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I don't think my motivations are petty or personal.

Didn't mean to imply that. Mine just often are. I don't always realize it at the time. Usually when I respond to people, I start to reflect on myself and the whole post can become a mess.

I definitely agree with you on politics. I believe it is needed in this world, but as it is now and has been for long, it's often just a show while the real stuff happens behind the curtains. Politicians can't show us God. Many worship politicians, pop stars, you name it. It can become another religion for many. In the end it's a weird, deceitful popularity contest where things are bought and sold. While I may still vote, I won't trouble myself too much with politics. Not worth it.

About fellowship with unbelievers, I have friends who probably don't believe. I won't abandon them, but I will try to show them an example. They know I believe in God, and if they ever want to talk to me about it, I'll be ready. But that's not what you meant, is it?
 
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Didn't mean to imply that. Mine just often are. I don't always realize it at the time. Usually when I respond to people, I start to reflect on myself and the whole post can become a mess.

I definitely agree with you on politics. I believe it is needed in this world, but as it is now and has been for long, it's often just a show while the real stuff happens behind the curtains. Politicians can't show us God. Many worship politicians, pop stars, you name it. It can become another religion for many. In the end it's a weird, deceitful popularity contest where things are bought and sold. While I may still vote, I won't trouble myself too much with politics. Not worth it.

About fellowship with unbelievers, I have friends who probably don't believe. I won't abandon them, but I will try to show them an example. They know I believe in God, and if they ever want to talk to me about it, I'll be ready. But that's not what you meant, is it?

The fellowship with unbelievers that i referred to was meant to be in a certain context. Im referring to the worlds politics and media. When we follow politics and media we are in fellowship with them. I didnt mean we can not be friends with them, but just that we cannot share the same beliefs because we will allow ourselves to be lead astray from the path of holiness. People can say that they wont stray, but in truth they have already strayed if they follow politicians. Politics are a lie and so we follow lies. Politics are about trying to run and judge the outside world but thats not our job, thats Gods job. God wants us to be separate from the world. If we understand how politics work then we can see that its not useful to us. If we look at how Christ and the apostles lived, we will see that they had nothing to do with worldly matters such as politics. Anyway, its not a popular position that i hold, but its the truth as i see it. This is straying off topic though, i guess. IF you want to respond further please do, but i must let you have the last word if you do, please feel free to disagree if you want, i wont debate it.
 
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The fellowship with unbelievers that i referred to was meant to be in a certain context. Im referring to the worlds politics and media. When we follow politics and media we are in fellowship with them. I didnt mean we can not be friends with them, but just that we cannot share the same beliefs because we will allow ourselves to be lead astray from the path of holiness. People can say that they wont stray, but in truth they have already strayed if they follow politicians. Politics are a lie and so we follow lies. Politics are about trying to run and judge the outside world but thats not our job, thats Gods job. God wants us to be separate from the world. If we understand how politics work then we can see that its not useful to us. If we look at how Christ and the apostles lived, we will see that they had nothing to do with worldly matters such as politics. Anyway, its not a popular position that i hold, but its the truth as i see it. This is straying off topic though, i guess. IF you want to respond further please do, but i must let you have the last word if you do, please feel free to disagree if you want, i wont debate it.

I fully agree with your analysis brother we can't serve two gods. I don't vote nor hold a preference for any political party, if I was forced to vote I would vote for Jesus. I simply refuse to bow down to any one else.
 
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There is only one name by which to enjoy salvation - Jesus Christ - He is victorious over sin and can subdue our sinful desires. Not only that He is the truth of our entire life and He raises from the death, that which we lost including our child(hood). His loving touch is making everything new inside of us - just as His Word is saying.

We can live this process on two fronts however.

We can have life in the truth of His Word and we can have life in the reality of the lie, both are depicted, and the fate of each is described in The Word.

Depression can also be experienced with God or without Him. Without Him we perish, with Him we become stronger than depression and get back on our feet again much richer than we were before. Time and again if need be!

What does it matter that we have to mine deep? Look what a treasures it unearths? I have gained enormously because of depression. Things like love for God's truth and His goodness, humbleness, long suffering, patience, endurance, hope, love, meekness, forgiveness, joy and so much grace. All kind of precious stones in the kingdom of Heaven and well worth acquiring.

If you struggle with depression never give up but find consolation in His loving truth and let His Word guide you. He will lead you to streams of living waters.

Isaiah 32:1-4
See, a king will reign in righteousness
and rulers will rule with justice.
Each one will be like a shelter from the wind
and a refuge from the storm,
like streams of water in the desert
and the shadow of a great rock in a thirsty land.



Then the eyes of those who see will no longer be closed,
and the ears of those who hear will listen.
The fearful heart will know and understand,
and the stammering tongue will be fluent and clear.
 
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There is only one name by which to enjoy salvation - Jesus Christ - He is victorious over sin and can subdue our sinful desires. Not only that He is the truth of our entire life and He raises from the death, that which we lost including our child(hood). His loving touch is making everything new inside of us - just as His Word is saying.

We can live this process on two fronts however.

We can have life in the truth of His Word and we can have life in the reality of the lie, both are depicted, and the fate of each is described in The Word.

Depression can also be experienced with God or without Him. Without Him we perish, with Him we become stronger than depression and get back on our feet again much richer than we were before. Time and again if need be!

What does it matter that we have to mine deep? Look what a treasures it unearths? I have gained enormously because of depression. Things like love for God's truth and His goodness, humbleness, long suffering, patience, endurance, hope, love, meekness, forgiveness, joy and so much grace. All kind of precious stones in the kingdom of Heaven and well worth acquiring.

If you struggle with depression never give up but find consolation in His loving truth and let His Word guide you. He will lead you to streams of living waters.

Isaiah 32:1-4
See, a king will reign in righteousness
and rulers will rule with justice.
Each one will be like a shelter from the wind
and a refuge from the storm,
like streams of water in the desert
and the shadow of a great rock in a thirsty land.


Then the eyes of those who see will no longer be closed,
and the ears of those who hear will listen.
The fearful heart will know and understand,
and the stammering tongue will be fluent and clear.


That's the way i see it also. We can have depression with or without God. Depression for me has been a blessing after i decided to see it that way. The apostle paul said that whenever he is weak then he is strong. HE apparently waited on the Lord in times of distress and suffering, i assume he was waiting for the Lords strength to carry him through. There are many scriptures that teach us to wait on the Lord until he strengthens us, and i believe that's what paul was doing as well.


The NKJV actually uses the word strength while other versions say power. Regardless of the word used i think it is referring to strength, and power.

2 Corinthians 12:9 And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
 
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I do apologize for my recent weakness, not because i was weak but in case i was needlessly offensive in any way to anyone. One thing seems sure and that is we must walk in love which is meek, kind and gentle, humble and merciful. Please forgive me if i offended anyone in anyway. I dont always say things in best way, and i often wished i would have, after the fact.
 
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That's the way i see it also. We can have depression with or without God. Depression for me has been a blessing after i decided to see it that way. The apostle paul said that whenever he is weak then he is strong. HE apparently waited on the Lord in times of distress and suffering, i assume he was waiting for the Lords strength to carry him through. There are many scriptures that teach us to wait on the Lord until he strengthens us, and i believe that's what paul was doing as well.


The NKJV actually uses the word strength while other versions say power. Regardless of the word used i think it is referring to strength, and power.

2 Corinthians 12:9 And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

Amen, amen brother I hold your words close to the chest, a very special blessing to be loved by Jesus, isn't it? Who can measure His love? Who can understand His Ways? The King of kings and Lord of lords also when it comes to depression. He turned my desolation into something beautiful. A hiding place. My Refuge is there. That is where I can cry in total safety. That is where the miraculous happens, bad produces good, what better victory than that?

He is Victorious, we may witness this truth, that we may always walk in His truth, that's my goal, for only He is good.

Ponder on this dear brother

Ezekiel 47:1-12
The man brought me back to the entrance to the temple, and I saw water coming out from under the threshold of the temple toward the east (for the temple faced east). The water was coming down from under the south side of the temple, south of the altar. He then brought me out through the north gate and led me around the outside to the outer gate facing east, and the water was trickling from the south side.

As the man went eastward with a measuring line in his hand, he measured off a thousand cubits and then led me through water that was ankle-deep. He measured off another thousand cubits and led me through water that was knee-deep. He measured off another thousand and led me through water that was up to the waist. He measured off another thousand, but now it was a river that I could not cross, because the water had risen and was deep enough to swim in—a river that no one could cross. He asked me, “Son of man, do you see this?”

Then he led me back to the bank of the river. When I arrived there, I saw a great number of trees on each side of the river. He said to me, “This water flows toward the eastern region and goes down into the Arabah, where it enters the Dead Sea. When it empties into the sea, the salty water there becomes fresh. Swarms of living creatures will live wherever the river flows. There will be large numbers of fish, because this water flows there and makes the salt water fresh; so where the river flows everything will live. Fishermen will stand along the shore; from En Gedi to En Eglaim there will be places for spreading nets. The fish will be of many kinds—like the fish of the Mediterranean Sea. But the swamps and marshes will not become fresh; they will be left for salt. Fruit trees of all kinds will grow on both banks of the river. Their leaves will not wither, nor will their fruit fail. Every month they will bear fruit, because the water from the sanctuary flows to them. Their fruit will serve for food and their leaves for healing.”:bow::bow::bow:
 
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I do apologize for my recent weakness, not because i was weak but in case i was needlessly offensive in any way to anyone. One thing seems sure and that is we must walk in love which is meek, kind and gentle, humble and merciful. Please forgive me if i offended anyone in anyway. I dont always say things in best way, and i often wished i would have, after the fact.

No reason at all to apologise you honestly lived what you where going through and shared this with us a little, perfectly fine with me. You're a great guy in my books, I love honesty.

Peace.
 
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Amen, amen brother I hold your words close to the chest, a very special blessing to be loved by Jesus, isn't it? Who can measure His love? Who can understand His Ways? The King of kings and Lord of lords also when it comes to depression. He turned my desolation into something beautiful. A hiding place. My Refuge is there. That is where I can cry in total safety. That is where the miraculous happens, bad produces good, what better victory than that?

He is Victorious, we may witness this truth, that we may always walk in His truth, that's my goal, for only He is good.

Ponder on this dear brother

Ezekiel 47:1-12
The man brought me back to the entrance to the temple, and I saw water coming out from under the threshold of the temple toward the east (for the temple faced east). The water was coming down from under the south side of the temple, south of the altar. He then brought me out through the north gate and led me around the outside to the outer gate facing east, and the water was trickling from the south side.

As the man went eastward with a measuring line in his hand, he measured off a thousand cubits and then led me through water that was ankle-deep. He measured off another thousand cubits and led me through water that was knee-deep. He measured off another thousand and led me through water that was up to the waist. He measured off another thousand, but now it was a river that I could not cross, because the water had risen and was deep enough to swim in—a river that no one could cross. He asked me, “Son of man, do you see this?”

Then he led me back to the bank of the river. When I arrived there, I saw a great number of trees on each side of the river. He said to me, “This water flows toward the eastern region and goes down into the Arabah, where it enters the Dead Sea. When it empties into the sea, the salty water there becomes fresh. Swarms of living creatures will live wherever the river flows. There will be large numbers of fish, because this water flows there and makes the salt water fresh; so where the river flows everything will live. Fishermen will stand along the shore; from En Gedi to En Eglaim there will be places for spreading nets. The fish will be of many kinds—like the fish of the Mediterranean Sea. But the swamps and marshes will not become fresh; they will be left for salt. Fruit trees of all kinds will grow on both banks of the river. Their leaves will not wither, nor will their fruit fail. Every month they will bear fruit, because the water from the sanctuary flows to them. Their fruit will serve for food and their leaves for healing.”:bow::bow::bow:


A very well timed scripture brother. I enjoyed it very much, thank you.
 
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(HNV)Jer 29:10 For thus says the LORD, After seventy years are accomplished for Babylon, I will visit you, and perform my good word toward you, in causing you to return to this place.
Jer 29:11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you hope and a future.
Jer 29:12 You shall call on me, and you shall go and pray to me, and I will listen to you.
Jer 29:13 You shall seek me, and find me, when you shall search for me with all your heart.
Jer 29:14 I will be found by you, says the LORD, and I will turn again your captivity, and I will gather you from all the nations, and from all the places where I have driven you, says the LORD; and I will bring you again to the place from where I caused you to be carried away captive.


Maybe Prophet Jeremiah was also a patient of Depression. What a miserable thing to watch his people Judah captive by his own eyes. If Judah listened to the prophets and preformed righteousness and mercy, or God would regret and do not punish Judah and Ephraim as actually. But the book of Jeremiah was fired by the king, and the destruction of the Holy Temple and City really happened in the sight of Jeremiah. He said may his eyes be the spring of tears to cry for his people Israel. But there was still hope, God would set the captive free and bring them back to the holy city, and the holy temple would be rebuilt! (That reminds me that Jesus talked about his death and resurrection)

Coming into the history as if I myself were one of Jeremiah’s people, my country Israel was destroyed, I cry with them. More association of ideas, as a Chinese I also feel distress that Chinese are captive by ungodly people, and as a patient of depression, I am captive by the devils who want to destroy me. But the good news is God would like to set us free and rebuild us, as Jeremiah prophesied. Jeremiah did not see his captive people come back, he was killed earlier, but by faith he rejoiced. How fortunately I can or will see the captive free, whoever they are Israelites, Chinese, many others, and myself! God is so gracious to listen to our applications!
 
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(HNV)Jer 29:10 For thus says the LORD, After seventy years are accomplished for Babylon, I will visit you, and perform my good word toward you, in causing you to return to this place.
Jer 29:11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you hope and a future.
Jer 29:12 You shall call on me, and you shall go and pray to me, and I will listen to you.
Jer 29:13 You shall seek me, and find me, when you shall search for me with all your heart.
Jer 29:14 I will be found by you, says the LORD, and I will turn again your captivity, and I will gather you from all the nations, and from all the places where I have driven you, says the LORD; and I will bring you again to the place from where I caused you to be carried away captive.


Maybe Prophet Jeremiah was also a patient of Depression. What a miserable thing to watch his people Judah captive by his own eyes. If Judah listened to the prophets and preformed righteousness and mercy, or God would regret and do not punish Judah and Ephraim as actually. But the book of Jeremiah was fired by the king, and the destruction of the Holy Temple and City really happened in the sight of Jeremiah. He said may his eyes be the spring of tears to cry for his people Israel. But there was still hope, God would set the captive free and bring them back to the holy city, and the holy temple would be rebuilt! (That reminds me that Jesus talked about his death and resurrection)

Coming into the history as if I myself were one of Jeremiah’s people, my country Israel was destroyed, I cry with them. More association of ideas, as a Chinese I also feel distress that Chinese are captive by ungodly people, and as a patient of depression, I am captive by the devils who want to destroy me. But the good news is God would like to set us free and rebuild us, as Jeremiah prophesied. Jeremiah did not see his captive people come back, he was killed earlier, but by faith he rejoiced. How fortunately I can or will see the captive free, whoever they are Israelites, Chinese, many others, and myself! God is so gracious to listen to our applications!


Yes we will see the captives free! Your people will be freed from tyranny as well. Jesus is going to change everything upside down. Where the first are last and the lasst are first. An awesome prospect!

We can be captive to our sins as well, real slavery can be our lot when we give our desires to the wrong force. It are often not our desires that are sinful within themselves - food, clothing, housing, sex, and consumption of consumables are all permitted in the bible but in the proper perspective not in a wrong one.

Our desires become wrong when we serve them above the truth of the Lord, the job at hand is to serve God with our desires - all flesh shall serve the Loes - is a very good description of that fact.

So let Jesus set us free from sinful desires and teach us to feed our needs through His love and find safety in His truth. Jesus will end the slavery and bring us back out of exile and will teach us to serve the Lord with a God fearing heart.

The first step is to die to our wrong desires and begin to thank Jesus whenever our desires are fed and so let Him rebuild us into new and free people. Free means we can have something and we can leave it as well - whatever serves God better.

So yes let us understand that sin is a heavy burden to carry but that Christ can renew us if we ask and submit to His love. Where bad is done away with and good springs up in its place.

So if you find that you have desires in wrong know that dying to the wrong will change what is bad now to good. For Jesus will discipline us in wrong and wipe out the sinful thoughts and emotions attached to the sinful desire and turn it into right. Where what was bad before becomes good now. It is about learning to trust and submit to the truth of God and leaving the lies that keep us captive behind that sets us free.

So please brothers and sisters if bad sins have you captive then know that confessing these sins to Christ and bringing the wrongdoer within us before His face, asking Jesus to kill us in bad and transform us into good, is the way to go. Where we begin to serve The Lord with our flesh instead of rebelling against Him. In this way Jesus can really set us free from even very stubborn and foolhardy sins.

To serve Jesus, also with our flesh, is the aim of walking with and in Christ.

1 Corinthians 10:23-33
“I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but not everything is constructive. No one should seek their own good, but the good of others.

Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, for, “The earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it."


If an unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience. But if someone says to you, “This has been offered in sacrifice,” then do not eat it, both for the sake of the one who told you and for the sake of conscience. I am referring to the other person’s conscience, not yours. For why is my freedom being judged by another’s conscience? If I take part in the meal with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of something I thank God for?


So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God. Do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks or the church of God— even as I try to please everyone in every way. For I am not seeking my own good but the good of many, so that they may be saved.
 
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Depression has everything to do with what you eat! No! Not just food! Though it can be a factor. Much rather spiritually.

Let's explore some common foods in t' depressed diet.
Loveless voice within brings us,

hopelessness,
despair,
bitterness,
anger,
hate,
scorn,
mockery,
accusations,
sadness,
weakness,
tiredness,
laziness,
emptiness,
loneliness,
and so much fear!
All together utter misery - all of these negatives at the same time playing the havoc of death inside our soul, as we die to good life and begin to get in desperate want - for these 'weeds' are no good as food they make us sick and good deeds are not found among them.

That is what happens when we eat from these fruits, which we meet on our way, we become spiritually ill!

Good fruits to eat are;
T' truthfully loving voice to follow,
producing truthfully,
faith,
love,
hope,
humbleness,
kindness,
gentleness,
self-control,
peace,
rest,
joy,
determination,
long suffering,
and fearless heart.

They produce good works in the kingdom of God which has to do with the personal state of our heart and mind and what that produces, not anything religious expectation might enforce from us, but works prepared beforehand by God that we should walk in them. For eating good produces good deeds as well and a truthfully loving peaceful inner reality that can endure anything depression can throw at it.

Romans 8:28-39,
And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.

What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? As it is written:

“For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.



No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 
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If I hadn't believed in the resurrection of the dead I would've perish in my afflictions. That's for sure!

For years I had no good life, the love of life had all died in me, many are still dead, though much has risen already. I am amazed at the vastness of my inner being. From birth to now, only 55 years old, but having had life in lots of different spirituality, a spirituality is a purpose - spirit driven - that results in a deed. In the end we will be judged according to dead. Are we in the truth of God? Produce good and upright in service of one another, faithfully communing with the truth of thousands of years ago, still the same as always. A righteous God who loves us to be honest and open, caring and sharing. A God who burns us in our selfish, greedy, lustful or dishonest times of our lives and hands us over to the destroyer. All so He can reap a better harvest than wrongdoing and out of wrong make right. An amazing feat the only God can achieve with any kind of integrity. And so we die to wrong and learn to do right. That is why I love Him so much, He deserves our worship!

Jesus is an most An Awesome God, who simply was, is and is to come, the Almighty. Growing His Kingdom into me, He Himself in Spirit of love and truth growing within my heart in both understanding and real Godly presence, an awesome thing to behold. Who am I to give dwelling to God? In every way I fall short. Never can I make the mark. I will always be a child of His, even when I grow up. He is from Eternity.

Inside my inner being everyday new life/deed is born and old life/deed dies. I had never understood it this way. We are all miniature images of God walking around. Moses recorded The Word faithfully all those years ago - we are in His image. However unlike God we are not pure but impure, not true but untrue destined to die when we meet the truth. This happens spiritually all the time - and physically as well in the end we fall over and die, if no other mishap occurs that robs us of our lives beforehand. We can never know what may befall us.

So at all time we need to learn to walk in His truth. With our whole inner being. A massive undertaking and will take a thousand years to complete. However Eternity is past, present and future, so at no stage do we have to miss out once we meet Jesus we meet completion inside of us as well. The whole inner assembly in the Great Assembly that is how that works.

It is good for us to understand ourselves as Israelites living in Israel in our faith. Especially when love for God and neighbour rules our hearts and minds and the kingdom of David is growing within us, such is no fantasy but very real and totally true to prophecy in both old and new testament. Let Jesus imprint the book of Ezekiel or the book of Revelation on your heart, for example, and see what you get in the end, an awesome Kingdom! Though birthing is often very painful, life with Him is great!

And so we can talk about the many as one, and understand the spiritually we have life in God's Being and that we are a part in Him, and like Him are eternally I am who I am - that is both a threat and a promise - to myself as well.:amen: Once you have really done something bad - like hating another person, God or ourselves - or have other life in wrong - how can you escape if you keep doing wrong - so when we find wrong inside of us then we have to love that part in us to God and preach to ourselves in wrong into the truth of God. Honest the more life in the living Word we get, the more stubborn sin in us begins to trample the outer courts of the great temple in Jerusalem - all so it can perish out of us and Jesus can make something good come out of bad - time and again.

So please brothers and sisters take it from me, when the loving truth of God begins to dwell into our hearts then we will begin to see how complex we are, and how awesome God's salvation is. God's loving truth comes through only one deed! Loving God's truth - believing that Jesus is The Son of God, and that He comes and dwells in our hearts when we humbly love God and neighbour, (as well as ourselves.) Love God's truth covers over a multitude of sins, it surely keeps us safe from the destroyer.

I highly recommend Him as Saviour of your heart.

(Reflecting Hebrews 4:1-13)

Raptured

I thought I been a good person all my life
yet I was also stuck with cold loveless strife
for much in me had little faith in God's grace
as my loveless ways had kept me from His Face.

In my bad life I was untrue and insincere
weak and hopelessly overcome by my fear
I didn't believe God would love me as well
always believing what the inner liars tell.

Oh these massive hailstones pounding me
considering how bad I had turned out to be
fire and brimstone following my inner despair
for of loving truth I hadn't taken any care.

Where is your God my tormentors jeered
the bottomless pit opening as they sneered
my good life stolen from me as I fell down
my godlessness now with misery me to drown!

Unbearable was the agony as I met sinners fate
flames of torment untrue and loveless sin berate
self hate upping the temperature so very high
gnashing of teeth and wailing my constant cry

And so I languish in torment pondering my fate
still wondering how come I had been to late
doubting unbelief and unforgiven sin my misery
As I watched myself turn completely ungodly.

My Hell was an Endless Torturous Night.
that comes to all with bad life inside
where one's untrue and loveless deeds
now constant fire and brimstone reaps.

After seven years The Truth came down to me
for only God's Grace could reach into my misery
and so my bad life the goats in charge could keep
As Jesus came and collected me in all my sheep.

Awakened to the truth I arose from the dead
God's breath of loving truth entering me instead
a fast army arose as Ezekiel prophesied to my soul
His blinding light directing me to my new goal.

And so I flew up to meet Him in the wink of an eye
Heart piercing wails from the rule of the lie
raging Hell poured down on where I had been
Father' holy wrath burning evil so very mean.

Jesus beaming smile betrayed no harm
will for wrong simply died in His loving charm
and so He also baptised me with holy fire
His loving truth tending my every hearts desire.

144,000 holy ones Jesus brought from above
rebuilding my heart in His Kingdom of love
teaching me The Way to do things right
forever denying evil wrong ruling me inside.
 
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It is the love of Christ that saves us from the truth of what we have done to Him. Everyone will mourn Jesus, especially in our believing self, we will wail the One we have Crucified, because we thought Him accursed, our very good life we surrendered to the wolves - and we are all guilty!

Yet He rose, the story is so true! Spiritually the word of God is far more powerful then literally. When we find New life, then we find it in Him and as we go down in our flesh, we rise to meet Him in spirit who sits on the clouds and we are judged. Either eternal life or eternal damnation, it all depends on the spirituality ruling us and our deed, whether it was good or bad.

Like the Word has always said - sin shall not enter Heaven - so we are filtered by the great I AM - all dirt washed off - life in lies dies - and life in His loving truth grows - just as the word told us from the beginning.

The great part of being a believer is that we are given the chance to repent in our wrong life - as sinners we can come to Him, to be washed and changed by Him, where what is crooked is made straight - an unbelievable integral undertaking that Jesus is fully qualified to take upon Himself to complete successfully time and again.

So no - wrong doesn't escape judgement - as some accuse Jesus off forgiving our sins - rather such spirituality dies inside of us and meets judgement - however Jesus gives new life/spirituality in its place - and so still comes good to His Word and saves us from our bad life.

This process is not just an one off, though for parts of ourselves this is so, we are much more than one deed a day - it has to do with what spirituality we have life in. In bad spirituality such as hopelessness, despair, misery, dishonesty, guilt, shame, bitterness, rage, lovelessness and fear - as well as greed, hate, arrogance, human pride, unjust, gossipers, and t' selfish heart - we die! In death the great separation takes place - one is taken - one is left behind - and so Jesus collects the fallen sinner - while sending the wilful sinner off to hell. An awesome undertaking, because where we repented, and there after suffered evil, we find grace, but where we enjoyed doing wrong, there we meet judgement! Jesus is so graceful, it is truly awesome to be saved by Him, though you don't want to meet Him when you have not trusted in His name. It is very embarrassing to be found naked.
I certainly got court out naked big time:blush1::blush1::blush1: Inside of my heart were only a few ready for Jesus - much in my heart was numbered to go. I had expected Him on the clouds of the sky above me - and not on the clouds of Heaven! Heaven is a spiritual place - it is from there that He comes back first of all, as He promised us in John 14, but at the time I had no inkling of that and was unbelievable surprised to meet Jesus inside of my own awakening heart.

I learned the hard way - not recommended - truly Jesus is a Rock - no unclean part of us will get past Jesus, it is simply not possible, for we have to go through Him - only in His Spirituality will we find New Life, in our old spirituality we die.

This is more than a life long process - this will take 1000 years to complete - so we best be prepared for the long haul - His Kingdom is awesome, and so free! The earth belongs to the Lord and everything in it - the meek inherit the earth - is so true. Will the die-hard greedy ones gnash their teeth or what? We have all been warned I suppose. The have nots are so much richer than those who have much - that much is clear as crystal to me - time and again.

So if bad life is oppressing you - go to Jesus while you are in your bad life and lay your life down before Him. Honestly He will set you free from the bad spirituality hurting you and give you new life - time and again. Where one by one you enter Heavenly places, the last first and the first last, just as Jesus has foretold.

Be of very good courage and sow love for God and neighbour in your heart for that is how you will meet Him the quickest. When you begin to fulfil His love command then He comes, with His Father in Spirit into your hearts and will make His dwelling there. He will wipe away all your tears and His truth shall set you free!

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Oh Come, Glorious Judgement!

Judgement Day begins when you meet up with Jesus,
He will search out your heart completely,
dividing the sheep from the goat!

He will address your inner lovelessness with His love,
and chase the clinging coldness away,
from death setting your soul wholly free!

Truly Judgement Day, is a day of ecstatic joy,
freedom for all those hurting and killed,
Only His Loving Truth ruling your inner reality.

Bad religion shall no longer cause any bother,
As His loving joy now finds deeper root,
Lush growth replacing all the deadness!

Yet Judgement Day will be the end of your fear,
As no terror may travel on The Way,
All of you in union, praising the Lamb!

Your big I, gets new function in the rear,
Loving Jesus ruling as king in place!
You loving our Heavenly Father dearly.

In all your life's deeds The Son you'll meet,
Answerable for all that you have done,
In good and bad His truth visiting you!

Judgement Day is about being rightly placed,
good and loving upfront - to B(b)e -
all bad behind - passing away!
 
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The way of life
The righteous perish
at the hand of the wicked
selfishness rules
instead of humble spirit
lawlessness instead of honesty

The righteous die within
but no one takes notice
that bad life has being
while good life been crucified
isn't the truth always true?

Faith in Jesus' love
repents from wicked rule
overcoming the wicked
no need doubting the truth
He is totally trustworthy.
 
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I try to surrender my anxious heart and mind back into His truth. When peace returns then I know I'm back in His truth again.

Isn't it amazing how His love cast out our fears? And isn't amazing how one in us is taken and one in us remains behind? Time and again I find that - yet there is peace between the two! His amazing grace reaps a harvest in us, even when we fail to sow His good life, the Chosen rise even as the dragon is trying to devour them. Revelation 12:1-2

I reckon we are all female spiritually when it comes to our fleshly nature. The sons and daughters of God are the ones we give birth to spiritually. Isaiah 54 tells us about this. In this life we can produce children of glory, or children of the lawless ones, it depends if we are faithful to Jesus or not.

For example, if I entertain hate inside of me - apart of hating evil - then I have one of those lawless evildoers as my spiritual father dwelling inside of me. With hate on-board I will produce deeds/spiritual children that are evil and lawless in nature.

Hate produces hatred against God, other people, or other creatures, religions, or cultures, or people from the other (or same) sex, race, age or socio-economic back grounds, places, food or drink or even colours. Hate pollutes us in countless ways and will bring misery around. The sure outcome of the activity of the destroyer, false prophet and prostitute within us.

Now we have lots of lawless ones within our spiritual reality, once I made up a bit of a list of them all in my blog, it turned out to be four articles long but for those who are curious have a look and see if you can think of a few more, there are heaps of those evil ones around within our spiritual dwelling place.

(I suggest you begin in article one as the blog opens on article four, just scroll down a bit.)

http://www.christianforums.com/xfa-blogs/jeshu.105433/

We can have large amounts of offspring in wrong. The families - nations - of our inner world of being. All build because we believed the lies of the wicked. It can be a very treacherous place within our inner world of being. Where the wicked rule there is always misery as a result of our actions. To seek out His truth and find dwelling in Him is our way out.

Please remember that the righteous in us also make up a nation - namely Israel. Twelve tribes making up the full number of the elect - as recorded in the book of Revelation. Indeed the bible teaches us completely spiritually, and cycles through us like wheels within wheels, lightening fast, and utterly incorruptible. Always achieving the outcome as has been written beforehand. Jesus, The Living Word, is completely faithful when He goes to work inside of us and repays us according to our deeds.

Now life in His truth grows us a new heart where the offspring of the wicked in us come to faith and repent of being evil - psalm 22:27-31 - and enter into the kingdom of God. Which is a kingdom of peace and rest as everything within us is purified and made holy, ready to rule with Him over life, a rule for eternity.

No matter how hard depression presses, His love keeps us safe and spiritually (re-)productive. If you haven't already done so then please put your faith in His loving truth and let it transform you into newness of life.

(Do find your life in Jesus' truth today!)

Psalm 22
My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Why are you so far from saving me,
so far from my cries of anguish?
My God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer,
by night, but I find no rest.



Yet you are enthroned as the Holy One;
you are the one Israel praises.
In you our ancestors put their trust;
they trusted and you delivered them.
To you they cried out and were saved;
in you they trusted and were not put to shame.



But I am a worm and not a man,
scorned by everyone, despised by the people.
All who see me mock me;
they hurl insults, shaking their heads.
“He trusts in the Lord,” they say,
“let the Lord rescue him.
Let him deliver him,
since he delights in him.”



Yet you brought me out of the womb;
you made me trust in you, even at my mother’s breast.
From birth I was cast on you;
from my mother’s womb you have been my God.



Do not be far from me,
for trouble is near
and there is no one to help.



Many bulls surround me;
strong bulls of Bashan encircle me.
Roaring lions that tear their prey
open their mouths wide against me.
I am poured out like water,
and all my bones are out of joint.
My heart has turned to wax;
it has melted within me.
My mouthd is dried up like a potsherd,
and my tongue sticks to the roof of my mouth;
you lay me in the dust of death.



Dogs surround me,
a pack of villains encircles me;
they pierce my hands and my feet.
All my bones are on display;
people stare and gloat over me.
They divide my clothes among them
and cast lots for my garment.



But you, Lord, do not be far from me.
You are my strength; come quickly to help me.
Deliver me from the sword,
my precious life from the power of the dogs.
Rescue me from the mouth of the lions;
save me from the horns of the wild oxen.



I will declare your name to my people;
in the assembly I will praise you.
You who fear the Lord, praise him!
All you descendants of Jacob, honor him!
Revere him, all you descendants of Israel!
For he has not despised or scorned
the suffering of the afflicted one;
he has not hidden his face from him
but has listened to his cry for help.



From you comes the theme of my praise in the great assembly;
before those who fear you I will fulfill my vows.
The poor will eat and be satisfied;
those who seek the Lord will praise him—
may your hearts live forever!



All the ends of the earth
will remember and turn to the Lord,
and all the families of the nations
will bow down before him,
for dominion belongs to the Lord
and he rules over the nations.



All the rich of the earth will feast and worship;
all who go down to the dust will kneel before him—
those who cannot keep themselves alive.
Posterity will serve him;
future generations will be told about the Lord.
They will proclaim his righteousness,
declaring to a people yet unborn:
He has done it!



 
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Where is Jesus my Lord?
Oh Jesus where are you?
I'm so lonely and small
The forces of darkness
are advancing.

Oh Jesus where are you?
My life feels so dead
all goodness is gone
death is awaiting me.

Oh Jesus where are you?
I'm trying to love
but judgement is still
How can I escape?

Oh Jesus where are you?
This world is so cruel.
Hate rules, birthing
so much violence.

Oh Jesus where are you?
must we meet in death?
Is there no other way?
Who praises you from the grave?

Oh Jesus where are you?
If not in the bible?
You are the Word of God.
The living Word to heed.

Oh Jesus there you are!
Right within me
with me all this time
Why hadn't I seen that?

Oh Word of God I love You.
You are always with me
right inside my dwelling place
dining with me.
 
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A colour coded poem that ought to be read according to colour before verses to get my direction of thought correctly

A time to live a time to die


I'm destined to die today,

I can see no other way
for me to possibly say
Hallo

The truth will cut me down,
though I can't see Him now,
soon He will come and
become.

Why did I cherish wrong?
how stupid can one be?
its burning me now
within

I have life in suffering lies!
what good do I serve?
I die so He can be
God.
 
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I always find it weird what a transition takes place when I live in this 'removed from Him reality' or what I know to be the spirit of this world, or in His awareness when He dwells close by and counsel and delights me with His presence. Strange how I can have life in light and in darkness, and very sobering to know that God will require an account of both sides in me.

I for one, am not going to mourn any goats in me, where darkness is what my spirit brings forth, rather than creating light. Oppressing, imprisoning, deceiving, and even killing the sheep in me, bringing judgement upon themselves and upon me.

I love it when the word comes and cuts me down and turns things upside down and sets me free again from my enemies.

Matthew 25:31-46
“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’


“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’


“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’


“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’


“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’


“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’


“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”


Isn't it striking that spiritually this process happens a lot of times throughout our walk of life? Each individual sin Jesus has cleansed in me had goats as well as sheep present within me - in some spirituality I was punished and in some spirituality I received my promised allotment.

Daniel 12:1-3 explains it nicely as well focussing on the resurrection of the dead (also true within us spiritually.)

“At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever.

Well have you ever met the truth inside a part of you that was stuck with lies and you were suffering the wicked and then the truth came and set you free? That is when the resurrection of the dead can be affirmed and the freeing of the prisoners beheld - amazing how bright His light shines in the hearts of those who have known the bad side of darkness and have been liberated by Christ.

Isn't it a miracle? For years I suffered the wicked but now He has lifted me up above my enemies and even when suffering is bad they have not regained their thrones of rule within me. Cut off and in chains they await the final judgement, while I walk free glorifying Jesus! The power of His Word is beyond comprehension and His love and compassion over me is better than life.

Are you stuck with a life of darkness and suffer the wicked. Please read the bible personally with a believing, loving and hoping heart and the rider on the white horse will certainly come and set you free. Revelation 19

Have a look how God explains that process to the prophet Ezekiel!


Ezekiel 37:1-14
The hand of the Lord was on me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the Lord and set me in the middle of a valley; it was full of bones. He led me back and forth among them, and I saw a great many bones on the floor of the valley, bones that were very dry. He asked me, “Son of man, can these bones live?”

I said, “Sovereign Lord, you alone know.”


Then he said to me, “Prophesy to these bones and say to them, ‘Dry bones, hear the word of the Lord! This is what the Sovereign Lord says to these bones: I will make breath enter you, and you will come to life. I will attach tendons to you and make flesh come upon you and cover you with skin; I will put breath in you, and you will come to life. Then you will know that I am the Lord.’”


So I prophesied as I was commanded. And as I was prophesying, there was a noise, a rattling sound, and the bones came together, bone to bone. I looked, and tendons and flesh appeared on them and skin covered them, but there was no breath in them.


Then he said to me, “Prophesy to the breath; prophesy, son of man, and say to it, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Come, breath, from the four winds and breathe into these slain, that they may live.’” So I prophesied as he commanded me, and breath entered them; they came to life and stood up on their feet—a vast army.


Then he said to me: “Son of man, these bones are the people of Israel. They say, ‘Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.’ Therefore prophesy and say to them: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: My people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel. Then you, my people, will know that I am the Lord, when I open your graves and bring you up from them. I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the Lord have spoken, and I have done it, declares the Lord.’”


Aren't the promises of God's Word awesome? When we have faith in His truth and walk n His love then we can be assured that His Spirit will revive us, making us stronger than depression can bring to bear and setting us free from our constrains

I know that depression can be very bad, but in His truth suffering bad life qualifies us as inheritors of His good life. Like Jesus says in the sermon of the mount blessed are those who mourn, blessed are those who are poor of spirit, blessed are those who are persecuted because they stand up for what is right. Suffering depression is all about things like that.

So battle on dear suffers and put your faith in God's love and see that the light will erase the darkness and set you free spiritually no matter how ill you might be physically, spiritually you shall flourish.

Be of very good courage for this is what Jesus promises to those who find life in His truth.

Isaiah 61:1-3
The Spirit of the Sovereign Lord is on me,
because the Lord has anointed me
to proclaim good news to the poor.
He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
to proclaim freedom for the captives
and release from darkness for the prisoners,
to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor
and the day of vengeance of our God,
to comfort all who mourn,
and provide for those who grieve in Zion—
to bestow on them a crown of beauty
instead of ashes,
the oil of joy
instead of mourning,
and a garment of praise
instead of a spirit of despair.
They will be called oaks of righteousness,
a planting of the Lord
for the display of his splendor.
 
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I love the Lord because He loved me first. I hated and despised myself the day He came and stood stark naked before His sight. How could I escape? All my inner leaders who did not administer justice within and without died first. Agonising those scorpion stings when I was reminded off my guilt being like that and then seeing how Jesus was, is and will always be. Completely loving, completely just, completely humble, completely friendly and good and kind and gentle to those in me who were hurting evil but very different to those in me who caused the pain to be so severe. It was a day of darkness for all those who pulled the strings in darkness within my heart and mind, and many of those who look forward to the day of the Lord were killed when He did, they believed lies about Jesus and before the day they met they hadn’t seen Him, nor did they ever obey Him. Boy they I make a fool of myself in them and how good it was to be freed from such lies ruling my heart and mind. The Word of God set me free - time and again - through its truths.

Especially the book of Revelation is a personal journey from sinful self incapable of doing any lasting good into a son or daughter of God, who is very able and can stand his or her ground, and under duress where other people commit suicide they still bring forth good. Earning themselves treasures in Heaven doing such things and entering into His Rest one by one.

Other spirituality that will come and attack is selfishness. Each sin in us is stained by that. The sons and daughters of lawlessness will come out. They talk wrong right and right wrong and abound in sinful acts rather than find salvation from it. Very dangerous spirituality selfishness, he has been a very strong king in my life. One the end of the line while you burn your misdeeds agonising your demise and gnashing your teeth. God's truth is great for the righteous but not for the wicked. Evil spirituality in us will not go to Heaven but will perish along the way. No matter how well they hide Christ's light will reveal them.

Lets see what the prophet Isaiah wrote about what God has to say to His sinful children and what we receive in them and what the righteous in us inherit and what we receive in them.

Isaiah 57
The righteous perish,
and no one takes it to heart;
the devout are taken away,
and no one understands
that the righteous are taken away
to be spared from evil.
Those who walk uprightly
enter into peace;
they find rest as they lie in death.:amen::amen::amen:



But you—come here, you children of a sorceress,
you offspring of adulterers and prostitutes!
Who are you mocking?
At whom do you sneer
and stick out your tongue?
Are you not a brood of rebels,
the offspring of liars?:preach::preach::preach:


You burn with lust among the oaks
and under every spreading tree;
you sacrifice your children in the ravines
and under the overhanging crags.
The idols among the smooth stones of the ravines are your portion;
indeed, they are your lot.
Yes, to them you have poured out drink offerings
and offered grain offerings.
In view of all this, should I relent?
You have made your bed on a high and lofty hill;
there you went up to offer your sacrifices.
Behind your doors and your doorposts
you have put your pagan symbols.
Forsaking me, you uncovered your bed,
you climbed into it and opened it wide;
you made a pact with those whose beds you love,
and you looked with lust on their naked bodies.
You went to Molek with olive oil
and increased your perfumes.
You sent your ambassadors far away;
you descended to the very realm of the dead!
You wearied yourself by such going about,
but you would not say, ‘It is hopeless.’
You found renewal of your strength,
and so you did not faint.



“Whom have you so dreaded and feared
that you have not been true to me,
and have neither remembered me
nor taken this to heart?
Is it not because I have long been silent
that you do not fear me?
I will expose your righteousness and your works,
and they will not benefit you.
When you cry out for help,
let your collection of idols save you!
The wind will carry all of them off,
a mere breath will blow them away.
But whoever takes refuge in me
will inherit the land
and possess my holy mountain.”


And it will be said::preach:

“Build up, build up, prepare the road!
Remove the obstacles out of the way of my people.”
For this is what the high and exalted One says—
he who lives forever, whose name is holy:
“I live in a high and holy place,
but also with the one who is contrite and lowly in spirit,
to revive the spirit of the lowly
and to revive the heart of the contrite.
I will not accuse them forever,
nor will I always be angry,
for then they would faint away because of me—
the very people I have created.
I was enraged by their sinful greed;
I punished them, and hid my face in anger,
yet they kept on in their willful ways.
I have seen their ways, but I will heal them;:amen::amen::amen:


I will guide them and restore comfort to Israel’s mourners,
creating praise on their lips.

Peace, peace, to those far and near,”
says the Lord. “And I will heal them.”:bow::bow::bow:


But the wicked are like the tossing sea,
which cannot rest,
whose waves cast up mire and mud.
“There is no peace,” says my God, “for the wicked.”:help::help::help:


You don't want to fall into the hands of the living Word when you are wicked. When you don't suffer the wicked but have gone to bed with them. (Unless you are sorry that you have done that, then you will survive) Jesus is the Rider on The White Horse. His Name is the Word of God and out of His mouth comes a double edge sword. To set free those bound by evil but also to cut the oppressors asunder. An epic process, but truly Jesus Christ is the Liberator. When you meet up with Jesus in Revelation 1 then you know that you will arrive 7 years later in Revelation 20 a completely different person than you once were, ruling beside Jesus and dwelling in God's Rest and the wicked pulling the strings in your heart will have been cut down in chapter 19 as wrong is done away with.
 
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