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Homosexuals in Abusive relationships, any thoughts?

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Honestly, I am not trolling. Occasionally I wonder about a walking partner I had over 30 years ago. He was in a very abusive homosexual relationship. Went to bed with a loaded gun under his pillow for fear that his alcoholic partner would kill him in his sleep, through one of his rages. He was isolated. Though he had family they had disowned him. He felt very trapped, and hopeless, just as heterosexuals feel in the same circumstances. I loved him as a friend, and never knew what happened to him, when we moved. He stated, "there are safe houses for abused women, but none for people like me".
As a Christian community, is there anything we should do, for people like this in so much pain???
 

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Honestly, I am not trolling. Occasionally I wonder about a walking partner I had over 30 years ago. He was in a very abusive homosexual relationship. Went to bed with a loaded gun under his pillow for fear that his alcoholic partner would kill him in his sleep, through one of his rages. He was isolated. Though he had family they had disowned him. He felt very trapped, and hopeless, just as heterosexuals feel in the same circumstances. I loved him as a friend, and never knew what happened to him, when we moved. He stated, "there are safe houses for abused women, but none for people like me".
As a Christian community, is there anything we should do, for people like this in so much pain???
Yes take him in your home if there are no stay away homes for men. I don't think think there are such homes for hetero men either.
Show some real christian love.
One former homosexual man said it was easier to get sex on the street than a hug in church.
 
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I once saw a program of Ted Haggart. How the church treated him. Insane. If a hetero leader falls for adultery the church helps him and counsels him.
 
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Of course we shall remain in deep prayer, however discussions about homosexuality is a prohibited topic.

Praying...:prayer:
I didn't know homosexuality was prohibited. In "search" there shows up posts? Maybe they should be deleted?
 
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Yes take him in your home if there are no stay away homes for men. I don't think think there are such homes for hetero men either.
Show some real christian love.
One former homosexual man said it was easier to get sex on the street than a hug in church.
This was 30 years ago I have lost touch with him. Maybe there should be places for abused men. I've known 1 whose wife would tie him in bed while he was drunk then beat him. Also, love should be shown to them in Church without compromising Gods Word. Both may overcome they behavior.
 
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I once saw a program of Ted Haggart. How the church treated him. Insane. If a hetero leader falls for adultery the church helps him and counsels him.
I don't understand why hetero adultery is more accepted/tolerated than homosexual fornication. Aren't both equal in the eyes of our Holy Father???
 
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I don't understand why hetero adultery is more accepted/tolerated than homosexual fornication. Aren't both equal in the eyes of our Holy Father???
Yes but people think it's worse and it makes them feel better about themselves.
 
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People in abusive relationships are the same no matter what their preference. Get out! Seek refuge. Seek counseling. Prosecute. NEVER go back. Never accept the lie, baby I'm sorry. It'll never happen again.
It should have never happened the first time. Something is missing in the person that beats their partner the first time. First for that victim is not the first time that abuser has raised a hand to someone. Don't ever stay! When someone blackens your eye, breaks your skin with a punch, harms you, rapes you as a lover or spouse, that's who they are! You're just seeing it because they arrived at the level of rage where the mask they put up to hide that about themselves couldn't be maintained.
If you're harmed in that way GET OUT! Because every time that fist falls, that slap lands, that hair is pulled, that abuser, male or female, is telling you one thing. They want to beat you to death!
And they won't stop hurting you until you stop moving! GET OUT! Because love doesn't make you bleed!
When they say after that, baby I love you! Remember that punch, that slap, that hair pull, that stomping. Blend those memories with those three worthless lying words to get the first clue! Let me show you an example:

Baby, I love to hit you with my fist. Baby I love to backhand you across the room. Baby I love to put my size 12 1/2 into your chest and stomp you into the floor over and over till you black out. Baby I love to rip the hair out of your scalp so that you have bloody skin patches where those blond natural curls use to be.

Baby I'm sorry! And I'll never do it again!
You're right! They will NEVER do it again if you leave as soon as your able. If you have to crawl and it takes half a day because he went to work and tore the phone out of the wall so you'd have no one to call and no means to. If you can walk out, walk out. If you have to dive through a window because he's nailed them shut to keep you home bound and put the locks to the house on the outside and a key dead bolt on the inside, and he keeps the key under his pillow when you sleep, dive through the window, covering your head between both folded arms to protect the veins in your neck. Hit the ground and run and scream to the top of your lungs for help.

And NEVER EVER EVER GO BACK. Because it's better to wear a bandage for your troubles after you've escaped, than to wear a new dress or suit in your coffin because you believed he'd never do it again. When you're dead he'll keep his promise!

And this isn't the proper forum for this query.

Honestly, I am not trolling. Occasionally I wonder about a walking partner I had over 30 years ago. He was in a very abusive homosexual relationship. Went to bed with a loaded gun under his pillow for fear that his alcoholic partner would kill him in his sleep, through one of his rages. He was isolated. Though he had family they had disowned him. He felt very trapped, and hopeless, just as heterosexuals feel in the same circumstances. I loved him as a friend, and never knew what happened to him, when we moved. He stated, "there are safe houses for abused women, but none for people like me".
As a Christian community, is there anything we should do, for people like this in so much pain???
 
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People in abusive relationships are the same no matter what their preference. Get out! Seek refuge. Seek counseling. Prosecute. NEVER go back. Never accept the lie, baby I'm sorry. It'll never happen again.
It should have never happened the first time. Something is missing in the person that beats their partner the first time. First for that victim is not the first time that abuser has raised a hand to someone. Don't ever stay! When someone blackens your eye, breaks your skin with a punch, harms you, rapes you as a lover or spouse, that's who they are! You're just seeing it because they arrived at the level of rage where the mask they put up to hide that about themselves couldn't be maintained.
If you're harmed in that way GET OUT! Because every time that fist falls, that slap lands, that hair is pulled, that abuser, male or female, is telling you one thing.
They want to beat you to death!
And they won't stop hurting you until you stop moving! GET OUT! Because love doesn't make you bleed!
When they say after that, baby I love you! Remember that punch, that slap, that hair pull, that stomping. Blend those memories with those three worthless lying words to get the first clue! Let me show you an example:
Baby, I love to hit you with my fist. Baby I love to backhand you across the room. Baby I love to put my size 12 1/2 into your chest and stomp you into the floor over and over till you black out. Baby I love to rip the hair out of your scalp so that you have bloody skin patches where those blond natural curls use to be.
Baby I'm sorry! And I'll never do it again!
You're right! They will NEVER do it again if you leave as soon as your able. If you have to crawl and it takes half a day because he went to work and tore the phone out of the wall so you'd have no one to call and no means to. If you can walk out, walk out. If you have to dive through a window because he's nailed them shut to keep you home bound and put the locks to the house on the outside and a key dead bolt on the inside, and he keeps the key under his pillow when you sleep, dive through the window, covering your head between both folded arms to protect the veins in your neck. Hit the ground and run and scream to the top of your lungs for help.
And NEVER EVER EVER GO BACK. Because it's better to wear a bandage for your troubles after you've escaped, than to wear a new dress or suit in your coffin because you believed he'd never do it again. When you're dead he'll keep his promise!
And this isn't the proper forum for this query.

Very good advice...Something else that may happen also abuse(physical, mental, sexual) of the children.Hope your Post will warn someone, no matter what their sex or sexual preference is, of the warning flags of an abuser.
 
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Hello everyone -- please remember this is the forum to suggest new forums -- not for discussion.

I understand that this is an important discussion; however, please take it to an appropriate forum or through PM.

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I didn't know homosexuality was prohibited. In "search" there shows up posts? Maybe they should be deleted?
There is a specific area, however see the rule below:

Homosexuality may not be promoted* on CF. Same sex marriage may be discussed from a political, legal, historical, and civil rights point of view in the American Politics andChristian Current Affairs forums. Homosexuality and SSM may be discussed in the Congregational forums according to each forums' guidelines in their Statement of Purpose. Homosexuality and SSM may be discussed, without promotion*, in the Struggles with Sexuality and Ask a Chaplain forums solely for the purpose of seeking support with struggles overcoming same-sex attractions, and homosexual issues. Members may not promote* homosexuality or same sex marriage in their profiles.
 
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Good Sabbath morning, Thank you for your reply. In your opinion, does my thread sound like I am promoting homosexuality?
If so, how? From the media I've never heard of any negative connotation concerning homosexual relationships. Do you notice in News that always it's mention about spousal assault, or murder among heterosexuals but never among homosexuals?
The media is totally positive on TV shows and movies. So many youth is our world, (mainly from divorced homes), sees hetero, negatively and homosexuality positive. An ingenious deception from satan.
I don't believe the Church is aware of this in our culture for it does not address it.
Jesus would provide a sanctuary for those who are abused and seeking truth, and as the woman caught in adultery, LOVE, forgive and instruct her, "Go and sin no more".
 
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There is a specific area, however see the rule below:

Homosexuality may not be promoted* on CF. Same sex marriage may be discussed from a political, legal, historical, and civil rights point of view in the American Politics andChristian Current Affairs forums. Homosexuality and SSM may be discussed in the Congregational forums according to each forums' guidelines in their Statement of Purpose. Homosexuality and SSM may be discussed, without promotion*, in the Struggles with Sexuality and Ask a Chaplain forums solely for the purpose of seeking support with struggles overcoming same-sex attractions, and homosexual issues. Members may not promote* homosexuality or same sex marriage in their profiles.
Good Sabbath morning, Thank you for your reply. In your opinion, does my thread sound like I am promoting homosexuality?
If so, how? From the media I've never heard of any negative connotation concerning homosexual relationships. Do you notice in News that always it's mention about spousal assault, or murder among heterosexuals but never among homosexuals?
The media is totally positive on TV shows and movies. So many youth is our world, (mainly from divorced homes), sees hetero, negatively and homosexuality positive. An ingenious deception from satan.
I don't believe the Church is aware of this in our culture for it does not address it.
Jesus would provide a sanctuary for those who are abused and seeking truth, and as the woman caught in adultery, LOVE, forgive and instruct her, "Go and sin no more".
 
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Hello everyone -- please remember this is the forum to suggest new forums -- not for discussion.

I understand that this is an important discussion; however, please take it to an appropriate forum or through PM.

Thanks.
Sorry I am still learning my way around. Could you suggest an appropriate forum and how do I move it to there???
 
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There is a specific area, however see the rule below:

Homosexuality may not be promoted* on CF. Same sex marriage may be discussed from a political, legal, historical, and civil rights point of view in the American Politics andChristian Current Affairs forums. Homosexuality and SSM may be discussed in the Congregational forums according to each forums' guidelines in their Statement of Purpose. Homosexuality and SSM may be discussed, without promotion*, in the Struggles with Sexuality and Ask a Chaplain forums solely for the purpose of seeking support with struggles overcoming same-sex attractions, and homosexual issues. Members may not promote* homosexuality or same sex marriage in their profiles.
Good Sabbath morning, Thank you for your reply. In your opinion, does my thread sound like I am promoting homosexuality?
If so, how? From the media I've never heard of any negative connotation concerning homosexual relationships. Do you notice in News that always it's mention about spousal assault, or murder among heterosexuals but never among homosexuals?
The media is totally positive on TV shows and movies. So many youth is our world, (mainly from divorced homes), sees hetero, negatively and homosexuality positive. An ingenious deception from satan.
I don't believe the Church is aware of this in our culture for it does not address it.
Jesus would provide a sanctuary for those who are abused and seeking truth, and as the woman caught in adultery, LOVE, forgive and instruct her, "Go and sin no more".
 
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Good Sabbath morning, Thank you for your reply. In your opinion, does my thread sound like I am promoting homosexuality?
If so, how? From the media I've never heard of any negative connotation concerning homosexual relationships. Do you notice in News that always it's mention about spousal assault, or murder among heterosexuals but never among homosexuals?
The media is totally positive on TV shows and movies. So many youth is our world, (mainly from divorced homes), sees hetero, negatively and homosexuality positive. An ingenious deception from satan.
I don't believe the Church is aware of this in our culture for it does not address it.
Jesus would provide a sanctuary for those who are abused and seeking truth, and as the woman caught in adultery, LOVE, forgive and instruct her, "Go and sin no more".
No it doesn't; I was just letting you know just in case. :)
 
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Very good advice...Something else that may happen also abuse(physical, mental, sexual) of the children.Hope your Post will warn someone, no matter what their sex or sexual preference is, of the warning flags of an abuser.
Indeed. No matter what adult consensual sexual preference someone has, no one should suffer abuse!

And the children is a very good point. If a man or woman abuses your children call police. And no matter what, press charges. Because one of the worst kind of cowards, who should be presumed of lethal potential, is someone who abuses a child who can't fight back.
First time is the last time.

Don't ever be talked into staying after the first punch, slap, kick, assault of any kind. Because that bogus lie, "baby, I'm sorry!" This goes without saying. Yes, they're sorry! But contrite has nothing to do with that fact. "It'll never happen again." Bull! That it happened the first time is enough. Because it tells you they have no self control, no respect, and not a care about you or they wouldn't beat you.

Leave! Because if you stay you could die. If you leave you'll be free to find the one God intended for you. Live your life happy! Not as a statistic.
 
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Honestly, I am not trolling. Occasionally I wonder about a walking partner I had over 30 years ago. He was in a very abusive homosexual relationship. Went to bed with a loaded gun under his pillow for fear that his alcoholic partner would kill him in his sleep, through one of his rages. He was isolated. Though he had family they had disowned him. He felt very trapped, and hopeless, just as heterosexuals feel in the same circumstances. I loved him as a friend, and never knew what happened to him, when we moved. He stated, "there are safe houses for abused women, but none for people like me".
As a Christian community, is there anything we should do, for people like this in so much pain???

discussing how Christians should treat other people who are in pain and in bad relationships is not the same as promoting homosexuality . homosexuals are people too . how should we treat people who are in abusive relationships? asking that question isnt against the rules as it is not promoting homosexuality this is a question about Christian behavior toward people and what it should be .
 
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