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But, that is not the end,

Psalms 104:29,
When You conceal Your countenance,
they are terrified;
When You take back their spirit they will return to their dust.

104:30,
When You will send forth Your spirit
they will be created anew,
and You will renew the face of the earth.

And this is where the heavenly orchester plays,
Tchaikovsky,s piano concerto No 1, Op 23
well worn but never wears out.
Our physical body is made from the same matter that makes up the earth. God arranged the physical body so that it would not age. A perfect physical body. Because I'd the fall Adam introduced imperfection by partaking of the fruit thus he would eventually die. "For since by man came death". Because of the fall Adam was subject to physical death. This physical death was passed on to all mankind. Also Adam was cut off from the presence of God. A spiritual death. This also was passed on to all mankind. When we die our physical body will go back to the earth as dust. Or spirit which can never die will return to God who gave it. When the second coming arrives the dead will rise from the graves. The first resurrection will be those who obeyed God to the best of their abilities. Who loved God more than the world. There will be a second and a third and a forth and so on until all who have lived on earth will be resurrected. Those who have not tasted death will also go through a change where they will be changed in a twinkling of a eye by passing the normal way of death. Death will be but a twinkle. To make a long story short after those who have been obedient to God will continue to progress toward perfection until they reach it and become like the Father.
 
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As we know them. Do you think we have all the knowledge of physics? Can God make water run up hill?

God, being God, isn't bound to the rules which govern the universe.

No amount of knowledge is going to change how flight works. We don't need to know everything about how the universe operates to know the things we do know.

No amount of knowledge is going to change the force of gravity. No amount knowledge is going to let me breathe fire, or shoot rainbows from my eyeballs.

Assuming I did know everything that could be known within the universe I still wouldn't be able to simply click my heels together and fly. That's not how knowledge works.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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God, being God, isn't bound to the rules which govern the universe.

No amount of knowledge is going to change how flight works. We don't need to know everything about how the universe operates to know the things we do know.

No amount of knowledge is going to change the force of gravity. No amount knowledge is going to let me breathe fire, or shoot rainbows from my eyeballs.

Assuming I did know everything that could be known within the universe I still wouldn't be able to simply click my heels together and fly. That's not how knowledge works.

-CryptoLutheran
Really? I think you are looking at a smaller picture
 
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If you believe that, fine, but it seems to me that since nobody has been able to figure it out in the history of humanity, it isn't knowledge but an actual limitation of us that we cannot fly under our own power.

Your faith is not my faith and is incompatible.
 
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Really? I think you are looking at a smaller picture

Not really. I just have no reason to believe that being able to contravene the laws of nature can be achieved by knowing more stuff. That's not something that's part of the historic Christian faith which I subscribe to.

My hope in Christ isn't to gain superpowers by accumulating more knowledge, but hope for the renewing and restoration of all things, resurrection from the dead, eternal life.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Our physical body is made from the same matter that makes up the earth. God arranged the physical body so that it would not age. A perfect physical body. Because I'd the fall Adam introduced imperfection by partaking of the fruit thus he would eventually die. "For since by man came death". Because of the fall Adam was subject to physical death. This physical death was passed on to all mankind. Also Adam was cut off from the presence of God. A spiritual death. This also was passed on to all mankind. When we die our physical body will go back to the earth as dust. Or spirit which can never die will return to God who gave it. When the second coming arrives the dead will rise from the graves. The first resurrection will be those who obeyed God to the best of their abilities. Who loved God more than the world. There will be a second and a third and a forth and so on until all who have lived on earth will be resurrected. Those who have not tasted death will also go through a change where they will be changed in a twinkling of a eye by passing the normal way of death. Death will be but a twinkle. To make a long story short after those who have been obedient to God will continue to progress toward perfection until they reach it and become like the Father.

Thinking here that the main reason to all this
is because by eating of the forbidden fruit,
their eyes were opened, they became aware, a selfawareness,
 
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The soul is in the blood, or rather it resides in the heart which pumps the blood around the body.
Do you honestly believe that? Perhaps you also believe that the heart has got something to do with your emotions?
 
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The soul is in the blood, or rather it resides in the heart which pumps the blood around the body.

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eudaimonia,

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Do you honestly believe that? Perhaps you also believe that the heart has got something to do with your emotions?

Time is only thing we own, it is alloted to us a certain amount, to waste it is a waste,
because we cannot get it back.
The moment that has just past has passed, never to return

I wonder if it is not a complete waste of time, being on a forum.
 
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It has been said of the critics of the LDS faith that it is blasphemy to think that man could be god. They claim that to do so would some how take away from the glory of God. If man were able to reach perfection over eons of time wouldn't that add to the glory of God as this person continues to worship God through the eternities?
Jesus was God in embryo when He was conceived by Mary.
We are meant to become like Him. That's the goal. It wasn't bad that Adam and Eve wanted to be like God. But you get like that by getting to know Him and eating from the tree of life.

Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.
 
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Not really. I just have no reason to believe that being able to contravene the laws of nature can be achieved by knowing more stuff. That's not something that's part of the historic Christian faith which I subscribe to.

My hope in Christ isn't to gain superpowers by accumulating more knowledge, but hope for the renewing and restoration of all things, resurrection from the dead, eternal life.

-CryptoLutheran
I am not waiting for the day either I would look forward to be able to further what our a father is doing. His purpose is to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man
 
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The Teilhardian "Omega Point" is an intriguing concept, but it seems to me that it's based on a common misunderstanding about evolution.
Biological life adapts to the circumstances it finds itself in, since probability makes it less likely for ill-suited populations to survive and reproduce. But this process is not an upwards-movement, no linear progression. We like to think of homo sapiens as the crowning achievement of this planet's biosphere, yet we've only been around for about a million years, and already messed everything up so much that we're in the middle of a man-made mass extinction event. (Look it up: species are dying at a rate last seen when a fracking meteor whacked the planet, and we are the cause.) That large brain of ours that allowed us to colonize virtually every ecological niche? It didn't prevent us from wasting resources, polluting our basis of existence, and reproducing so indiscriminately that we've basically EXPLODED all across the globe, with disastrous consequences for everyone and everything involved.
Now, compare that to some species that have been around for millions of years: lacking our capacity for abstract thought, symbol usage, and self-awareness - and yet avoiding this kind of self-destructive impulse. Who's the bigger success?
 
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