Christianity - As Jesus Christ Himself Taught It
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John 6
63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.
68 Simon Peter answered Him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life.
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All manipulated biased translations with convenient additions and deletions cannot qualify to be God's words. Only what is spoken through the Holy Spirit qualify now to be called God' words!
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All those who humble themselves and yield to the work of the Holy Spirit will understand the will of God. It is not decided by a group of people. It is the question of personal salvation and conviction based on the writings available.
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It seems to me that more and more I am seeing individuals with Unorthodox beliefs coming into the Christian related forums. Not saying that these people are or are not Christians, but all who post here do need to follow the SOP (Statement of Purpose) within this sub forum.
To state that the Bible is not the Word of God is contrary to this sub forums SOP. The reason that the SOP's exist for each sub forum is so there is some level of agreement on basic tenants of the faith as we begin our conversations.
I think most of us are very patient with people who do not follow the SOP, but there does come a time when Unorthodox beliefs become a problem.
According to the SOP, the BIble is the god-breathed Word of God. So that needs to be followed unless someone posts in the Unorthodox subforum, which is there right to do.
So let's get back on topic. Paul is Biblical. The entire New Testament is Biblical.
To state that the Bible is not the Word of God is contrary to this sub forums SOP. The reason that the SOP's exist for each sub forum is so there is some level of agreement on basic tenants of the faith as we begin our conversations.
I think most of us are very patient with people who do not follow the SOP, but there does come a time when Unorthodox beliefs become a problem.
According to the SOP, the BIble is the god-breathed Word of God. So that needs to be followed unless someone posts in the Unorthodox subforum, which is there right to do.
So let's get back on topic. Paul is Biblical. The entire New Testament is Biblical.
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Are you aware of the history of canon that got started dubiously by Marcion who rejected all the OT and books and portions of books in the NT that contained the OT verses?
There are so many writings. Why many have been rejected and a few only selected differently by different groups?
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I will just say this, and then we need to move on. If you think that because some council convened that they made that decision, then your image of God is that He is a weakling who is totally at the mercy of man. God really is in control, and the Bible really is HIS written word. It’s not mans written word, it’s God’s. He decides what goes in it, not you and not a counsel....and He decided that long ago.
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I don't want to continue my postings here because it may violate the Forum rules. Yes, God is in control including that of Satan. By the same logic people think that what happened to World Trade centers in 9/11 was God controlled. Good bye and God bless.
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John 1:1 GodCZU
Fret Not Yourself Because Of Evildoers
Can you but imagine with no real knowledge of the awesomeness of it in truth, sitting at the feet of Yeshua himself as he teaches his Fathers words?
It poses an interesting question. We come to think of the NT as Jesus teachings. But yet it is all arrived at through word of mouth handed down and then ultimately recorded by others that weren't the actual disciples writing. Nor Jesus.
And that's the question really beyond that. Why don't we have a Book of Jesus in the NT? While most of it is written by a man who wasn't one who actually walked with and heard Yeshua teach.
Paul's prison epistles? When Paul was facing death in Nero's prison for teaching Yeshua's gospel? Why would he then be given something to correspond to those churches he founded in the name of that which he was imprisoned for? And so as to inspire as a martyr in the process those like himself?
Hermeneutics, Exegesis, Soterology. Isn't it a worthy pursuit for the Christian to seek to glean understanding?
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Other than Luke (who received his Gospel "from above" (Gk anothen), meaning by Divine inspiration, Matthew, Mark, and John were all disciples, and two of them were apostles.
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John 1:1 GodCZU
Fret Not Yourself Because Of Evildoers
Some scholarship on the topic of Hermenautics doubt the authorship of the gospels being directly attributed to the actual apostles. Mathew, Mark, etc...
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This the conservative Christians forum is not, per the SOP = Statement of Purpose, the place for liberal Christianity to be argued.
Do you understand what that means? You're denying the scriptures as written, which is against the SOP for this particular forum.
STOP!
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John 1:1 GodCZU
Fret Not Yourself Because Of Evildoers
Thank you. I appreciate your conceding to the request. God bless.
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