Barack Obama Suggest "Takeover" "Staying in Power" Oregon Shooting
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I don't identify myself as a "Conspiracy Theorist". I am a Christian. Part of me being a Christian is being discerning of the truth. You're supposed to be a Christian remember? How about you actually watch the video and respond to it rather than just dismissing it as a conspiracy theory
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You will find there are people in this world who hate America and American's. While America and American's who are under the "rule" of the current president and have to suffer for that and have every valid right to opine that condition are laughed at, dismissed, ridiculed, mocked, by those in the world who are also atheists and hate America and American's.
I have a friend who I golf with from time to time. He's convinced that something will be let to happen in America that enables BO to declare martial law. And this way BO will remain in the White house indefinitely. I concur with him in one respect and where he says he's arrived at the conclusion that BO is determined to destroy America and was even before entering the White house. I can't say I disagree. As for martial law we'll have to wait and see. And if that happens we'll have to pray someone decides he has to go. But I doubt any of the branches that have sold out America thus far will grow courage at that point.
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I think it's the double standard fear paradigm card that causes the fear to call it what it is.
Think about that article posted wherein 11 black women were removed from a train for disturbing the peace.
The argument is, they were removed because they were black. That sets the stage for the charge of racism against those that did the deed of removing the women due to complaints by staff and what had to be more than one passenger.
The counter to that of course is, should those 11 women have been allowed to disturb the peace of others simply because they were black?
With Obama when he provided aid to the American enemy Taliban by releasing five of their most highly trained leaders back to them, there are those who say that isn't Treason. And as yet he's not been prosecuted for Treason. And why is that? Because he didn't commit treason? No. Providing aid and comfort to the enemy of America is Treason.
He's not been prosecuted because it would look like it was a racist effort to remove the first black president from office. What is of course missed by those who think that is, if a black man wasn't wanted in the highest office, the American voters wouldn't have re-elected him. It wasn't his color that got him the office. It isn't his color that should take him out of the office.
But make it about race and those who are opposed to someone's wrong doing are then painted as racist. It isn't about race, it's about behavior, action under color of law in the case of Obama. But make it about race and all that gets swept under the rug of reason so that the dread R word takes precedent. And then people back off of their motivation for acting justly. Because they are afraid of being called by the dread R word.
It's the new weapon.
Yes, indeed. And I fear it will only get worse.
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Throwing "race" in there by anyone who would attempt to use it would be "weak", to say the least, and it's waaaay past being a credible thing to say.
And my friend, we disagree on the book club.
It's just wrong what happened to them.
I don't get the animosity towards them.
And for me, it has nothing to do with the color of their skin.
Anybody who attacks "LOL's" anything is just WRONG as far as i'm concerned.
I'm praying they win this case and the two who lost their jobs are offered awesome jobs that trumps their former ones.
You just reminded me to put them on my prayer wall in the hall.
Thank you my friend and brother in Christ.
And yer signatures still crack me up. Yer in HUGE competition with another member who has hilarious signatures.
There should be a contest.
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Yes, but you'll notice it is a practice oft published as a cause or excuse?
In truth we're all opining about something we weren't there to witness first hand. The factors in play being wine, 11 loud rowdy women, and the rights of others. We'll see how it plays out. I personally hope their case is tossed simply because of the precedent it sets.
You're welcome sister.
I love wacky humor gifs for signatures. It lessens the tension that can arise in debates.And yer signatures still crack me up. Yer in HUGE competition with another member who has hilarious signatures.
There should be a contest.
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Yes, but you'll notice it is a practice oft published as a cause or excuse?
In truth we're all opining about something we weren't there to witness first hand. The factors in play being wine, 11 loud rowdy women, and the rights of others. We'll see how it plays out. I personally hope their case is tossed simply because of the precedent it sets.
You're welcome sister.
I love wacky humor gifs for signatures. It lessens the tension that can arise in debates.
In the case of the women in the book club, it seems they've been "demonized" on top of everything else.
They've been through enough.
Did you see the video of them getting off the train?
The entire incident was inSANE, and should've NEVER happened.
My friend, we sooooo disagree here.
It's just WRONG.
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Obama is "old news"...same ol' same ol'
i suspect that many have been, and are, experiencing Obama fatigue.
i suspect that many have been, and are, experiencing Obama fatigue.
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Not going to happen. The Law of the Land as defined in the US Constitution is that the Presidency of Barack Obama ends 20 January 2017 at 12:00 PM. Whether or not a state of emergency exists, or Martial Law, the Constitution remains the Law of the Land.
The Military take an oath to support and defend the CONSTITUTION (not any president) against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
Since Mr. Obama would according to the Constitution cease to be President on 20 January 2017 at 12:00 PM, any orders he would give after that time are illegal, and the service member is REQUIRED to disregard such orders.
Practically speaking, if a Presidential successor has not been determined by that time, the Speaker of the House would become the Acting President until such a successor was chosen.
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In 1864 the US was in the midst of a bloody civil war, yet Lincoln for all of his faults and actions that were (and were ruled by SCOTUS) to be unconstitutional did not dare attempt to suspend or postpone the election. Until the fall of Atlanta, the outcome of that election was in doubt.
Lincoln was in a far better position then than the Obama Administration would be in today if it attempted such a thing. The US Military is NOT Obama's friend.
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You have to ask yourself, If he tried would the people really be able to stop him?
I mean its hypothesized that Bush cheated the 2000 election, we couldn't stop him from being president.
We couldn't stop Bush from invading the Middle East.
We don't have say in a lot of things
The military has more power than the people ten times over, and they are trained not to think for themselves and take orders.
I hope they would be decent enough to protect their own people, but if a national attack is staged and putting us in "safety camps" is for "our own good" than who knows how many military would be opposed.
Millions of Nazi's ( The Military ) were willing to carry out Hitlers plans, who says our military isn't willing to carry out Obama's plans?
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The short answer is YES. He would be stopped. Yes Bush would have been stopped, and NO, the Military is not going to be doing anything to Americans except under the Insurrection and rebellion clause under the 14th Amendment.
You need to take a deep breath and consider the situation. Yes, the US Military is formidable. Yes, they have lots of guns. However: There are only about 800,000 members (or soon will be as reductions in force take effect) in the Army and Marine Corps. There --at the last figures i am aware of-- 80 MILLION gun owners in the US. As has been demonstrated by the conflict in Vietnam, and the recent conflicts in both Iraq and Afghanistan, the US military is WOEFULLY unequipped to deal with an insurgency war the likes of which they would face in the US under the present conditions.
Many of those gun owners are themselves former military. Due to the present circumstances of history and the so-called "War on Terror" there is also quite a bit of combat experience amongst those veterans. It can be argued that there is far more combat experience than most of the present members of the military have.
Those veterans live their lives, know the ground, and have friends, loved ones and neighbours where they live. They would probably have popular support.
There is an old song called Copperhead Road written by Steve Earle.
I volunteered for the army on my birthday
They draft the white trash first, 'round here anyway
I done two tours of duty in Vietnam
I came home with a brand new plan
I'd take the seed from Colombia and Mexico
Just plant it up the holler down Copperhead Road
Now the D.E.A.'s got a chopper in the air
I wake up screaming like I'm back over there
I learned a thing or two from Charlie don't you know
You better stay away from Copperhead Road
Those guys learned a thing or two from "Abdulha" the bomb maker, as well as "Achmed" the insurgent.
As for the various state national guard units, more friends and neighbours and loved ones. They are NOT going to harm their own friends, neighbours and loved ones. i would venture to say that the life of any unit commander who issued such an order would shortly be forfeit.
President Obama is NOT popular with the US Military for a variety of reasons. Some of them are policy issues, some are more practical. He knows this as well. One can fault the man for many things, real and/or imaginary, however stupidity is not numbered amongst those faults.
It isn't going to happen, and Obama will leave office on 20 January 2017 at 12:00 PM
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Yes.
It was handled by the law of the land. In any event, about half of the country wanted Bush to be President. Nobody wants Obama to unlawfully remain in office.
Bush had huge popular support for the invasions, including the support of Congress. Obama has no such support for an extended presidency.
We, the People, had a say in everything you mentioned.
Nothing in the rest of your post is worth responding to.
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