in Gen 1:24:

(Gen 2:18) And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. (Gen 2:19) And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Wait a minute. Isn't this BEFORE Adam is created according to you? Of course it is which is WHY the ancient traditional view is in error. Adam was made the 3rd Day and he names the beasts of the ground and the birds which Jesus made with His own Hands at the beginning of the 6th Day.

(Gen 2:20) And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

How many Billions of years did it take to mold and shape an Eagle, gnats, and butterflies? According to Science it took Billions of years.

(Gen 2:21) And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

The FIRST operation is shown. Only God knew at the time, that it was possible for cut open a person, take all the DNA necessary and a little bone and make another person, and then close them back up THOUSANDS of years BEFORE Science. Amen?

(Gen 2:22) And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. (Gen 2:23) And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

BTW, the REASON Jesus waited so long to make Eve is that He knew that Eve would be tempted and that Adam's love and desire for her would cause Adam to sin. That is WHY Eve was made AFTER the other creatures some 12-15k years ago. Remember that Adam and Eve were in perfect bodies, like Christians will have in Heaven, in the likeness of Jesus, BEFORE the fall.

>>>>>>>>>>>Big Snip of disagreement with No Scriptural support.
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Was she Adam? Of course. since God called THEIR name Adam (mankind) in the Day they were created in Christ Spiritually. Gen 5:2 What is interesting is that all Humans are part of mankind (Adam). Amen?

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The address doesn't work. Since God called THEIR name Adam (mankind), I will take His Word over any man's.

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Don't you know the difference between Their kinds and His kinds? Go find a KJV.

mm:>>Well---I guess not!! So, please fill me in on the real meaning! I usually do read the KJV--but I also like the other versions just to see what they have to say. nI also find the Jewish Mechanical Translation interesting.

Me too, but when I want to find the meaning of the original words I use the KJV since it allows access to the Strong's meanings. This helps in any Study of God's Holy Word. God Bless you

SkyWriting · Sep 27, 2015

Aman777 said:
No, but i have their DNA and ERVs inside me. Can you explain HOW I got them?

DNA transfers due to diet have been documented and may be hugely more common than thought.
Horizontal DNA transfer due to viruses are well supported.
People eating raw fish have DNA from what they have eaten and it is passed to children.
The entire body of knowledge based on common ancestry may be an urban myth.

mmksparbud · Sep 28, 2015

Aman777 said:
See? God created man, made on the 3rd Day, Gen 2:4-7 in Christ Spiritually, on the 6th Day. In Christ created He him, male and female created He them.

Is God STILL creating Adam (mankind) Spiritually in Christ today? Of course He is. Just ask any preacher IF it's too late to be created in Christ Today. Since we live Today at Gen 1:27, the rest of Genesis 1 takes place AFTER Jesus returns at Armageddon.

I can't find the words that God created Adam and Eve Spiritually on the 6th day and physically on the 3rd day---. You keep saying it, and quoting the same scriptures but they do not say it. Adam and Eve were created perfect--which means they were physically and spiritually one and the same and quite perfect. When they disobeyed God, they broke the closeness between them and God and created the separation that can only now be restored after Christ's return.

Aman777 said:
(Gn 1:28) And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

This is a Future event which will take place in the thousand year reign of Christ on this Earth. At that time, Humans will be given dominion or rule over EVERY living thing that moves on this Earth. That includes Mosquitoes, Viruses and Sharks. It is something which has NEVER taken place on Planet Earth Before, as the next verses show:

Please state the verse that says this is a future event. This says that God blessed them and said to be fruitful and multiply. Are you saying that God is going to allow us to have sex without marriage during the 1000 year reign? Because Jesus said there is no marriage in heaven, we will be as the angels. And it has been stated countless times that in heaven there will be no viruses to have dominion over--nothing that can kill will be there as there is no death and no sickness. Just as when Adam and Eve were first made on the 6th day--there were no viruses, no depth, no sickness then either, that came with the fall when they disobeyed. which is exactly what this verses says happened. They had dominion over everything--but there was nothing evil to have dominion over until they sinned. They ate no meat--nothing died. All the animals ate the green herbs for meat also, just as this verse says. Right then and there--not one word about this being in the future, billions of years away.

Aman777 said:
(Gen 1:29) And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. (Gen 1:30) And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

Aman777 said:
How many Billions of years did it take to mold and shape an Eagle, gnats, and butterflies? According to Science it took Billions of years.

According to God--one day, man can come up with anything he wants--God says He did it in one day, nothing in the bible says it took billions of years.

Aman777 said:
BTW, the REASON Jesus waited so long to make Eve is that He knew that Eve would be tempted and that Adam's love and desire for her would cause Adam to sin. That is WHY Eve was made AFTER the other creatures some 12-15k years ago. Remember that Adam and Eve were in perfect bodies, like Christians will have in Heaven, in the likeness of Jesus, BEFORE the fall.

Scripture doesn't say God took billions of years before He made Eve. God knew Adam was going to fall whether it took 4 days or 4 billion years--so no need to have Adam sitting around for billions of years with nobody and no creatures--just all alone for those billions of years accomplished nothing--except it would have driven anyone bonkers from loneliness.

And again--nothing in the bible says God formed the animals from water--it says He formed them out of the ground.

Genesis 2:19
and Yhwh the Elohiym molded from the ground all the living ones of the field, and all the flyers of the skies, and he brought to the human to see what he will call out to him and all the living beings which the human will call out to him, that is his title,

Aman777 said:
Don't you know the difference between Their kinds and His kinds?
Go find a KJV.

Still haven't explained the difference--this is the verse you quoted, I'll re-quote in the Hebrew.

Genesis 1:21
and Elohiym fattened the great crocodile and all the living beings the treaders which swarm the waters to their kind, and all the flyers of the wing to his kind, and Elohiym saw that it was functional,

So what is the difference you are referring to??

Aman777 · Sep 28, 2015

SkyWriting said:
Since neither were ever fetuses this and other events suggest that time itself was not yet "turned on."
Eden was more of a early form of heaven than anything we call earth.
And then mankind was removed from the environment, permanently.

Time was turned on for God since He defined the first Day as a period of labor. God's time of His creation of the perfect physical Heaven begins with Gen 1:1.

Eden was like the Third Heaven will be for Christians. Like Adam, we will again be in our perfect physical bodies surrounded by a Shekinah Glory, like that of Jesus.

Sin separates us from the perfect God...but...God had Grace toward fallen mankind. He gave His only begotten Son so that Adam (mankind) could return to the perfect Heaven we knew BEFORE sin. It's the only way to have a perfect physical Heaven for Eternity. Jesus is LORD. God Bless you

Aman777 · Sep 28, 2015

SkyWriting said:
DNA transfers due to diet have been documented and may be hugely more common than thought.
Horizontal DNA transfer due to viruses are well supported.
People eating raw fish have DNA from what they have eaten and it is passed to children.
The entire body of knowledge based on common ancestry may be an urban myth.

Amen. From common ancestors, creatures change and adapt within their own kinds. Godless Evolution uses this mesurable change to begin it's Fantasy of Magical Evolution without the need of a Creator. It's foolishness and the biggest satanic lie in Human history. Evolutionists CLAIM they will change the ToE IF it is shown to be in error, but they don't and they won't, according to ll Peter 3:3-7 preferring instead to be "willingly ignorant" that Human life did NOT begin on Planet Earth, but on Adam's Earth which was totally destroyed in the Flood.

Aman777 · Sep 28, 2015

mmksparbud said:
I can't find the words that God created Adam and Eve Spiritually on the 6th day and physically on the 3rd day---. You keep saying it, and quoting the same scriptures but they do not say it.

It's your version of Scripture.

mm:>>Adam and Eve were created perfect--which means they were physically and spiritually one and the same and quite perfect. When they disobeyed God, they broke the closeness between them and God and created the separation that can only now be restored after Christ's return.

False. Adam's disobedience separated all mankind from the presence of the perfect God and caused death or darkness to come upon Human kind.

Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, (Greek-Humans) for that ALL have sinned:

mm:>>Please state the verse that says this is a future event. This says that God blessed them and said to be fruitful and multiply. Are you saying that God is going to allow us to have sex without marriage during the 1000 year reign? Because Jesus said there is no marriage in heaven, we will be as the angels. And it has been stated countless times that in heaven there will be no viruses to have dominion over--nothing that can kill will be there as there is no death and no sickness. Just as when Adam and Eve were first made on the 6th day--there were no viruses, no depth, no sickness then either, that came with the fall when they disobeyed. which is exactly what this verses says happened. They had dominion over everything--but there was nothing evil to have dominion over until they sinned. They ate no meat--nothing died. All the animals ate the green herbs for meat also, just as this verse says. Right then and there--not one word about this being in the future, billions of years away.

False and that is WHY man will NEVER have dominion or rule over ALL creatures until the Future event when ALL living creatures are changed into vegetarians Gen 1:30 which is AFTER Jesus returns to this Earth. You can read all about these FUTURE events of this time ON THIS EARTH in Isaiah 11:1-7.

mm:>>According to God--one day, man can come up with anything he wants--God says He did it in one day, nothing in the bible says it took billions of years.

The word Day it'self, in Hebrew, tells you the answer since Yowm means a period of time. It can be a 24 hour day, a lifetime or Eternity that the FUTURE 7th Day is.

mm:>>Scripture doesn't say God took billions of years before He made Eve. God knew Adam was going to fall whether it took 4 days or 4 billion years--so no need to have Adam sitting around for billions of years with nobody and no creatures--just all alone for those billions of years accomplished nothing--except it would have driven anyone bonkers from loneliness.

What would God get in a hurry? Since He lives forever, He took His time as the Creation shows. How long does it take to make the FIRST Bird of Paradise? Jesus was NOT restricted to 24 hours but spent Billions of years preparing common ancestors of birds for today's Godless Science to falsely ASSUME they evolved from Dinosaurs. Amen?

mm:>>And again--nothing in the bible says God formed the animals from water--it says He formed them out of the ground.

False as this verse describing the events of the 5th Day shows:

Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after Their kind, and every winged fowl after His kind: and God saw that it was good.

Since I have shown you this BEFORE, you know better.

Genesis 2:19
and Yhwh the Elohiym molded from the ground all the living ones of the field, and all the flyers of the skies, and he brought to the human to see what he will call out to him and all the living beings which the human will call out to him, that is his title,

mm:>>Still haven't explained the difference--this is the verse you quoted, I'll re-quote in the Hebrew.

Genesis 1:21
and Elohiym fattened the great crocodile and all the living beings the treaders which swarm the waters to their kind, and all the flyers of the wing to his kind, and Elohiym saw that it was functional,

So what is the difference you are referring to??

I told you that the command to make creatures from the ground came AFTER all the living creatures were made from the water on the 5th Day. Here is the verse:

Gen 1:24 ¶ And God said, Let the earth (ground) bring forth the living creature after His kind, (Jesus kind) cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after His (Jesus) kind: and it was so.

God commanded Jesus to make the beasts of the field and the birds and creeping things from the dust of the ground. Jesus made them with His own Hands and that is WHY they are HIS kinds, instead of Their (Trinity) kinds. His kinds can also produce children with THEIR kinds. Gen 6:4 God Bless you

mmksparbud · Sep 28, 2015

I was making hubby some caramel, pecan cinnamon rolls, odd time for this to happen---- all of a sudden these thoughts flashed across my mind--

(2Ti 3:5) Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

And I realized a few things---I've considered this conversation mostly just as a lark, a rather entertaining diversion. No offense, but, it's hard for me to take this all that seriously as it makes absolutely no sense to me. However, I really didn't see any harm in it. Till this. And I finally saw that this verse if very much what you are about. You talk God and scripture, but you really are denying the power of God. God's word is power--

(Psa 33:9) For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.
(Gen 1:3) And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
(Gen 1:6) And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
(Gen 1:7) And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
(Gen 1:9) And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
(Gen 1:11) And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
(Gen 1:14) And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
(Gen 1:15) And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so
(Mar 4:39) And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
(Joh 11:43) And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.
(Joh 11:44) And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.

God spoke a world into existence--at the command of His voice, the sea calms--What God says is--period. He doesn't lie, He can't lie--If He says the sky is green, it would immediately turn green, He created the laws of physics--if He says 2+2=5--then it is 5. He called Lazarus from the dead--it was immediate, if He hadn't said Lazarus, every grave would have opened. If you Google "sound" you get a lot of info about what they are learning about sound waves--the power of sound.
And that is what God is--All Powerful. He doesn't need billions of years for His word to be obeyed--it is instant. What you do is deny His has this power. And what is worse, you try to tell others, that He doesn't do what the bible says, that He did not speak a world into existence. You are calling the power of His word a lie.

(Gen 3:3) But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
(Gen 3:4) And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

God says He created the world in 6 days--you say He didn't, it took billions of years. In your embarrassment of the word of God you prefer to believe man, scientists, and you try to make His word say what they say so you don't need to be ashamed, so you do not need to be embarrassed by saying you believe what the bible says and 6 days is 6 days, and you try to make it say what is not there. The bible says He created the animals from the ground, you say it was from water because that is what scientists say--"Denying the power thereof"--His word says--He spake and "it was so"--not He spake and it will be so.
To deny His power is to deny who God is.
(Mat 10:33) But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

(2Ti 3:5) Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
And that is what I will do.

Aman777 · Sep 28, 2015

mmksparbud said:
I was making hubby some caramel, pecan cinnamon rolls, odd time for this to happen---- all of a sudden these thoughts flashed across my mind--

(2Ti 3:5) Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

And I realized a few things---I've considered this conversation mostly just as a lark, a rather entertaining diversion. No offense, but, it's hard for me to take this all that seriously as it makes absolutely no sense to me. However, I really didn't see any harm in it. Till this. And I finally saw that this verse if very much what you are about. You talk God and scripture, but you really are denying the power of God. God's word is power--

(Psa 33:9) For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.
(Gen 1:3) And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
(Gen 1:6) And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
(Gen 1:7) And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
(Gen 1:9) And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
(Gen 1:11) And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
(Gen 1:14) And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
(Gen 1:15) And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so
(Mar 4:39) And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
(Joh 11:43) And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.
(Joh 11:44) And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.

God spoke a world into existence--at the command of His voice, the sea calms--What God says is--period. He doesn't lie, He can't lie--If He says the sky is green, it would immediately turn green, He created the laws of physics--if He says 2+2=5--then it is 5. He called Lazarus from the dead--it was immediate, if He hadn't said Lazarus, every grave would have opened. If you Google "sound" you get a lot of info about what they are learning about sound waves--the power of sound.
And that is what God is--All Powerful. He doesn't need billions of years for His word to be obeyed--it is instant. What you do is deny His has this power. And what is worse, you try to tell others, that He doesn't do what the bible says, that He did not speak a world into existence. You are calling the power of His word a lie.

(Gen 3:3) But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
(Gen 3:4) And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

God says He created the world in 6 days--you say He didn't, it took billions of years. In your embarrassment of the word of God you prefer to believe man, scientists, and you try to make His word say what they say so you don't need to be ashamed, so you do not need to be embarrassed by saying you believe what the bible says and 6 days is 6 days, and you try to make it say what is not there. The bible says He created the animals from the ground, you say it was from water because that is what scientists say--"Denying the power thereof"--His word says--He spake and "it was so"--not He spake and it will be so.
To deny His power is to deny who God is.
(Mat 10:33) But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

(2Ti 3:5) Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
And that is what I will do.

Thanks for allowing me to show others that two Christians do NOT need to agree on the details in order for both of them to be Christians. Christians are saved by our Faith, in Jesus, which is a Gift of God, and not by agreement with the details of the Bible. It's the same way with ALL Christians and I thank you again for helping me to show this. God Bless you

-57 · Sep 29, 2015

Aman777 said:
No, but i have their DNA and ERVs inside me. Can you explain HOW I got them?

Just one question? Where did Eve come from? Was she made from Adam?

-57 That's what the bible says...

Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. (Hebrew-Adam)

Was she Adam? Of course.

-57 No, she was not Adam...she was taken from Adam.

since God called THEIR name Adam (mankind) in the Day they were created in Christ Spiritually. Gen 5:2 What is interesting is that all Humans are part of mankind (Adam). Amen?

-57 All humans are progeny of Adam and Eve. There was no pre-historic human race that evolved from primates. That's what the bible teaches. You've been shown that on several occasions.

n2thelight · Sep 30, 2015

Actually Adam was formed on the 8th day

Male and Female of all races were created on the 6th day....

Aman777 · Nov 4, 2015

-57 All humans are progeny of Adam and Eve. There was no pre-historic human race that evolved from primates. That's what the bible teaches. You've been shown that on several occasions.[/QUOTE]

False. "Every living creature that moveth" was created and brought forth from the water on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21 Science AGREES and shows that prehistoric people have left their bones on Planet Earth for some 6 million years BEFORE Noah arrived.

Humans (descendants of Adam) were formed of the dust of the ground on the THIRD Day Gen 2:4-7 long before life came forth from the water at God's command on the 5th Day. After Adam disobeyed, he and Eve were found in bodies of flesh instead of the perfect bodies they had before the fall. Their bodies of flesh were EXACTLY like the bodies of the sons of God (prehistoric people) who had their origin in water instead of the dust.

What is important is that Humans (descendants of Adam) and the sons of God (prehistoric people) could have children together. Gen 6:4 In this way, Planet Earth was filled with Humans (descendants of Adam). Amen?

Aman777 · Nov 4, 2015

n2thelight said:
Actually Adam was formed on the 8th day

Male and Female of all races were created on the 6th day....

Sorry, but God has only 7 Days/Ages and the 7th is Eternity. Amen?

Aman777 · Nov 12, 2015

Chronology of the Creation by Days:

Before the Day...The invisible Spirit of Love speaks and heaven/air, and earth/ground without form, or dust, and water appears. With these three Creation elements everything physical will be made.

Day 1, God speaks and Jesus/YHWH or Lord God comes into the physical world from within the invisible Spirit as the ONLY God ever formed physically.

Day 2, Jesus and the Father make a solid firmament which totally surrounds Adam's Earth and protects it from the water into which it is placed. Gen 1:6-8

Day 3, Jesus and the Father twist water from under the firmament and put it inside the firmament. Gen 1:10 It makes a sound which God calls Seas, which in Hebrew means "a roaring". Then the dry land appears on top of the water making Adam's Flat Earth. Then Jesus makes Adam from the dust and then makes the plants and trees of the Garden where He places Adam.

Day 4, Jesus takes some of the air, dust, and water and inflates it making our Cosmos and when the matter cools at the end of the 3rd Day, He lights the Stars of our world at the beginning of Day 4, long AFTER Adam was made on the first Earth.

Day 5, God creates "every living creature that moveth" from the water on the 3rd Day, which was 3.77 Billion years ago, in man's time. This also explains WHERE Cain's prehistoric wife came from....as well as the wives of Noah's grandsons, on our Planet.

Day 6, Jesus makes the beasts of the field and birds and Adam names them and then, finally, Jesus makes Eve from Adam's ribs, some 12-15k years ago. Adam sins, Cain kills Abel, and Adam and Eve are "CREATED" in God's Image which is in Jesus Christ Spiritually. They are created ETERNALLY and are as sure for heaven as Jesus. God is STILL creating Adam (mankind) in Christ today, which means that we still live at Gen 1:27 and we will NOT advance to the Prophecy of Gen 1:28-31 until Jesus returns to rule and reign here for a thousand years. Amen?

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