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I appreciate the video. The media focused on Trump saying John McCain was not a war hero, but it shows the original question was, "What is your relationship with God". Trump evaded until he came back firing picking on McCain.
The first question was " Have you ever asked God for forgiveness?" He would not answer but went on and on about Norman Vincent Peele but then he said he didn't think so.
 
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I like what Rand Paul said about that neither the republicans or democrats have the answers to solve Americas problems, he went on and said what this country needs is a spiritual revival towards God, and only that would help solve our problems. I agree 100% with that, and that trumps anything that Trump has said IMHO.
 
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I like what Rand Paul said about that neither the republicans or democrats have the answers to solve Americas problems, he went on and said what this country needs is a spiritual revival towards God, and only that would help solve our problems. I agree 100% with that, and that trumps anything that Trump has said IMHO.

Nice pun, lol.

But yeah, short of Him coming in glory, I really really don't see anything that's going to save America. It is just too far gone into sin and depravity, the corruption is so deep in the government that they've ensured that only their own like-minded people stand a chance of getting in, unless we'd have a huge Christian revival or something and even then I'd think it'd be difficult due to how large corporations work and how money buys politicians these days...
 
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I like what Rand Paul said about that neither the republicans or democrats have the answers to solve Americas problems, he went on and said what this country needs is a spiritual revival towards God, and only that would help solve our problems. I agree 100% with that, and that trumps anything that Trump has said IMHO.
Let's face it. There will be no spiritual revival in America. When a nation turns its back on the Light, there is generally no turning back from Darkness.

Let's also face it that Donald Trump has never professed to be an evangelical Christian, and he should not be held to that standard.
He is a savvy businessman who cannot be bought by the special interest groups. That should be enough.

What Christians should be looking for is whether his economic, defence, national security, immigration, taxation, and other critical policies which impact on the well-being of the country are sound and well thought out. His Immigration Reform policy definitely makes sense, but he needs a complete and sound platform. If you have not checked that out, you owe it to yourself.

Rand Paul (and all other Republican presidential candidates) should already have gotten together and put their egos aside. The fact is that in spite of Mr. Trump's gaffes, his ideas are resonating with the general public and he is leading in the polls everywhere. Even blacks are supporting him and speaking out on his behalf. If all the presidential candidates got behind him, helped him to put together a sound conservative platform, and did not backbite him, many serious issues could be addressed through Donald Trump teamed with either Ben Carson or Ted Cruz. There is no question that the present POTUS has only one agenda - destroy America and support its enemies. And Hillary is not too far from that either.
 
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I appreciate the video. The media focused on Trump saying John McCain was not a war hero, but it shows the original question was, "What is your relationship with God". Trump evaded until he came back firing picking on McCain.

In a recent interview, he refused to name any of his favorite bible verses. He said it was too personal for him to share any verses that gave him comfort, etc.

I posted this video for any Christians who were wondering whether this was a candidate they should get behind. Trump is not a Christian and that means Satan is his master. I won't be voting for anyone I know is under the control of Satan.
 
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Let's face it. There will be no spiritual revival in America. When a nation turns its back on the Light, there is generally no turning back from Darkness.

Let's also face it that Donald Trump has never professed to be an evangelical Christian, and he should not be held to that standard.
He is a savvy businessman who cannot be bought by the special interest groups. That should be enough.

What Christians should be looking for is whether his economic, defence, national security, immigration, taxation, and other critical policies which impact on the well-being of the country are sound and well thought out. His Immigration Reform policy definitely makes sense, but he needs a complete and sound platform. If you have not checked that out, you owe it to yourself.

Rand Paul (and all other Republican presidential candidates) should already have gotten together and put their egos aside. The fact is that in spite of Mr. Trump's gaffes, his ideas are resonating with the general public and he is leading in the polls everywhere. Even blacks are supporting him and speaking out on his behalf. If all the presidential candidates got behind him, helped him to put together a sound conservative platform, and did not backbite him, many serious issues could be addressed through Donald Trump teamed with either Ben Carson or Ted Cruz. There is no question that the present POTUS has only one agenda - destroy America and support its enemies. And Hillary is not too far from that either.


No revival….? Disagree, how can you be so positive, and no scriptures support such a thing. God says "if" my people who are called by my name shall repent…..I will heal their land…" This has happened in the past, and its up to us. It is more than possible, and I believe a great revival will indeed happen. How bad it has to get before it happens I cannot say. This nation is made up of people, and many, many people have not turned their back on God.
 
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No revival….? Disagree, how can you be so positive, and no scriptures support such a thing.
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. (2 Tim 3:1-5). If you have taken a close look at what has already happened within false Christianity, and what is presently happening generally among the evangelical and fundamentalist churches, the only way to describe it is The Great Apostasy. That is exactly what Paul prophesied, calling it "the falling away" (2 Thess 2:1-12). So when there is apostasy in Christendom, you cannot possibly expect a revival. A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.
God says "if" my people who are called by my name shall repent…..I will heal their land…" This has happened in the past, and its up to us.
Notice that it says "my people" and "shall repent". That is the key. The sad truth is that when you point out the sins and the errors to the leaders of the churches they DO NOT repent, but instead harden their hearts. Think about the Reformation and the Counter-Reformation. And that is true even now. You can prove it to yourself if you wish. Bring a sin or error in your church to the attention of the leadership, and tell the leaders that they need to repent and deal with it. Then see what response you get.
It is more than possible, and I believe a great revival will indeed happen. How bad it has to get before it happens I cannot say. This nation is made up of people, and many, many people have not turned their back on God.
Since we are approaching the time when the Antichrist will take control of this world, (and many world and religious events are pointing in that direction), expect things to get darker and darker. That does not mean that souls will not be saved during this time in other parts of the world. It does mean that "revival" will not happen in North America.
 
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This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. (2 Tim 3:1-5). If you have taken a close look at what has already happened within false Christianity, and what is presently happening generally among the evangelical and fundamentalist churches, the only way to describe it is The Great Apostasy. That is exactly what Paul prophesied, calling it "the falling away" (2 Thess 2:1-12). So when there is apostasy in Christendom, you cannot possibly expect a revival. A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

Notice that it says "my people" and "shall repent". That is the key. The sad truth is that when you point out the sins and the errors to the leaders of the churches they DO NOT repent, but instead harden their hearts. Think about the Reformation and the Counter-Reformation. And that is true even now. You can prove it to yourself if you wish. Bring a sin or error in your church to the attention of the leadership, and tell the leaders that they need to repent and deal with it. Then see what response you get.

Since we are approaching the time when the Antichrist will take control of this world, (and many world and religious events are pointing in that direction), expect things to get darker and darker. That does not mean that souls will not be saved during this time in other parts of the world. It does mean that "revival" will not happen in North America.

Hey Job, you are using the wisdom of man to interpret the bible here. It doesn't really matter how church leaders react to that scripture, it matters how you react to that scripture. If your reaction to 2 Chronicles 7:14 is to point out the sins of others, you have missed the meaning of it entirely. Ironically, this is the only reason why 2 Chronicles 7:14 wouldn't be fulfilled and our land wouldn't be healed. When you are reading it, it is talking about your sins, not other peoples sins. It should cause you to get on your knees, not to try to get other people on their knees. God wants revival in our hearts, first. If you want to see change, be the change you are looking for. Gods promise is revival if His people repent, and unless you think the scripture can be broken, that can still happen, but it has to start with us first.
 
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Hey Job, you are using the wisdom of man to interpret the bible here. It doesn't really matter how church leaders react to that scripture, it matters how you react to that scripture. If your reaction to 2 Chronicles 7:14 is to point out the sins of others, you have missed the meaning of it entirely. Ironically, this is the only reason why 2 Chronicles 7:14 wouldn't be fulfilled and our land wouldn't be healed. When you are reading it, it is talking about your sins, not other peoples sins. It should cause you to get on your knees, not to try to get other people on their knees. God wants revival in our hearts, first. If you want to see change, be the change you are looking for. Gods promise is revival if His people repent, and unless you think the scripture can be broken, that can still happen, but it has to start with us first.
AMEN!
 
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Hi TSIO,
Long time brother :oldthumbsup:. I was watching a political show referring to trump as a non believer and one said, "We tend to politicize God". This had me looking like this :bigeye: to say the least. I remember the day if you where an unbeliever your chances were nil. So I feel ya, brother. Firstly, to put the enemy (as in 1 % ter) in the seat of presidency is such folly to begin with. Yeah, he sticks it to them but understand, he is "one" of them. One would strongly suggest one watch "Inequality for all" by Robert Reich. This is to quickly get in touch with whats going on economically in this country. I promise you, once you devote time to that video with laymans terminology of the problem . Even considering putting a 1 %ter = Trump, in the presidents seat is such folly to fixing the problems of America. He "IS" the problems of America & will continue to be the problem for he pays the least in taxes. That suggested video has a real multi millionaire explain in TRUTH the situation of inequality. A poor person to middle class person with strong morals is whats needed in the seat of the presidency. Please do not fall pray to the drama of Trump and his sticking it to the man,,, He is the man, lol, just stating what the low man wants to hear and I get it that he says what every body knows from their couches as a Truth. He will not change it however. It is detrimental to his own wallet to put the system back the way it was before Nixon. Before Nixon 1 %ters paid 70 % of the taxes, today it is 18 % which makes who? taking up the slack? Middle and poor class people. Watch the video and understand our enemy... http://inequalityforall.com/ Hope this informs a person in what he is defending in "sincere ignorance" that we all suffer from at times :oldthumbsup:. Netflix "may" still have the video in their library for those that have it. Thnx for the platform TSIO !!
 
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Hey Job, you are using the wisdom of man to interpret the bible here. It doesn't really matter how church leaders react to that scripture, it matters how you react to that scripture.
That's called escapism. You were the one who was talking about a revival in America. If your church persists in sin and false doctrine, you can do everything correct personally, but there will be no revival in that church. Multiply that right across the land.

Why don't you try that little experiment, instead of running away from reality?The spiritual leaders in each church are ultimately responsible for the spiritual health of their churches. The shepherds are responsible for their flocks. Scripture tells that right at this time in history there will be apostasy, and there is apostasy all arond us. Do you need some examples?

Getting back to the topic, Trump has never professed to be an evangelical Christian. Asking him about his religious beliefs is unnecessary. If he refuses to support anything that is blatantly evil, harmful or treasonous, that should suffice for the present. When you see what the current incumbent is doing to destroy America, someone like Trump is needed to halt the destruction.
 
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Past experience has shown that some professing Christian Presidents have not been good leaders for the country, so that is not a high priority. The profession is not what one says so much as whether he is a good and proven administrator. Can the leader cut to the core and address the real problems, or just talk about surface things and try to please and indulge all comers, and obey party doctrines? God can use any man who is able, experienced in management and not a political player, and realistic and not party oriented, to lead in a godly way. President Reagan made a bit of profession of Christianity which showed his morals and decency was there at least, and he proved to be sound and appreciated (mostly after he was gone) by both Parties.
 
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Past experience has shown that some professing Christian Presidents have not been good leaders for the country, so that is not a high priority.
You are absolutely right. Christians would love to have a solid, Bible-believing and godly man as the POTUS, but that may not ever happen. The priority should be whether the candidate is genuinely concerned about the issues that affect the nation, and does he have a reasonable plan to deal with them. One man can make a difference.
 
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Actually, it was the Democrat John Kennedy who lowered the marginal tax rate from 90%. But Robert Reich hides that inconvenient truth.

Thanks for the info brother ! 90% would change the way these people think if a president would die for that change, lol, for signing his own assassination would be a must in todays reality. So sad, our complacency has driven this country to capitalism involved in politics where these entities should be separate . However, no $, no president, for $ buys the presidents strings of whose puppet he is. Trump is the end product of the 1 %ter that can not be bought but capitalism is his game too so what can be expected is bailouts as our retirement fund is no more, continued war in foreign policy where the citizen has no voice whatsoever as we are in emperialistic mode through complacency. Here's a good read...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/09/02/strange-words-from-st-bernard-and-the-sandernistas

although this talks of Sanders it can be translated to any progressive thinking president and this is not to promote sanders but to delve to the truth of the broken system. Trump will continue to use the broken system to mayhap lower tax rates to 10% for 1 %ters and wham,lol, a flip the script that took them 50 years to implement where we are so dependent on the broken system one overlooks this truth... Our candidates are pre-chosen by an organization of 1 %ters. Our news is tampered with for the organization of Fox , CNN or any network affiliated big name broadcaster IS solely owned by a 1%ter or group of them and so you can bet a non mention of deeds that demonize the U.S. will continue to be ignored. Try above link for real news. Heres one yall might want to know that is not mentioned in any big time news feeds.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/14/the-senate-wants-to-make-internet-providers-spies/

See the separation in what is news worthy to the low man that may find this a serious violation of a mans privacy? Any whooo, know that our news is highly censored.
 
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