Refuting Sola Scriptura - Why the Bible Alone is Not Sufficient

Do You Adhear to Sola Scriptura?


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The Bible compliments tradition because they are one in the same. We know tradition is true from history.

What we know from history is that they are NOT the same. Nor do the "Sola Tradition" churches even claim that.

It is sufficient that some custom or legend not explicitly contradict Scripture for it to be accorded the status of divine revelation (or not) as the particular denomination chooses. As Stephanie Somer has noted, this is far less reliable than Scripture. And the Bible does not make any claims about it being the equal of God's word, either. Or even recognize such a concept as "Sacred Tradition."
 
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Scripture alone is not supreme and if you look at the 1,000s of churches that have sprung up since Luther you will see that these 'churches' like to interpret scripture in their own unique way! They like to twist it to suit their needs and even change it to suit their needs. True 'Tradition' comes from the Church that Jesus started, The Catholic Church.

Thank you for making my point so efficiently! All those "1,000's" of churches which you mentioned all have their OWN traditions, by which they have twisted Scripture to suit their needs, as you so eloquently put it. Yet, you insist that in this single instance of the Catholic church that tradition has not twisted anything. Quite an accomplishment. However, the real point is that you mentioned their error as being that Scripture was twisted. If Scripture is NOT supreme, why would that matter?
 
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It's true that tradition can be wrong, and an error of tradition tends to travel an ever-increasing vector. However, it's also true that scripture--the bible that we have--was created by the tradition of the early church. "Sola scripturalists" in these conversations do tend to deny the work of the Holy Spirit in guiding the tradition that led to the bible, and as well deny the continuing work of the Holy Spirit.

If you go back to the original concept of "sola scriptura," it does not make those denials. Some people have coined "solo scripturalism" to define that particular extreme.
 
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Thank you for making my point so efficiently! All those "1,000's" of churches which you mentioned all have their OWN traditions, by which they have twisted Scripture to suit their needs, as you so eloquently put it. Yet, you insist that in this single instance of the Catholic church that tradition has not twisted anything. Quite an accomplishment. However, the real point is that you mentioned their error as being that Scripture was twisted. If Scripture is NOT supreme, why would that matter?

Those 1,000s of churches have veered off from the 'True Church of Christ'. They then decided to make up things to suit themselves, unlike the Catholic Church which has stuck to the teachings of the Apostles / Disciples of Christ. The Catholic Church was started by Christ! This is where 'Tradition' in its purest form has remained true!

Its not scripture that is twisted. It is the interpretation of it by these break away factions over the course of history as they refuse to believe in the 'True Church of Christ'.
 
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Thank you for making my point so efficiently! All those "1,000's" of churches which you mentioned all have their OWN traditions, by which they have twisted Scripture to suit their needs, as you so eloquently put it. Yet, you insist that in this single instance of the Catholic church that tradition has not twisted anything. Quite an accomplishment. However, the real point is that you mentioned their error as being that Scripture was twisted. If Scripture is NOT supreme, why would that matter?

The Catholic Church is not a 'single instance'; that is the main difference. The Catholic Church is the original, universal (catholic means universal) church that Christ Himself started on the earth through his apostles. We know this is true because of a documented line of succession directly from the apostles starting all the way back to St. Peter whom Christ alone entrusted with the keys to the kingdom of heaven (ref. Matthew 16:19).
 
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It's true that tradition can be wrong, and an error of tradition tends to travel an ever-increasing vector. However, it's also true that scripture--the bible that we have--was created by the tradition of the early church.
No, that's not true. The Church merely recognized the books of Scripture it considered authentic. The churches, i.e. congregations, themselves had long considered them to be inspired. So, no, it's quite incorrect to repeat the old slogan that the Church "created" Holy Scripture.

"Sola scripturalists" in these conversations do tend to deny the work of the Holy Spirit in guiding the tradition that led to the bible
I've not experienced that...and you aren't addressing it here either. To say that Tradition created God's word in Scripture represents a denial that the Holy Ghost had a part in the creation of the Bible books in the first place strikes me as clearly untenable.

I believe the point here was supposed to be to prove that the Bible is not sufficient, not merely to assemble the usual one-liners and throw them at Christians who accept Scripture as their ultimate guide to doctrine.

I'm not seeing much here that qualifies as proof that the Bible is insufficient or that we know what to turn to if it's not.
 
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I agree. The Holy Spirit DOES work through real people too. He works through many different avenues. But, which avenue has the least possibility of error? Did ALL the early Church fathers agree? No, they didn't. Is there any possibility that differing Church fathers were BOTH correct? Not likely.

But it's highly likely their dispute is over something that is actually irrelevant.

Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters. -- Romans 14

There are "indisputable matters" and there are "disputable matters." Contrary to popular opinion, the set of "disputable matters" in Christianity is actually quite large and the set of "indisputable matters" is actually very small. For instance the basic issues surrounding the "Calvinism vs Arminianism" debate were acknowledged by the second century, yet the Church fathers both recognized the issues and also recognized that they were not issues that should cause division.

For me, the "indisputable matters" are contained in the Apostle's Creed, and I accept as a full brother in Christ anyone who assents to those basic concepts...even if my Catholic brothers have a somewhat different idea of what some of those concepts mean from mine.
 
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No, that's not true. The Church merely recognized the books of Scripture it considered authentic. The churches, i.e. congregations, themselves had long considered them to be inspired. So, no, it's quite incorrect to repeat the old slogan that the Church "created" Holy Scripture.

Nobody went up on a mountain and returned with the New Testament on stone tablets inscribed by the finger of God.
 
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For me, the "indisputable matters" are contained in the Apostle's Creed, and I accept as a full brother in Christ anyone who assents to those basic concepts...even if my Catholic brothers have a somewhat different idea of what some of those concepts mean from mine.

Very well, but everything in the Apostles' Creed is from the Bible, so this ^ position, while admirable in itself, hardly poses any difficulty for believers in Sola Scriptura or shows us that there's any insufficiency in Scripture. Would you agree?
 
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Nobody went up on a mountain and returned with the New Testament on stone tablets inscribed by the finger of God.
And no one says that this happened. It's not part of the debate. It has nothing to do with Sola Scriptura.

So let's just stick to the topic.
 
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No, that's not true. The Church merely recognized the books of Scripture it considered authentic. The churches, i.e. congregations, themselves had long considered them to be inspired. So, no, it's quite incorrect to repeat the old slogan that the Church "created" Holy Scripture.

This is false. Most of the early Christian congregations had various books and epistles which they believed were authentic and inspired which are not included in the canon. To this day, the Eastern Orthodox church recognizes a slightly different canon then we observe.

The argument that everyone 'recognized' what was inspired is simply wrong. Read any documents of the early church fathers to see the massive disagreement.

Besides, if you suggest that the church canonized what was already inspired, then why do Protestants adhere to a Bible containing seven less books then what everyone 'already knew' was inspired?
 
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And no one says that this happened. It's not part of the debate. It has nothing to do with Sola Scriptura.

So let's just stick to the topic.

That is the topic. The New Testament was not written by the direct hand of God. It was written by members of the Church, judged as inspired by members of the Church, taught by members of the Church, copied by members of the Church, and cherished by members of the Church for three hundred years before the Church actually declared a "canon." They declared canon what they had believed by tradition.

That is tradition. That's what tradition is and what tradition means.

It's certainly more traditional than anything that's been developed in this infant entity called the United States.
 
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This is false.
No, it's not. It may come as news to you, but it's correct.

Most of the early Christian congregations had various books and epistles which they believed were authentic and inspired which are not included in the canon. To this day, the Eastern Orthodox church recognizes a slightly different canon then we observe.
It's true that some churches follow a canon that is slightly different from other churches. Some accept books that others do not. But all of those that WERE accepted by the councils were already in use in almost all the churches. The fact of the matter, therefore, is that the institutional church did not "create" the Bible. It only put it's stamp of approval on the books we all now accept.

But that aside, notice what this does to your thesis. You claim that the church invented the Scripture...and then proceed to tell us that there are a number of different compilations used in the different churches. Did the Holy Spirit inspire and guide a different answer for each denomination you had in mind, therefore?

Besides, if you suggest that the church canonized what was already inspired, then why do Protestants adhere to a Bible containing seven less books then what everyone 'already knew' was inspired?
Because there is no reason to assume that the councils in question couldn't have made a mistake. They aren't considered to be Ecumenical Councils by the Catholic churches, so why would anyone think that their choice of books was necessarily infallible? It's really more of a talking point for use in debates like this one than a real issue.

Beyond that, the books of the Apocrypha had ALWAYS been in dispute. The Jews themselves were divided on inclusion of them. The 66 others have not been in such dispute.

And here's the topper to that fact. The Roman Catholic Church changed the listing of books ITSELF after the Protestants had made their changes!
 
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Beyond that, the books of the Apocrypha had ALWAYS been in dispute. The Jews themselves were divided on inclusion of them. The 66 others have not been in such dispute.

And here's the topper to that fact. The Roman Catholic Church changed the listing of books ITSELF after the Protestants had made their changes!

So you would trust in Martin Luther over all of the early church fathers?

First, the Septuagint is the document used to quote OT in the NT, and it included the Apocryphal books.

Second, you are referring to the Council of Trent and that council simply reaffirmed the canon, it did not change it.
 
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That is the topic.
I'm reading the topic sentence now and it says "Refuting Sola Scriptura--Why the Bible Alone is not Sufficient."

Refuting Sola Scriptura. Why it isn't sufficient.

That's the topic.

That is tradition. That's what tradition is and what tradition means.

No, it's not. At least it's not what "Holy Tradition" or "Sacred Tradition"--the purported alternative to God's word in Scripture--means. If the Bible is not sufficient (and I'm still waiting to hear a valid reason why that might be so), let's at least be clear on what is offered as the alternative.
 
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So you would trust in Martin Luther over all of the early church fathers?
I'd put my trust in the word of God over some selection of comments from a few men considered to be "Early Church Fathers," yes. Martin Luther is relevant to this matter only to the extent that he is history's most famous defender of the sufficiency of Scripture.

Second, you are referring to the Council of Trent and that council simply reaffirmed the canon, it did not change it.
It was changed. If you are not aware of this, you owe it to yourself to check it out.

Here's the Wikipedia information on this subject:

"In 1592, Pope Clement VIII published his revised edition of the Vulgate, referred to as the Sixto-Clementine Vulgate. He moved three books not found in the canon of the Council of Trent from the Old Testament into an appendix "lest they utterly perish" (ne prorsus interirent).[22]

The protocanonical and deuterocanonical books he placed in their traditional positions in the Old Testament."
 
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I'd put my trust in the word of God over some selection of comments from a few men considered to be "Early Church Fathers," yes. Martin Luther is relevant to this matter only to the extent that he is history's most famous defender of the sufficiency of Scripture.


It was changed. If you are not aware of this, you owe it to yourself to check it out.

Here's the Wikipedia information on this subject:

"In 1592, Pope Clement VIII published his revised edition of the Vulgate, referred to as the Sixto-Clementine Vulgate. He moved three books not found in the canon of the Council of Trent from the Old Testament into an appendix "lest they utterly perish" (ne prorsus interirent).[22]

The protocanonical and deuterocanonical books he placed in their traditional positions in the Old Testament."

How is this a valid argument? It states in your quote that the Pope Clement VIII moved three books not found in the Council of Trent. We have never added or took away from the Bible after the Council of Rome established the canon. Pope Clement VIII simply placed those writings in the appendix of the Bible so that future generations will be able to enjoy them. Additionally, none of the councils prior decided that order of the books in the canon was of any importance, so the fact the Pope Clement VIII rearranged the order is of no consequence.
 
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During the course of my discussions with Protestants over Catholic doctrine, it has become clear that until the concept of sola scriptura (Bible alone) is refuted, we will be in a state of perpetually frivolous debate. In this blog post, I will pose my top five reasons why the Bible cannot be the only authority for Christians. The following arguments are based solely on the writings of early church fathers (only one of whom wrote post-biblical canonization), interpretations of scriptural text that has spanned the centuries, and of God-given common sense. Enjoy!


1. The Bible Never Claims to be the Sole Authority

If Jesus intended written scripture to be the sole source of authority for His followers after His ascension, it stands to reason that He or the apostles would have made that claim. More, the early church fathers would have mentioned this substantial claim in their writings. Rather, what we find is that Jesus, the apostles, and the early church fathers display a perfect blend of tradition and scriptural authority. I know what you're thinking, "But the Bible does say it is authoritative!" Well, let's take a look at the top verses utilized to support this claim.

"But as for you, continue in what you have learned and firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it, and how from childhood you have known the sacred writings that are able to instruct you for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, so that everyone who belongs to God may be proficient, equipped for every good work." - (2 Timothy 3:16-17 - NRSVCE)

In this passage, Paul wrote about the importance of scripture, but he did not state or imply that scripture alone is our authority. He stated that scripture is "...useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness." This is true, but in no way inflated scriptural authority or minimized the authority of tradition.

"These Jews were more receptive than those in Thessalonica, for they welcomed the message very eagerly and examined the scriptures every day to see whether these things were so." - (Acts 17:11 - NRSVCE)

Again, Paul showed that scripture is an excellent tool for growth and learning about God, yet he never wrote that scripture is our only authority.

I hate to insult your intelligence, but I have heard of people utilizing the book of Revelation to defend sola scriptura. The verses are:

"I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book; if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away that person’s share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book." - (Revelation 22:18-19 - NRSVCE)

The Bible is not a single book, it is a compilation of 73 individual books and letters. Therefore, when John wrote that "... if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy...", he specifically referred to his book of Revelation, not the entire Bible. The aforementioned passages do uphold that scripture is inspired and authoritative; however, they do not explicitly or implicitly advocate for sola scriptura.


2. The Bible Endorses Holy Tradition
Unlike sola scriptura, the authority of holy tradition is thoroughly stated throughout the New Testament. Some examples are:

I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions just as I handed them on to you. - (1 Corinthians 11:2 - NRSVCE)

"So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by our letter." - (2 Thessalonians 2:15 - NRSVCE)

"Now we command you, beloved, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, to keep away from believers who are living in idleness and not according to the tradition that they received from us." - (2 Thessalonians 3:6 - NRSVCE)

"So faith comes from what is heard, and what is heard comes through the word of Christ." - (Romans 10:17 - NRSVCE)

"We also constantly give thanks to God for this, that when you received the word of God that you heard from us, you accepted it not as a human word but as what it really is, God’s word, which is also at work in you believers."- (1 Thessalonians 2:13 - NRSVCE)

From these passages, it is clear that the writers of the New Testament held holy tradition (oral teachings) at the same level as holy scripture. This makes sense, because scripture is simply recorded portions of what was taught by the Jesus and the apostles. In fact, the highest endorsement of holy tradition comes from Jesus Himself:

And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the good news to the whole creation. - (Mark 16:15 - NRSVCE)

The Greek word used here for 'proclaim' is 'kérussó', which means to preach, herald, or proclaim in a public manner. Jesus did not tell his apostles to immediately record the good news; He told them to proclaim the good news verbally in public settings. The recording of the good news came afterwards, but was not necessary to follow Jesus because they had holy tradition.

Remember, holy tradition is everything taught by the apostles that had been passed down through apostolic succession. The holy scriptures are the written accounts of these apostolic teachings; however, there are many oral teachings that have been safeguarded through a continuous succession of the apostles.

I know someone is thinking, "What about Mark chapter seven?" Let's take a look:

"You abandon the commandment of God and hold to human tradition.” Then he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition! For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘Whoever speaks evil of father or mother must surely die.’ But you say that if anyone tells father or mother, ‘Whatever support you might have had from me is Corban’ (that is, an offering to God— then you no longer permit doing anything for a father or mother, thus making void the word of God through your tradition that you have handed on. And you do many things like this.” - (Mark 7:8-13 - NRSVCE)

In this passage, Mark explicitly states that he is referring to human tradition. Whenever any tradition explicitly goes against the God's will, then it is human tradition and utterly sinful. Holy tradition is not the same as human tradition. The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains holy tradition as:

This living transmission, accomplished in the Holy Spirit, is called Tradition, since it is distinct from Sacred Scripture, though closely connected to it. Through Tradition, "the Church, in her doctrine, life and worship, perpetuates and transmits to every generation all that she herself is, all that she believes." (DV 8 § 1) "The sayings of the holy Fathers are a witness to the life-giving presence of this Tradition, showing how its riches are poured out in the practice and life of the Church, in her belief and her prayer." (DV 8 § 3.)" (Catechism of the Catholic Church, para. 78) Holy tradition does not trump scripture, they compliment each other in equal unity because they stem from the same source.


3. The Early Church Fathers Never Advocated for Sola Scriptura
In my research, I have found many articles quoting church fathers in an attempt to prove sola scriptura. One example I read quoted the following passage from Irenaeus of Lyons:

"We have learned from none others the plan of our salvation, than from those through whom the Gospel has come down to us, which they did at one time proclaim in public, and, at a later period, by the will of God, handed down to us in the Scriptures, to be the ground and pillar of our faith." (Against Heresies, 3.3.1)

If you cherry-pick a paragraph from an entire book you can give the impression that Irenaeus of Lyons was certainly advocating for sola scriptura. Just for fun, let's take a step back and read this passage's chapter title.

"Chapter I. - The Apostles Did Not Commence to Preach the Gospel, or to Place Anything on Record, Until They Were Endowed with the Gifts and Power of the Holy Spirit. They Preached One God Alone, Maker of Heaven and Earth." (Against Heresies, 3.3.1)

The purpose of this chapter was not to advocate for sola scriptura, rather to debunk a common heresy at the time that the apostles wrote scripture prior to obtaining the power of the Holy Spirit. Obviously, claiming that the apostles did not have the Holy Spirit within them prior to recording the scriptures was and is heresy; so Irenaeus wanted to quickly and effectively debunk this misunderstanding by emphasizing that everything the apostles wrote is true and can be trusted as a "pillar of our faith." (Against Heresies, 3.3.1)

This is interesting, I wonder what we will find if we take another step back and read the titles of the next three chapters.

"Chapter II.-The Heretics Follow Neither Scripture Nor Tradition." (Against Heresies, 3.3.2)

"Chapter III.-A Refutation of the Heretics, from the Fact That, in the Various Churches, a Perpetual Succession of Bishops Was Kept Up." (Against Heresies, 3.3.3)

"Chapter IV.-The Truth is to Be Found Nowhere Else But in the Catholic Church, the Sole Depository of Apostolical Doctrine. Heresies are of Recent Formation, and Cannot Trace Their Origin Up to the Apostles." (Against Heresies, 3.3.4)

Irenaeus of Lyons labeled people who did not follow tradition or believed in apostolic succession as heretics, plain and simple. The title of chapter two clearly states that heretics "Follow Neither Scripture Nor Tradition." (Against Heresies, 3.3.2) Irenaeus placed scripture and tradition on the same level and clearly advocated that some churches had legitimate claims to apostolic succession.

A couple of articles I read argue that Irenaeus condemned the belief that authority solely originated from spoken word. It is precisely true that Irenaeus condemned the belief that authority solely derived through spoken word (referred to as 'vivâ voce', translated to 'with living voice'), because it is a heresy. Let's look at the first two passages of chapter two that contains Irenaeus' condemnation of 'vivâ voce:

"1. When, however, they are confuted from the Scriptures, they turn round and accuse these same Scriptures, as if they were not correct, nor of authority, and [assert] that they are ambiguous, and that the truth cannot be extracted from them by those who are ignorant of tradition. For [they allege] that the truth was not delivered by means of written documents, but vivâ voce: wherefore also Paul declared, "But we speak wisdom among those that are perfect, but not the wisdom of this world." And this wisdom each one of them alleges to be the fiction of his own inventing, forsooth; so that, according to their idea, the truth properly resides at one time in Valentinus, at another in Marcion, at another in Cerinthus, then afterwards in Basilides, or has even been indifferently in any other opponent, who could speak nothing pertaining to salvation. For every one of these men, being altogether of a perverse disposition, depraving the system of truth, is not ashamed to preach himself.

2. But, again, when we refer them to that tradition which originates from the apostles, [and] which is preserved by means of the succession of presbyters in the Churches, they object to tradition, saying that they themselves are wiser not merely than the presbyters, but even than the apostles, because they have discovered the unadulterated truth. For [they maintain] that the apostles intermingled the things of the law with the words of the Saviour; and that not the apostles alone, but even the Lord Himself, spoke as at one time from the Demiurge, at another from the intermediate place, and yet again from the Pleroma, but that they themselves, indubitably, unsulliedly, and purely, have knowledge of the hidden mystery: this is, indeed, to blaspheme their Creator after a most impudent manner! It comes to this, therefore, that these men do now consent neither to Scripture nor to tradition." (Against Heresies, 3.3.2)

The Catholic Church has never taught that authority is based on tradition alone. Our authority derives from an equal unity of holy scripture and holy tradition. More, the fact that Irenaeus utilized holy tradition as an authority immediately debunks the concept of sola scriptura and the aforestated argument. I digress, here are some other quotes from early church fathers regarding the importance of holy tradition:

Clement of Alexandria

"Well, they preserving the tradition of the blessed doctrine derived directly from the holy apostles, Peter, James, John, and Paul, the sons receiving it from the father (but few were like the fathers), came by God's will to us also to deposit those ancestral and apostolic seeds. And well I know that they will exult; I do not mean delighted with this tribute, but solely on account of the preservation of the truth, according as they delivered it. For such a sketch as this, will, I think, be agreeable to a soul desirous of preserving from escape the blessed tradition." (The Stromata, 1:1)

St. Epiphanius of Salamis

“It is needful also to make use of tradition, for not everything can be gotten from sacred Scripture. The holy apostles handed down some things in the scriptures, other things in tradition” (Medicine Chest Against All Heresies 61:6 )

St. John of Chrysostom

"Verse 15. So then, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word, or by Epistle of ours.

Hence it is manifest, that they did not deliver all things by Epistle, but many things also unwritten, and in like manner both the one and the other are worthy of credit. Therefore let us think the tradition of the Church also worthy of credit. It is a tradition, seek no farther. Here he shows that there were many who were shaken." (Commentary of 2 Thessalonians 2:15)

St. Basil the Great

"Of the beliefs and practices whether generally accepted or publicly enjoined which are preserved in the Church some we possess derived from written teaching; others we have received delivered to us in a mystery by the tradition of the apostles; and both of these in relation to true religion have the same force. And these no one will gainsay—no one, at all events, who is even moderately versed in the institutions of the Church. For were we to attempt to reject such customs as have no written authority, on the ground that the importance they possess is small, we should unintentionally injure the Gospel in its very vitals; or, rather, should make our public definition a mere phrase and nothing more." (On the Holy Spirit, 27)

The amount of evidence for holy tradition from the early church fathers is astounding; anyone who believed otherwise was labeled a heretic (one who dissents from an accepted belief or doctrine). They understood that the apostles simply could not write everything down (ref. John 21:24-25).


4. Sola Scriptura Produces Bad Fruit
From a purely logical standpoint, anything that consistently yields negative results is bad. This concept is not just logical, but an explicit teaching of Jesus, "A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit." (Matthew 7:18 NRSVCE) Therefore, if the concept of sola scriptura is 'good' then it should yield 'good' results; however, this is not the situation. Sola scriptura has led to tens of thousands of divisions within the church which is emphatically against scripture. Paul writes:

"I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment. For it has been reported to me by Chloe's people that there is quarreling among you, my brothers. What I mean is that each one of you says, 'I follow Paul,' or 'I follow Apollos,' or 'I follow Cephas,' or 'I follow Christ.' Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?"
- 1 Corinthians 1:10-13 (ESV)


Does this sound familiar? I follow Paul, I follow Cephas (Peter), what about I follow Luther, I follow Calvin, I follow Arminius, I follow Wesley. We are flawed and thus make the same mistakes over and over. We must heed the words of Paul by removing divisions in Christ's church and "...be united in the same mind and the same judgement." (1 Corinthians 1:10 ESV) I cannot fathom how the concept of sola scriptura, whose fruits has consistently defied scripture, could be the intention of God.


5. Sola Scriptura is Simply Not a Feasible Concept
When you get right down to it, the concept of sola scriptura is not feasible. I have three reasons for this assertion.

1. The Bible was not canonized until the late 300's. How did people know how to live prior to the canonization of the Bible? Did they run rampant and completely fail to adhere to God's commands? The answer is no; at least no more than they do today. Christians had holy tradition to guide their actions and beliefs.

2. Even though the Bible is available immediately to anyone who wishes to read it, we still end up with incorrect interpretations and assumptions. This results in thousands of denominations (as discussed earlier) and is explicitly against scripture. Peter knew that improper interpretation of scripture could happen and so stated, "First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, because no prophecy ever came by human will, but men and women moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God. (2 Peter 1:20-21 NRSVCE) I must emphasize that 'prophecy' does not mean 'to predict the future' in this context, it means to 'communicate and enforce revealed truth'. So to communicate and enforce revealed truth within the scripture requires men and women filled with the Holy Spirit, not by one's own reading. This implies the importance of one unified church that interprets scripture.

3. At the end of the book of Saint John, he clearly indicates that written scripture is true; however, not exclusive of all teachings. He writes:
"This is the disciple who is testifying to these things and has written them, and we know that his testimony is true. But there are also many other things that Jesus did; if every one of them were written down, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written." - John 21:24-25 (NRSVCE)


Conclusion
Utilizing all facets available, I find it undeniable that Jesus, the apostles, and the early church fathers taught and understood that our authority derives from both holy tradition and holy scripture. There is simply no evidence for the claim that the Bible alone is sufficient for our authority. If we truly believe that God is living and active in our lives today, then limiting His divine revelation to a group of seventy-three written works outside of His explicit mandate is heresy. God's word is not stagnant and neither is his authority; they are living and active, revealed through holy tradition and holy scripture.
Sola scriptura is a protestant invention. Jesus and his apostles quoted tradition. A lot of people don't know that. However, the protestants came up with the idea for a reason. Thd church was going to crazy town. I think the balance is stick to the bible when the bible gives the answer. Use church history to fill in the gaps, recognizing the great men of God were filled with the Holy Spirit in the past. We have to be really careful with church tradition, but protestants need to stop pretending they don't use various councils as tradition. They also quote Reformed writers as if they were special "saints". It's so overdone its sickening.
That's my take.
 
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Experience demands that there be SOME final authority. If "tradition" or some "head" says or does anything which contradicts clear Scriptural teaching, which DO you follow? If you say "tradition" then the "head" AND the Scripture take a back seat, and the inference is that they are not as reliable as "tradition". Likewise, if you say the "head", then the other two are suspect of possible error. In any organization, if there is no FINAL authority, there is chaos. The reason that Protestants claim the Scripture as the final authority is because it is the only one of the three which has not changed, and will not change.
Until we read Reformed views too heavily into the scriptures without realizing it. No one is truly free from eisegesis.
 
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