why do jews reject jesus?

do jews reject jesus?

  • yes jews do reject jesus.

  • jews don't reject jesus.

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It was mostly just the Jewish leadership that stirred up a crowd. Most Jews didn't even know about it until after it happened.

Sorry but that is very hard to believe!
 
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It was mostly just the Jewish leadership that stirred up a crowd. Most Jews didn't even know about it until after it happened.

Considering how many Jews did not live in Jerusalem and were spread out not only throughout Israel but the rest of the world, you would be right that the events of Jerusalem wouldn't be well known by the many of the Jewish.
 
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Everything was done to make it so that the evil Jews, who were at the time were enemies of Rome, killed Jesus and Rome wasn't the evil party.
You are accusing the Gospel writers of manipulating the truth because YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH. The truth is that Pilate agreed to the demands of the Jews RELUCTANTLY, since Christ was PERFECTLY INNOCENT under Roman law.

It is amazing how people prefer the mythical over the real. The Gospels are true historical accounts which have greater veracity than any other historical records (apart from the fact that they have spiritual content).

And Peter -- A DEDICATED JEW -- accused the Jews of the killing of Christ (Acts 2:14,23; 3:12-15): But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:... Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:... And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk? The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go. But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you; And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.
 
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Considering how many Jews did not live in Jerusalem and were spread out not only throughout Israel but the rest of the world, you would be right that the events of Jerusalem wouldn't be well known by the many of the Jewish.

Sorry but very hard to believe
 
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Sorry but very hard to believe
Hard to believe what? That all the Jews in the world weren't crammed into Jerusalem? If your knowledge of the historical context of the area of Israel in the First Century is this weak, you shouldn't try arguing with people about it.
 
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Hard to believe what? That all the Jews in the world weren't crammed into Jerusalem? If your knowledge of the historical context of the area of Israel in the First Century is this weak, you shouldn't try arguing with people about it.

Jews were the main population in Jerusalem at the time of Our Lord
 
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Jews were the main population in Jerusalem at the time of Our Lord

That's not what's being said. The majority in Jerusalem were Jews but the majority of Jews were not in Jerusalem. If I take a cup and fill it 3/4 of the way up with water, it would be easy to say that the cup is filled with a majority of water. But it is not a majority of water that exists on planet Earth.
 
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That's not what's being said. The majority in Jerusalem were Jews but the majority of Jews were not in Jerusalem. If I take a cup and fill it 3/4 of the way up with water, it would be easy to say that the cup is filled with a majority of water. But it is not a majority of water that exists on planet Earth.

Look, everyone and their cat know that the Jews shouted to crucify Jesus! Who else wanted him dead except the leaders of the Jews?
 
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Look, everyone and their cat know that the Jews shouted to crucify Jesus! Who else wanted him dead except the leaders of the Jews?

I think the Jews didn't shout to crucify. What if I contend the Romans wanted him dead for disrupting the Temple grounds, that they made money off of, and for speaking about a new kingdom coming which they would view as sedition?

You believing something doesn't make it true and you saying everybody knows the Jews did something implies that it's some kind of innate knowledge everybody has. I don't have such knowledge and I only have YOUR book to go on. Why should I trust YOUR book?
 
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I think the Jews didn't shout to crucify. What if I contend the Romans wanted him dead for disrupting the Temple grounds, that they made money off of, and for speaking about a new kingdom coming which they would view as sedition?

You believing something doesn't make it true and you saying everybody knows the Jews did something implies that it's some kind of innate knowledge everybody has. I don't have such knowledge and I only have YOUR book to go on. Why should I trust YOUR book?

You dont have to trust it. But, for me, the Bible tells the truth!!
 
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You dont have to trust it. But, for me, the Bible tells the truth!!

That's great for you. Besides, I don't even really care if they said it in the end. The qualifications to be the Messiah have yet to be met so another Jew being executed by the Romans in the First Century isn't really that amazing. Adds to the list.
 
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Look, everyone and their cat know that the Jews shouted to crucify Jesus! Who else wanted him dead except the leaders of the Jews?

Jesus had just had his Triumphal Entry, so most Jews were excited to see him, it was the leadership that was plotting to kill him. Even if all the Jews alive were in Jerusalem, which is highly doubtful, there's no good reason to assume that they were all at this particular event, let alone more than tiny fraction of them. There's only so many people who can fit into one area. Jesus had been arrested during the night, so most people hadn't heard about it.
 
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Jesus had just had his Triumphal Entry, so most Jews were excited to see him, it was the leadership that was plotting to kill him. Even if all the Jews alive were in Jerusalem, which is highly doubtful, there's no good reason to assume that they were all at this particular event, let alone more than tiny fraction of them. There's only so many people who can fit into one area. Jesus had been arrested during the night, so most people hadn't heard about it.

According to the story, he came to die so that he could rise again,
it makes no difference if it was Jack in the beanstalk who had him put to Death.

So take it from there, would Think a Christian would accept that.

However, the World apparently is full of troublemakers, even under the disguise of religion.

No, it is something much deeper, it is the spirit of Amalek.
 
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According to the story, he came to die so that he could rise again,
it makes no difference if it was Jack in the beanstalk who had him put to Death.

So take it from there, would Think a Christian would accept that.

However, the World apparently is full of troublemakers, even under the disguise of religion.

No, it is something much deeper, it is the spirit of Amalek.

John 10:18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father.”

No need to go further than that.
 
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You are accusing the Gospel writers of manipulating the truth because YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH. The truth is that Pilate agreed to the demands of the Jews RELUCTANTLY, since Christ was PERFECTLY INNOCENT under Roman law.

It is amazing how people prefer the mythical over the real. The Gospels are true historical accounts which have greater veracity than any other historical records (apart from the fact that they have spiritual content).

And Peter -- A DEDICATED JEW -- accused the Jews of the killing of Christ (Acts 2:14,23; 3:12-15): But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:... Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:... And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk? The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go. But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you; And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.


Too bad the “truth” is compressed into four versions that don’t always agree with one another. I prefer my “truth” to be a little more convincing.
 
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