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If you made it this far in life, despite your problems whatever your facing. I just want to say i'm proud of you, that you are fighting this extremely difficult battle and are sticking it out to the end and never gave up. You did all this work, no one else has the credit for helping you out. It takes a brave and courageous person to face whatever you are going through, so I can clearly tell that you ARE indeed an angel sent from heaven equipped with the power to fight this and that you can trust God because he will never give you more than you can handle. If God saved everyone in the bible, then I am 100% he will save you too! God will always come through for his children. He will never fail you. Depression feels literally like a dragon set out to destroy you, the only problem is that the dragon is empowered by our own strength, and uses our own fears against us. It's literally the devil weakening you to the point where you feel like you have no choice but to feel like everything will be solved by ending your life. But you are strong, you are better than that. Don't believe the lies. Just pray to God and never ever lose faith. Remember that he always keeps his promises and will reward you for this pain you are dealing with. Life can be hard, and sometimes it fears me deeply to see you going through this immense pain; but if you leave us, we will ALL affected by your death. We need you, the world needs you, your brothers and sisters need you, your loved ones need you. If you go down then we all go down. Don't believe the lies thinking we'll be far better off. WE WILL NOT be far better off. I know it's hard, I deal with it as well, but that only means we need each others support now more than ever. Trust me whatever you are facing God will help and give you joy in exchange tenfold. I pray that you may have the strength to face your demons, and may you be blessed with an amazing life, happiness, peace, and your dreams all become reality. Amen. Lots of love.
 

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It is true Jesus can get us through even the worst of our depression and the dragon will be destroyed in the end.

Be of good courage.


A Way Out Of Depression

How can we have meaning if we don't love?
everything else is but a clinging cymbal,
a sounding gong!
...of no importance in the scheme of things,
a loving faith takes us Home to Him!
He who is love Himself!
Hide in His love!
..and love His children,
and all Creation too!
and find a way out,
of this hell hole we've been in.
His love the way out of depression.
 
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Wonderful posts. I feel kind of melancholy today. Could b cooking, cleaning house and other things but am just tired. Just finished a stint with some mania...I'm bipolar and I guess I'm on the downside now. Just want to sleep. Crummy guilt feelings trying to creep in but am pushing them aside. Think I'll get my bible and have a read...
 
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I have days like that...but then I have days where I am so grateful to what God has given me and I feel better. I feel better knowing that I have been saved by the love of our Saviour, Jesus Christ
 
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Don't take a "republican" advice over God's love and grace in Jesus Christ.

Is God pushing you? Is everything you feel bad about...God's doing? Doesn't God want us to look up to Him and love each other? Even if you don't feel loved, even if it was the case that nobody right now on this planet loves you, why would you step out of love? Surely you can love. Someone might need that love right now, or tomorrow, or in 20 years. Plenty of people feel alone, and are in need of the same things you are right now. Do you think you can't find them? Do you think your love does not matter for them? Or do they have to come to you first? If so, why? Or are you in a hurry? If so, where?

Listen, brother. God does not want us to suffer for the sake of suffering. He's not a torturer. You know how the mount sermon goes, you know who are blessed. You just don't believe it right now.

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Luke 6:35-38

"But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.

“Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”

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How hard is it to forgive those who hurt us! Even now, when I feel like I am not treated badly by the world, and I have no enemies at this point of my life, I find this hard to do. But it will set us free from a lot of pain when we can let go of the grudge that eat us, and let love grow something out of it in time. We will need patience, and if we don't have it, we are forced to learn it.

But what is hard for us, is easy for God. Our father is merciful, just like Jesus said. Accept that, brother. Accept that you are loved, because God is love and He gave His only begotten Son for us. For you. None of us can deserve it, we only can accept it. We can't reach God's grace with anything we do ourselves, because it is His gift to give. And it can set us free.
Let the world be the world, and pray for God to help your suffering. I prayed for you too.

This I know: even if God isn't a torturer, he will allow us to fall. Because we need it. We need to be reminded that we need Him, that the world will pass, and how we should put our faith in Christ. It is good for us when we get humbled before the Lord, but we want to rebel. We want to fight against it, we don't want to suffer the wound and learn from it, and to put our suffering and prayers and hopes in front of God. We rebel against it, even if it is the easiest thing.

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What help are you getting for your depression? Are you seeking more of it? Do you need money for doctors or treatments? I have a little money I could give via PayPal, it would just take a couple of days. You only need to ask. Because you are in need of help. You speak of attempts, as if enough of those and you will succeed in killing yourself at some point. That is surely a cry for help, even if you denied it. I am trying to help, and I know there are limits. I live on another continent, I don't know you, we're on the internet right now but I'm trying to remind you that God is there. None of us can boast here, brother. We all suffer. I am better now, but I haven't forgotten. I've been in that darkness too. None of us are better than you, and we don't want lives to become lost, because many of us have been there and we know the false, vile things we felt when we were in those dark pits. Those thoughts are lies.

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At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this is what you were pleased to do.

“All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
 
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Not really true, now i am dealing with all the crap of the world and on top of that the 24/7 daily pain of wanting to die with no friends or family, just online condescending republican advice "well, maybe you should just..." - if god keeps pushing me like this i am going to take another attempt in the garage with my car.

Psalms 139:7-12
Where can I go from your Spirit?
Where can I flee from your presence?
If I go up to the heavens, you are there;
if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.
If I rise on the wings of the dawn,
if I settle on the far side of the sea,
even there your hand will guide me,
your right hand will hold me fast.
If I say, “Surely the darkness will hide me
and the light become night around me,”
even the darkness will not be dark to you;
the night will shine like the day,
for darkness is as light to you.



My dear dear brother it is not God who is punishing you - far be it from that - God loves you enormously much - and wants you back with Him - rather it is the devil who is hurting you. You are court in his fowler’s net, and because you care about wrong he is hurting you as much as he can because he loves doing that to those who belong to God.

It are the lies about God, yourself and your neighbour that are devouring you from the inside and bring so much torture your way, I have been suicidally depressed myself plenty of times to know how that works.

The truth of God's love saved me and the truth of His love can save you.

The Word told me that what you sow you shall harvest. Ponder on this for a moment. What does your anger sow? What does your bitterness sow? What does your loneliness sow? What does your hate sow? What does your misery sow? What does your hopelessness sow? What does despair sow? What does your loveless heart sow?

What are you reaping?

The lies of our depression press us like grapes in a wine fat - while the wicked ruling our thoughts and feelings drunk on our life blood are feasting their lifeforms in us. Dooming us, torturing us, oppressing us, defiling us, hating us, and scorning and mocking us.

Sow good things in your heart and mind my dear struggling brother. Dump the crap hurting you. Refuse to be a keeper of bad things and seek to fill yourself up with good stuff. What other people have done or do has no business destroying your life. Rather love, be meek and humble, be gentle, grow long suffering, patience, faith, hope, joy, and best of all to have this all in union together with others who love God's truth to rule.

The good thing is the desert can bloom! With Jesus the desolation can be turned into a wonderful paradise. Living waters make sure of that. His love coming from above because we take refuge in His Word of truth and stay with Him and refuse to depart from His truth, no matter how hard depression presses to retain us.

So please brother sow loving thoughts into your heart. Put your faith in God's love - Jesus Christ - and let His Word of truth lead you out of your inner hell.


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Jesus rescues

When depression reigns
and all seems lost!
When regrets demand an ear
shame and guilt burn our hearts!

When loneliness attacks
and despair pounds!
When hopelessness compels
and the pit looms!

Then call upon Jesus
and let Him save you!
Then cling to His love
His grace will comfort you!

Then shelter underneath His wings
and find protection from bad life!
Then in His love there is safety
as we are made anew!


 
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Nothing ends today. Be arrogant then if you want, and downplay the help you are offered. It's alright, I did it too when I was younger. I can't pretend that I knew better myself. Nevertheless, God will be there, and we will be here too. Said a prayer for you.

Come to your senses and get help, man. You are our brother and none of us want to see you gone.
 
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Dear brother,

It is amazing how you grab hold of lies to be able to kill yourself without having to worry about what the outcome will be. It is written that a murderer has no eternal life in him/her and that therefore you who are planning to murder yourself will not escape the truth. So indeed bad life is done away with in Heaven, I'm afraid that will include you who plans to harm and kill, like the devil does all the time as well.

Shall death save you? Where in the bible can you find confirmation for that?

My dear friend it is about escaping the flames not running into them. The escape is Jesus. He is the door to the Father/Heaven, and only through Him can you enter in the sanctuary to praise Him, for only He is better than life.

If you want to be in the great throng adoring Him, then you need to lay down your bad life and take up His good life for then you are in the loving truth of God. How many forgiven sinners have testified to you about the fact that they are forgiven, for Christ sake? This means that we acquire a holiness that we didn't produce ourselves but which has been given. You are in bad need of good life yourself. So don't seek death and its misery to save you, such is bad a bad illusion to have, but step into the truth of the Son of God Jesus Christ. He will save you from your own murderous thoughts and set you free from depression as well if you accept Him as your Messiah instead of suicide as the answer to your problems.

Now I know that some people commit suicide because they are mentally disturbed, but boasting about the fact that you are planning to kill yourself is not part of that condition. You know you grief us with your words for like Christ we want to save life not loose it.

So where is hope when you are dead seeing that you killed life? Hopelessness will you reap, bad will devour you without protection! Suicide is the most foolish thing to do. It is following depression all the way. Filling yourself completely with bad life and actively murder good life, such can never end-up going good.


Where is goodness when you are alive? Isn't He all around you! So sow goodness in your heart and grow a good life. What good is walking around in your bad life forever? Be ashamed of your own murderous thoughts and acknowledge to God that you need Christ to cover you. That is how you sow good life, by having life in it, by doing it. So of you want to be happy and not depressed any more then sow good life in your heart and you will reap an inner paradise. It is from within that we lost good life in the first place, at birth we have all been given good life, for we are all His offspring.

So yes no good killing yourself dear brother, you will not reap a good reward for doing that. Rather cultivate good life in your heart and grow away from your bad life, stop doing its bidding and do good instead. This includes loving God and neighbour, such is good not bad at all.

A very concerned brother.

(a poem about my battle with suicide.)

Miseries Ugly Truth

My truth is sore and ugly,
my truth is I hate my life.

The Truth is, truth is unwanted!
my truth is rotten to the core,
my truth stinks like sewage.

My truth is hard and mean,
My truth is without any good.

The Truth is, my truth burns!
My truth is a walk in darkness,
my truth kills my good life.

My truth lies to me continually
my truth isn't holy or blameless

The Truth is, my truth is the pits!
my truth is utterly godforsaken
my truth is irredeemable.

My truth is utterly rejected,
my truth hands out no mercy.

The Truth is, my truth is loveless!
My truth hotly desires good life,
my truth hurts like Hell.

My truth is not welcome,
my truth is not loved.

The Truth is, My God, my God,
why have I forsaken You?
Is that why I'm down here?

 
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I tried killing myself. Twice.

It was a tough season in my life. My parents divorce. The abuse. The pain. The rejection. It was all too much. I thought it'd just be easier to end it all than having to go through it every day, for the rest of my life.

But what happened was I discovered a church with a ton of people who loved me, despite my flaws, despite my hurt, despite who I felt I was. I found a church that said "It's going to be okay, because we're going to go through it with you."

If you're feeling alone, you aren't. If you feel lost, that's okay. You won't be forever.
Know in those dark times, that it does get better.
It really does.
 
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You guys just don't get it, nobody does which is exactly why i am going to kill myself.
I get it.. I truly do. I know what it feels like to feel weak, tired, worn, purposeless, hopeless, worthless, alone, in fear, in anxiety.. I've been there. I've even contemplated of the same things you've thought of. I wish I could be present with you and give you a big hug.

Before you go any further.. please hear me out and watch this video. It has a great message at the end of it. God's not the one who's bringing you down..the enemy is.


 
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I get it.. I truly do. I know what it feels like to feel weak, tired, worn, purposeless, hopeless, worthless, alone, in fear, in anxiety.. I've been there. I've even contemplated of the same things you've thought of. I wish I could be present with you and give you a big hug.

Before you go any further.. please hear me out and watch this video. It has a great message at the end of it. God's not the one who's bringing you down..the enemy is.



Wow. This video blew me away. I'll admit I was a bit down earlier but the video did quite the opposite for me. It was truly inspirational. I will pray for you sarvesh and I hope that you will defeat whatever problems you are facing currently.
 
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You guys just don't get it, nobody does which is exactly why i am going to kill myself.


I felt the condescending opinions of others as well, however when i chose to see my burdens as a blessing instead of a curse, then i found strength in the Lord. Its my cross to bear, its a blessing not a curse, although others didn't see it that way. THe more other people act like im cursed, the more i will show them that im blessed instead. THe Lord understands. I get it too. Others seemed to try and make me feel weak in faith and they made me feel hopeless. Its the overwhelming feelings of despair and hopelessness that come against us. I would encourage you to put hope in the Lord, because hope is our refuge. If we hope in the Lord then we put it in his hands and we wont need to bear the burden anymore, and he will be faithful to us. The battle may come and go, but God's grace is always the way that we can find victory over it. Put it in God's hands by trusting in His mercy. Put all your anxieties, loneliness and fears into his hands. He experienced all those things at the cross and he does understand.
 
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When everything seems hopeless, that's when Gods grace is the greatest. I feel so tired sometimes, and i wonder how i will make it through this life. When we find ourselves defeated, lost, and overwhelmed, that's when Gods grace sustains us. Its ok to be weak, because he is strong for us. Its simply a matter of putting trust in him, even though things seem so hopeless. God is merciful and he will not allow anyone who hopes in that mercy to be lost.
 
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Don't take a "republican" advice over God's love and grace in Jesus Christ.

Is God pushing you? Is everything you feel bad about...God's doing? Doesn't God want us to look up to Him and love each other? Even if you don't feel loved, even if it was the case that nobody right now on this planet loves you, why would you step out of love? Surely you can love. Someone might need that love right now, or tomorrow, or in 20 years. Plenty of people feel alone, and are in need of the same things you are right now. Do you think you can't find them? Do you think your love does not matter for them? Or do they have to come to you first? If so, why? Or are you in a hurry? If so, where?

Listen, brother. God does not want us to suffer for the sake of suffering. He's not a torturer. You know how the mount sermon goes, you know who are blessed. You just don't believe it right now.

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Luke 6:35-38

"But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.

“Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”

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How hard is it to forgive those who hurt us! Even now, when I feel like I am not treated badly by the world, and I have no enemies at this point of my life, I find this hard to do. But it will set us free from a lot of pain when we can let go of the grudge that eat us, and let love grow something out of it in time. We will need patience, and if we don't have it, we are forced to learn it.

But what is hard for us, is easy for God. Our father is merciful, just like Jesus said. Accept that, brother. Accept that you are loved, because God is love and He gave His only begotten Son for us. For you. None of us can deserve it, we only can accept it. We can't reach God's grace with anything we do ourselves, because it is His gift to give. And it can set us free.
Let the world be the world, and pray for God to help your suffering. I prayed for you too.

This I know: even if God isn't a torturer, he will allow us to fall. Because we need it. We need to be reminded that we need Him, that the world will pass, and how we should put our faith in Christ. It is good for us when we get humbled before the Lord, but we want to rebel. We want to fight against it, we don't want to suffer the wound and learn from it, and to put our suffering and prayers and hopes in front of God. We rebel against it, even if it is the easiest thing.

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What help are you getting for your depression? Are you seeking more of it? Do you need money for doctors or treatments? I have a little money I could give via PayPal, it would just take a couple of days. You only need to ask. Because you are in need of help. You speak of attempts, as if enough of those and you will succeed in killing yourself at some point. That is surely a cry for help, even if you denied it. I am trying to help, and I know there are limits. I live on another continent, I don't know you, we're on the internet right now but I'm trying to remind you that God is there. None of us can boast here, brother. We all suffer. I am better now, but I haven't forgotten. I've been in that darkness too. None of us are better than you, and we don't want lives to become lost, because many of us have been there and we know the false, vile things we felt when we were in those dark pits. Those thoughts are lies.

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At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this is what you were pleased to do.

“All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
 
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