Ghost , ghost hunters

Theatreguy18 · Oct 9, 2015

what are ghost do you believe in them and I hear the ghost hunter shows use catholic prayers out father , Hail Mary , the st Michael prayer iv even heard some of them claim they are practicing Catholics is this ok for them to investigate the paranormal and be Catholic?

Theatreguy18 · Oct 9, 2015

Ghost78 said:
I was contacted by a spiritualist church some how they knew i had experiences in the past they wanted to help me develop the skills however Necromancy is clearly forbidden by the bible and the church.

This is because you can quite easily contact evil spirits.

I believe we can contact spirits but if it is forbidden by God then we will not be able to contact a heavenly spirit through necromancy. The only spirits would be perhaps those in purgatory and evil spirits. The only contact we can have with heaven is through God.

In the end we should only seek to be in contact with one spirit.... The Holy Spirit

I have angel cards and have had an angel board what r ur thoughts on those

benedictaoo · Oct 9, 2015

Theatreguy18 said:
I have angel cards and have had an angel board what r ur thoughts on those

Opening doors. Better close them.

MikeK · Oct 9, 2015

I don't believe in ghosts in the ghost hunting sense. I do believe in Satan. The Church has everything you need, throw those cards away.

benedictaoo · Oct 9, 2015

And they are supossed to be burned and not just thrown away.

Theatreguy18 · Oct 9, 2015

That doesn't answer the question can Catholics be ghost hunters

Theatreguy18 · Oct 9, 2015

Ghost78 said:
Just looked them up ouija board and tarrot cards renamed re themed to decieve christians... get rid as soon as you can.... if i were in your shoes i wouldnt have them in the house until they can be disposed of

I disagree there nothing like tarot because there named " Angel advice cards to brighten ur day " they say things like try to stay positive today , drink more water , eat clean and organic , make sure to journal , there not mean for divination just general good advice I hardly touch them they where a gift any way I don't have the angel board anymore I returned it I never even used it

football5680 · Oct 9, 2015

I don't know if the Church has an official position on this but personally I do not believe in ghosts. When we die we are judged and will be sent wherever God decides so I don't see any place for the existence of ghosts. Whether a Catholic could be a "Ghost" hunter would depend on what they are actually doing. I wouldn't see any harm with setting up a few cameras and see what happens but walking through a house or something with a recorder and asking questions to what you believe is the spirit of a dead person would be forbidden.

MoonlessNight · Oct 9, 2015

Ghost78 said:
Just looked them up ouija board and tarrot cards renamed re themed to decieve christians... get rid as soon as you can.... if i were in your shoes i wouldnt have them in the house until they can be disposed of

Tarot cards were originally just playing cards. The major arcana are sometimes called "trumps" since that's exactly what they were: the first trump cards. Later the normal suits became trump in most games (as happens in bridge and 500) so the dedicated trump cards were superfluous and Tarot cards fell out of favor for playing games. It was only after they fell into disuses that they were co-opted by occultists and fanciful meanings were associated with them.

The analogy I have heard which might help illustrate the situation is to imagine that in 300 years someone discovers cards from the Pokemon trading card game. If Pokemon is no long around, they will seem mystifying and as such they might be explained as bizarre occult cards. But right now there is none of that associated with the cards.

Certainly using Tarot cards for divination is illicit, and many of the decks published now are too full of occult imagery for most people to want to touch them. But I think it gives a bit too much power to the occult practices to pretend that the idea of a Tarot deck as such is anything inherently evil. It actually illustrates the nature of the occult a bit more clearly to realize that they are adding meanings to what were once simply cards in a game, just as augurs will imagine that the future is foretold by the liver of a sheep. There is nothing there to see and it would be rather absurd if the nature of their delusions did not open them up to further misdirection of a demonic nature.

thecolorsblend · Oct 9, 2015

Ghost78 said:
These "things" are made with satanic intentions many if not all are satanically blessed.

Pretty much. Even if they weren't so "blessed" though, they're still not welcome here. I won't have dangerous stuff like that in my house.

Theatreguy18 · Oct 9, 2015

Ghost78 said:
Brighten your day... illuminate your day... to bring light to your day.... ANGEL cards that bring LIGHT

what kind of ANGEL ... an ANGEL OF LIGHT

2 cor 11:14

"Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light."

By the way i am not trying to admonish you for this. Its easy to fall victim to these kind of tricks the devil pulls.

Just because the devil can masquerade as an angel of light doesn't mean there are not real angels of light in fact my nonna ( Italian for grandma ) says a prayer to st Michael calling him oh great prince oh mighty angel of light pray for us as it us

MoonlessNight · Oct 9, 2015

Ghost78 said:
These "things" are made with satanic intentions many if not all are satanically blessed.

The problem with them is that they are used for divination and that their creators often have on obsession with the occult. But you can find historical tarot decks and even some which are explicitly designed for playing cards (this would be a good example of what I am talking about), and these I don't see a problem with. Of course, even the historical decks can be used for divination, but so can an ordinary deck of playing cards. And that's not just a random example, I have run into occultists who do use a standard deck of 52 cards + jokers for use in divination.

But because of how the deck has been perverted in recent centuries, I would not recommend looking into even the historical decks to anyone who was not a fan of history, card games, or both. At least 90% of the decks that you will encounter are full of occult imagery or come with "guides" full of satanic nonsense.

bill5 · Oct 11, 2015

Catechism 2116:

All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to "unveil" the future.48 Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone.

Seems pretty clear to me. You could go "well what if you don't try to 'conjure up' the dead but just see if they're around," but I think that's playing pedantic games and trying to dance around the intent of the Catechism, which shows it pretty clearly out of bounds.

Rhamiel · Oct 11, 2015

could you link us to the "angel cards"

if they are not used for fortune telling, then I do not think they are bad?

as for can a Catholic be a "ghost hunter"

well you could research haunted locations
record peoples stories
write down local legends

but any kind divination or necromancy would be bad
even trying to talk to ghosts is not advisable

Theatreguy18 · Oct 12, 2015

Rhamiel said:
could you link us to the "angel cards"

if they are not used for fortune telling, then I do not think they are bad?

as for can a Catholic be a "ghost hunter"

well you could research haunted locations
record peoples stories
write down local legends

but any kind divination or necromancy would be bad
even trying to talk to ghosts is not advisable

The angel cards I have I can not find the edition I don't think they r sold anymore and my pic won't link but the person who gave them to me is a devote Catholic who knows I love angels and arch angels but these r not entended for divination but rather inspiration some even have bible verses I lost the box so I keep them in a plastic bag

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