Males do not become bride of Christ. The Church becomes (is) bride of Christ. It is through it's female elements that it can be a bride, is that not the truth of what a bride is?
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Males do not become bride of Christ. The Church becomes (is) bride of Christ. It is through it's female elements that it can be a bride, is that not the truth of what a bride is?
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Matthew 22:30 is simply saying that in heaven, we will never be married to anyone.
The concept of the church being the "bride of Christ" is NOT literal. It is just a figure of speech of the eternal union of the like spirits. It's like being reunited with a long-lost relative, like a mother or a father or a sibling. It's a joyous occasion with hugs and celebration and some tears (of joy).
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The bride is revealed in Revelation, its a big city that descends from the new heaven.
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Merely "like spirits"?
Or perhaps liking spirits, or better "loving spirits" indeed in the Spirit of Love. Not that there is sexual intercourse, but the spirit thereof to the end of Holy Ghosting ONENESS.
In other words a more rapturous unity than merely reunion with a long-lost relative.
Total orgasmic fillment seemeth more heavenly to me. Rev. 22:17: "The Spirit and the bride say, Come."
{@ Michael, literal cities do not speak like that; the Church may be seen to be like a city.}
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I certainly mean what I said about "like spirits". Spirits who are related to each other like under a family....They all hum and dance to the same tune....
This is more like the spark that unites best friends and runs deeper than blood relations.... Of course, our best friend could also be our blood relative.
I wouldn't want to use the word "rapture". If you research the meaning of "rapture", it originally had a bad meaning. It is another word for being kidnapped or abducted or spirited away or even possessed. The word rapture is on the same level as murder.
That is why modern meanings of rapture tends to be like being "carried away" by happiness or so.. or overwhelmed by something good.. But they all share something similar, a lost of control and sensibility.
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Your "liking" is not what I think God is about. The impulse of love is much greater that that, and certainly more of God, I would say.
Rapturousness is what I have in mind, the total sensibility of [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. (NOT loss of sensibility.)
I am talking today, using the words with their present meanings. Not trying to do a history lesson. So the business about murder,etc. is crap.
"Overwhelmed by something good" is exactly what I mean to suggest about the presence of God, heaven.
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I have a friend who's Christian and uses the female pronoun to refer to God. "She". "Her word". Like that.
Nice catch you have there. The Bible says God is a spirit.
The gender identity I'd attribute to the patriarchal system that organized the religion of God in Christ. And oversaw the compiling of what is the Canon. Male dominated culture tends to use male identifiers for deity.
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There's a pretty good reason why pilots of commercial aircraft don't have [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] in the critical phases of take-off and landing...
This is proof that your logic has gone south.
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LOVE the dog!
I have a friend who's Christian and uses the female pronoun to refer to God. "She". "Her word". Like that.
Nice catch you have there. The Bible says God is a spirit.
The gender identity I'd attribute to the patriarchal system that organized the religion of God in Christ. And oversaw the compiling of what is the Canon. Male dominated culture tends to use male identifiers for deity.
There were many references to God in the Bible being female despite being called a "He". Logically, this might mean God is both male and female. But if we exclude the Patriarchal biases of "proto-Christianity", then what we have is a female God.
Ironically, two major religions in our world made the same mistake. The other big religion I won't mention, also thinks their God is male....but the symbol they are using is ironically, the same symbol for the Queen of Heaven and they have no idea!
It just goes to show and prove most religious people are "blind". "A blind leading another blind...."
The feminine God is asserting herself in the last days. Careful what you think God is, you might indeed be "raptured" away. Just be sure you leave your houses and cars and planes nice and clean!
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I think that's a mistake, a very fundamental mistake, to call God "She."LOVE the dog!
I have a friend who's Christian and uses the female pronoun to refer to God. "She". "Her word". Like that.
Nice catch you have there. The Bible says God is a spirit.
The gender identity I'd attribute to the patriarchal system that organized the religion of God in Christ. And oversaw the compiling of what is the Canon. Male dominated culture tends to use male identifiers for deity.
I often say "E," and I think I partly do it because at one time I thought it was a nice equality of the sexes for the pronouns "He" and "She." Now I find it a shorter form of "He" (only), since I wish to be sure not to transgress the idea of the Christ (man) and the Church (bride).
It seems to me spirit is (and must be?) based on sex. The Spirit of God is the spirit of love, of loving, and is that not most manifest in sex? So although there is no transcendent Creator God having a penis (or vagina) and in that sense God is pure spirit, as Christians we have the promise of Christ (God) and His Church bride, and Holy Ghost of Loving image (of God). The "male and female" image.
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Oh yah sure, being in heaven (or in a pew for that matter) is like piloting a plane? Where would you ever have gotten such "logic," such an idea?
I think we all could function pretty well in church having [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse], er, in heaven I mean of course.
"Keep your clothes on in church!" is my favorite command. (They're washable.)
By the way, how do YOU know pilots don't have [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] at those times? Are you sure that is the case for all pilots? A great amount of omniscience thou must have!
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Genesis describes Elohym as a hermaphrodite (male & female), and before Eve was extracted from Adam he too was a hermaphrodite;
The words הוא (hwoo), and היא (hee) from which the words 'he' and 'she' are translated were not originally gender based terms, they simply meant 'person, individual, (some-) one, etc.,
It was not until Babylonian captivity that attempts were made to unify the many diverse qualities of the native tongue to a single formalized standard.
For example the words בעל (Baal), אדני (adonai), and 'Lord' all mean precisely the same, 'husband, master, owner, lord, etc.' a translater must chose from these definitions to make their translation, relying on the context to make their determination;
However, by the example which Elohym provides in Jeremiah 1:11 we know that all of the meanings of a word are applicable, not just the one's we intend, or are able to perceive; meaning, when you say Lord, you are also implying husband, master, owner, etc., this is what heaven teaches us.
Elohym created Adam in His image, and after His likeness Male & Female, and called Him Adam (Man), thus a Male is only a portion of a Man, and a female is only a portion of a Man;
"The Male is head of the female, and Christ is head of Man (the combined male & female), and Elohym (the Father) is head of Christ"
In each case בעל (baal) translates differently, i.e. a male is a 'husband' to his wife, Christ is 'lord' to the man, and Elohym is 'master' of Christ, these are all the same word in the native biblical language;
A man sows his seed in a woman and out of her two leaved gate comes a son of man;
Elohym sows his word-seed in our hearts, and out of our two leaved gate-lips comes the Son of Elohym-the Word of Elohym;
The root of the word 'Testament' is testis, as in testicles, the two faithful witnesses;
I hope that helps some!
The words הוא (hwoo), and היא (hee) from which the words 'he' and 'she' are translated were not originally gender based terms, they simply meant 'person, individual, (some-) one, etc.,
It was not until Babylonian captivity that attempts were made to unify the many diverse qualities of the native tongue to a single formalized standard.
For example the words בעל (Baal), אדני (adonai), and 'Lord' all mean precisely the same, 'husband, master, owner, lord, etc.' a translater must chose from these definitions to make their translation, relying on the context to make their determination;
However, by the example which Elohym provides in Jeremiah 1:11 we know that all of the meanings of a word are applicable, not just the one's we intend, or are able to perceive; meaning, when you say Lord, you are also implying husband, master, owner, etc., this is what heaven teaches us.
Elohym created Adam in His image, and after His likeness Male & Female, and called Him Adam (Man), thus a Male is only a portion of a Man, and a female is only a portion of a Man;
"The Male is head of the female, and Christ is head of Man (the combined male & female), and Elohym (the Father) is head of Christ"
In each case בעל (baal) translates differently, i.e. a male is a 'husband' to his wife, Christ is 'lord' to the man, and Elohym is 'master' of Christ, these are all the same word in the native biblical language;
A man sows his seed in a woman and out of her two leaved gate comes a son of man;
Elohym sows his word-seed in our hearts, and out of our two leaved gate-lips comes the Son of Elohym-the Word of Elohym;
The root of the word 'Testament' is testis, as in testicles, the two faithful witnesses;
I hope that helps some!
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You are going somewhere far and you need to book a flight... You are presented with two airlines going exactly the same route, same time, same price, etc.....But they have one difference:
Airline AOur pilots have [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] during take offs and landing!
Airline BOur pilots don't have [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] while inside the plane in all phases of the flight.....
Which airline will you book your flight on??
BTW, the Holy Ghost and me knows everything, thank you!
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Your revision of the pilots story is still totally irrelevant to what might happen in the communion of heaven, Thee Kingdom. Ecstasy would be an in flight experience, on autopilot probably, if one wanted to make a bit of applicable sense of your idea.You are going somewhere far and you need to book a flight... You are presented with two airlines going exactly the same route, same time, same price, etc.....But they have one difference:
Our pilots have [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] during take offs and landing!
Our pilots don't have [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] while inside the plane in all phases of the flight.....
Which airline will you book your flight on??
BTW, the Holy Ghost and me knows everything, thank you!
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A couple of cute ideas, but pretty heretical and ultimately they don't make much sense. The part that particularly is true is the general rule of human reproduction, "A man sows his seed in a woman"; that correctly indicates there is a true and total woman who is impregnated, not "some portion of a man." Genesis is talking about the creation of the human, that both a man and a woman were created, two very separate entities, able to unite and gestate the unity of egg and sperm.
God the Father does not have a penis and certainly not any elements of a vagina, as would be the case for any real hermaphrodite. The Son incarnates (as) a male.
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