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Echolipse

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I agree. But no I wasn't leaning toward Obama. We focus on Obama cause he's our pres. There are others who signed this DEAL. I think things are going to be a whole lot worse when the Trib starts..it's just going in that direction now really really fast. But just to theorize (haha) what if this Iranian deal is THE DEAL. Everyone in the WORLD knows about this DEAL. And what if the 'many' are the many nations who sign it? That would make an Islamist the AC. Am I just crazy? ( I mean beyond normally) LOL Thanks, Zippy2

I've considered that as well, but there is one MAJOR issue with that, the AC must be a single human. Primarily because of the way Revelation and Ezekiel are written regarding the AC. If everyone is to worship the AC along with his (graven) image, but it's a huge sin in Islam to have a picture of Muhammed, but we haven't seen a image of "Allah", then who are the people of earth supposed to worship? For this reason, along with others, there must be a physical, single Anti-Christ.....and i just realized I misread your posting. Apparently I haven't woken up yet. The question is about this "deal" is does it match what scriptures describe? Or are we trying to fit scripture into what we want and not vice versa? Much like fitting a circle into a square. Here's the thing about this "deal" also, everyone knows that no "peace" will come out of this deal. The deal is supposed to generate a form of peace, this one clearly doesn't.
 
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Yes, you said it yourself; everyone is saying it will mean peace when we know it won't at all. But people are buying it. Peace, peace when there is no peace.

I actually haven't read where it'll bring peace. So that's news to me. People are so gonna blow up on me on this one....BUT if this deal goes through and let's just say this is the one that was prophesied...that would mean that Obama is the AC, which makes no sense. I guess we'll just have to see what happens.
 
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I actually haven't read where it'll bring peace. So that's news to me. People are so gonna blow up on me on this one....BUT if this deal goes through and let's just say this is the one that was prophesied...that would mean that Obama is the AC, which makes no sense. I guess we'll just have to see what happens.

Kerry and others have said if we don't pass the DEAL, it means war. Ergo, if we do sign it, it means peace at least for a certain time period. But no, it would not necessarily mean it's BHO. Yes we will have to wait and see. Maybe Congress will get some courage somehow.
 
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I've considered that as well, but there is one MAJOR issue with that, the AC must be a single human. Primarily because of the way Revelation and Ezekiel are written regarding the AC. If everyone is to worship the AC along with his (graven) image, but it's a huge sin in Islam to have a picture of Muhammed, but we haven't seen a image of "Allah", then who are the people of earth supposed to worship? For this reason, along with others, there must be a physical, single Anti-Christ.....and i just realized I misread your posting. Apparently I haven't woken up yet. The question is about this "deal" is does it match what scriptures describe? Or are we trying to fit scripture into what we want and not vice versa? Much like fitting a circle into a square. Here's the thing about this "deal" also, everyone knows that no "peace" will come out of this deal. The deal is supposed to generate a form of peace, this one clearly doesn't.

Regarding the "Deal"


 
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I'm getting philosophical here, anyone ever wonder why God chose us (me and you) to live during this time and not 700 years ago during the dark ages and vice versa?

I would not have done well in the dark ages. LOL But, seriously.. I dunno. Why are we interested in this stuff? Why can't we leave it alone? I have asked myself that many times and even tried to leave it alone for 15 years. nope. Couldn't do it. I do not consider myself anyone special AT ALL; no prophet; no seer; nothing like that. But I wonder why He won't let me leave it alone. I will PM you sometime about why I stopped searching for 15 years. I'll have to talk to you some more first, ok? But yes, I have wonder about this as well and I bet many here have also.
 
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I would not have done well in the dark ages. LOL But, seriously.. I dunno. Why are we interested in this stuff? Why can't we leave it alone? I have asked myself that many times and even tried to leave it alone for 15 years. nope. Couldn't do it. I do not consider myself anyone special AT ALL; no prophet; no seer; nothing like that. But I wonder why He won't let me leave it alone. I will PM you sometime about why I stopped searching for 15 years. I'll have to talk to you some more first, ok? But yes, I have wonder about this as well and I bet many here have also.

Hehe, I love medieval stuff. I wish to one day have a medieval wedding. My family thinks I'm wierd for it, haha. Not sure how I would hold up during those times.

Another reason I know that Christ will not return during this time, is because too many pre-trib people are completely expecting Him to return this month or around this time. Apparently they forget that in the Word it says that He will return during a time we least expect. Practically EVERYONE is expecting Him to return around this time. Makes me wonder what kind of response I'd get from a certain pre-trib forum on facebook if I posted that....
 
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