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Psalm3704 · Aug 26, 2015

Those seeking the truth, read the bible carefully as it is the source of all truth, not a manmade video.

The video offers $10k to anyone that can produce a scripture revealing a pre-tribulation rapture. Well, here's two scriptures showing the church raptured into heaven before the tribulation.

Isaiah 26:19 - 27:1 KJV
19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
21 For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
1 In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.

Hebrews 12:22-29 KJV
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29 For our God is a consuming fire.

Other Pre-Trib Verses

1 Peter 1:3-5 ESV
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4 to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you,
5 who by God’s power are being guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

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Commonly used scriptures by those promoting a post-tribulation rapture.

1) People say Matthew 24:31 is the rapture. But if you read carefully, the bible say those being gather are from heaven, not earth. You can't rapture anyone already in heaven.

Matthew 24:31 KJV
And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

How did they get there before the end of the tribulation? This verse totally debunks a post-tribulation rapture.

2) People say the church never goes to heaven in the rapture and immediately return to earth after meeting Christ in the air.
But the bible reveals the great multitude in the throne room of God.

Revelation 7:14-17 NKJV
14 And I said to him, “Sir, you know.”
So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore they are before the throne of God, and serve Him day and night in His temple. And He who sits on the throne will dwell among them. 16 They shall neither hunger anymore nor thirst anymore; the sun shall not strike them, nor any heat; 17 for the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne will shepherd them and lead them to living fountains of waters. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.”

3) At the 6th Seal In Revelation 7, we see the 144,000 getting seal and the great multitude praising God's salvation for deliverance from the tribulation.

Here's a simple question. If the rapture is post-trib, than the 144,000 will get seal for protection after the tribulation as they are sealed the same time the great multitude appears in heaven praising God and Christ for salvation in Rev 7. Does this make sense?

The tribulation does not begin till after the 144,000 are sealed pre-trib, not the other way around (post-trib).

Revelation 7:3-4 NKJV
3 saying, “Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.” 4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel were sealed:

Revelation 7:9-10 NKJV
9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!”

4) People say "that Day" is the rapture and it will not come till after the man of sin be revealed.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 NKJV
Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,

Well, if you look at everywhere in the book of 2 Thessalonians, there's no mention of a rapture in the entire book.

But, if you read the prior chapter, the bible shows what day that Day is. It's the Day of the Lord's second coming in judgement to punish the world.

2 Thessalonians 1:6 - 2:3 NKJV
6 since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, 7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed.

11 Therefore we also pray always for you that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfill all the good pleasure of His goodness and the work of faith with power, 12 that the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and you in Him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

2:1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,

5) People say John 17:15 "I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one." is a post-tribulation rapture verse.

But it's really not. It's a prayer Christ made for His disciples before His departure (crucifixion) revealed if one reads all of chapter 17.

In verse 9, Christ even said “I pray for them. I do not pray for the world."

From John 17:1-5, Jesus was praying for Himself.
From John 17:6-19, Jesus was praying for His disciples.
From John 17:20-26, Jesus was praying for all believers.

John 17:1-26 NKJV
Jesus Prays for Himself
1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2 as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. 3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. 4 I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. 5 And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

Jesus Prays for His Disciples
6 “I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. 7 Now they have known that all things which You have given Me are from You. 8 For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me.

9 “I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours. 10 And all Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine, and I am glorified in them. 11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are. 12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled. 13 But now I come to You, and these things I speak in the world, that they may have My joy fulfilled in themselves. 14 I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 15 I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth. 18 As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.

Jesus Prays for All Believers
20 “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; 21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: 23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

24 “Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world. 25 O righteous Father! The world has not known You, but I have known You; and these have known that You sent Me. 26 And I have declared to them Your name, and will declare it, that the love with which You loved Me may be in them, and I in them.”

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John 17&version=NKJV

6) People say "I will raise him up at the last day" in John 6:40, 44 & 54 are rapture verses.

Once again it's not correct. On Christ's last day on earth, He resurrected the old testament saints just before He died on the cross. The last day was the last day of Christ on earth.

The last day is not after the tribulation as that would be the "first day of the millennium."

Matthew 27:50-53 NKJV
50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and yielded up His spirit.
51 Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, 52 and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; 53 and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many.

7) People say there's only ONE Day of the Lord and it's at the end of the tribulation. Well, the two witnesses come on the Day of the Lord.

That theory would mean the two witnesses would testify for 1260 days after the tribulation. This is totally illogical.

The fact is, there's TWO Days of the Lord and they come on the first Day of the Lord at the beginning of the tribulation when the temple is up for 42 months until it gets destroy in the midpoint at the abomination of desolation.

Malachi 4:4-6 NKJV
4 “Remember the Law of Moses, My servant,
Which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel,
With the statutes and judgments.
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.

Revelation 11:1-3 NKJV
1 Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.”

BABerean2 · Aug 26, 2015

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Left Behind or Led Astray?
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n2thelight · Aug 27, 2015

Psalm3704 said:
There's 3 places God doesn't want anyone to end up at.
1) Lake of Fire. This one's the worst.
2) Hell. Worst than the tribulation but not as bad as the Lake of Fire.
3) Great Tribulation. Many Christians don't know this but it'll be worst than death.

There's another scripture in the bible elsewhere that say the same thing but I can't remember where it's at.

Revelation 9:6 In those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will desire to die, and death will flee from them.

To prevent as many people as possible from ending up in the lake of fire, many will have to go through hell till they realize the truth in the bible, because many people, even many Christians are ignoring the bible.

But to save many people from going to hell, many more will be in the tribulation. The first half of the tribulation will be the greatest revival in the history of mankind. Many will turn to Christ.

Some Christians will be rapture, most will not. Verses taken from the Parable of the Wedding Feast.

Matthew 22:8 Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding is ready, but those who were invited were not worthy.

Matthew 22:14 “For many are called, but few are chosen.”

1) lake of fire-I'll agree this one is the worst ,for it is the end of the soul

2)Hell-need a clearer meaning of what you're saying

3)Great Tribulation-Is when we as Christians with the full armour of God,make a stand against satan without being deceived,ie,believing him to be the true Christ

Rev 9-6 Do you understand why men will not find death at that time?

Revelation 9:6 "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."

Many people who have sat in church all their lives looking for this "Rapture" to take place, in an instant will fall to Satan. When they finally wake up to the fact that they were deceived by Satan, the shame will be great and on them. These are those deceived Christians taken out of season who will pray for the mountains to fall on them. They will seek death, but it will not come. The death of this physical life will be over, and then all will be in the spirit, or soul body.
Paul tells us in I Corinthians 15:50-52 how at Christ's return, at the last trump; all will be changed, in the twinkling [wink] of an eye to a incorruptible body. No friend, you can not die, but must face the Savior in shame. Ignorance is no excuse, even though your pastor taught you to climb on the first wagon [rapture] out of here. You had God's Word in your home and hand, and it is your responsibility.

Question,what decides if a Christian makes it in the rapture(scripture please)thx

n2thelight · Aug 27, 2015

What would you all have us do with the below verse

John 17:15
"I pray not that Thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldest keep them from the evil."

Psalm3704 · Aug 28, 2015

n2thelight said:
What would you all have us do with the below verse

John 17:15
"I pray not that Thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldest keep them from the evil."

I answered someone about John 17:15 on page 4 of this thread here.

http://www.christianforums.com/thre...able-left-behind-or-led-astray.7901923/page-4

Jesus was praying for His disciples, not the world nor anyone else.

Psalm3704 · Aug 28, 2015

n2thelight said:
1) lake of fire-I'll agree this one is the worst ,for it is the end of the soul
2)Hell-need a clearer meaning of what you're saying

*Hell is not eternal. Lake of Fire is forever.

*Hell is like the local jail cell at the police station. The Lake of Fire is like the federal penitentiary where the worst sinners (humans and angels) who still refuse to acknowledge God and accept Christ as savior will go after already been in hell for punishment and their name still not found in the book of life (human).

*Hell is to convince people that didn't believe in God, heaven, hell, the devil, an afterlife. When an atheist dies without receiving Christ, they will get a chance to see hell with their eyes and flesh and know how real it is. 1000 years from now after being in hell, they will get a chance to stand before God at the great white throne to plead their case if they wish to repent and turn from sin.

*Punishment in hell will vary based on what a person has done in their life on earth regardless of religion. A muslim or a atheist who's a good person all their life will receive a lighter sentence than a professing Christian that sinned greatly who will be severely punish.

These are all in the bible. You just have to take all the many scriptures and put all the pieces together to know it.

n2thelight said:
3)Great Tribulation-Is when we as Christians with the full armour of God,make a stand against satan without being deceived,ie,believing him to be the true Christ

You're suppose to be fighting satan right now, not while you're in the tribulation. What about all those Christians that believed in a post-tribulation rapture and died already. How are they gonna be able to make a stand against satan and prove their faith in the tribulation?

In the tribulation, the beast owns you, not the other way around. The saints will be handed over to him (Dan 7) and will be beheaded (Rev 20:4). The beast comes into power at the 2nd half, you won't be able to do anything while enduring God's wrath.

People need to understand the 2nd half of the tribulation is all about execution. Christ will eliminate all those that refused salvation in Him and not found worthy after their testing in the first half. They will be sent to hell for further punishment till they repent.

Great Tribulation (2nd half) = Parable of the wheat and tare: Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43. Parable of the Judgement: Matthew 25:31-46.

n2thelight said:
Rev 9-6 Do you understand why men will not find death at that time?

Revelation 9:6 "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."

Yep, the tribulation is a time of testing. People will hate the test they're about to go through and will want to escape it but God will not allow them to die until the 2nd half of the tribulation. The first half is judgement (a time to trial), second half is wrath (a time of execution) for those that did not pass the judgment.

n2thelight said:
Many people who have sat in church all their lives looking for this "Rapture" to take place, in an instant will fall to Satan. When they finally wake up to the fact that they were deceived by Satan, the shame will be great and on them. These are those deceived Christians taken out of season who will pray for the mountains to fall on them. They will seek death, but it will not come. The death of this physical life will be over, and then all will be in the spirit, or soul body.
Paul tells us in I Corinthians 15:50-52 how at Christ's return, at the last trump; all will be changed, in the twinkling [wink] of an eye to a incorruptible body. No friend, you can not die, but must face the Savior in shame. Ignorance is no excuse, even though your pastor taught you to climb on the first wagon [rapture] out of here. You had God's Word in your home and hand, and it is your responsibility.

You have to truly understand 1 Corinthians 15 and God's big picture to understand 1 Corinthians 15:50-55. Most people's understanding of it is in error. It's not about the rapture.

n2thelight said:
Question,what decides if a Christian makes it in the rapture(scripture please)thx

Obey His commandments. perform righteous acts and stay faithful till the end..

n2thelight · Aug 28, 2015

Psalm3704 said:
I answered someone about John 17:15 on page 4 of this thread here.

http://www.christianforums.com/thre...able-left-behind-or-led-astray.7901923/page-4

Jesus was praying for His disciples, not the world nor anyone else.

Fair enough,thx again.........

Psalm3704 · Aug 28, 2015

n2thelight said:
Fair enough,thx again.........

No problem. :oldthumbsup:

BABerean2 · Aug 28, 2015

How will Christ return?

Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Act 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

Act 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1Th 5:10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

1Ti_6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

2Ti_4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2Ti_4:8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

Tit_2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

1Pe_1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

Christ is not returning "Secretly".

It will be loud and very visible.

Left Behind or Led Astray?

http://www.leftbehindorledastray.com/

n2thelight · Aug 31, 2015

Psalm3704 said:
I answered someone about John 17:15 on page 4 of this thread here.

http://www.christianforums.com/thre...able-left-behind-or-led-astray.7901923/page-4

Jesus was praying for His disciples, not the world nor anyone else.

So why were'nt they kept from evil,meaning they were overcome by evil...So did Christ lie or can you explain the meaning of the verse?

Also what is the indication that Christ was just talking to the Jew's and not the Church in Matt 24?

n2thelight · Sep 1, 2015

Okay how bout the below

Matthew 24:26 "Wherefore if they shall say unto you, 'Behold, He is in the desert;' go not forth: 'Behold, He is in the secret chambers;' believe it not."

This is for those who talk about tribulation saints,how will they explain the disapperance of the Church?

Meaning of the above verse to me is,if someone has to tell you Christ has came,He has'nt....

Psalm3704 · Sep 1, 2015

n2thelight said:
So why were'nt they kept from evil,meaning they were overcome by evil...So did Christ lie or can you explain the meaning of the verse?

Also what is the indication that Christ was just talking to the Jew's and not the Church in Matt 24?

n2thelight said:
Okay how bout the below

Matthew 24:26 "Wherefore if they shall say unto you, 'Behold, He is in the desert;' go not forth: 'Behold, He is in the secret chambers;' believe it not."

This is for those who talk about tribulation saints,how will they explain the disapperance of the Church?

Meaning of the above verse to me is,if someone has to tell you Christ has came,He has'nt....

I'm not too crazy about BABerean2 troll-bumping this thread but I'll be happy to answer your questions if you can copy/paste them to another thread, maybe one of your own or a new one.

BABerean2 · Sep 1, 2015

Luk_6:41 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Origin of the Pretrib Rapture Doctrine
http://www.answersinrevelation.org/pretrib_history.pdf

Grant Jeffrey’s revision of early Church Posttrib viewpoints
http://www.answersinrevelation.org/Jeffrey.pdf

PROPHETIC DEVELOPMENTS
with particular reference to the early Brethren Movement.
F. Roy Coad (Brethren Historian) read pages 10-26

http://brethrenhistory.org/qwicsitePro/php/docsview.php?docid=418

History of the Irvingite "Secret Rapture" Doctrine...

Left Behind or Led Astray?

http://www.leftbehindorledastray.com/

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Psalm3704 · Sep 1, 2015

BABerean2 said:
Luk_6:41 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Origin of the Pretrib Rapture Doctrine
http://www.answersinrevelation.org/pretrib_history.pdf

Grant Jeffrey’s revision of early Church Posttrib viewpoints
http://www.answersinrevelation.org/Jeffrey.pdf

PROPHETIC DEVELOPMENTS
with particular reference to the early Brethren Movement.
F. Roy Coad (Brethren Historian) read pages 10-26

http://brethrenhistory.org/qwicsitePro/php/docsview.php?docid=418

History of the Irvingite "Secret Rapture" Doctrine...

Left Behind or Led Astray?

http://www.leftbehindorledastray.com/

I figured you would continue troll bumping this thread, so I've edited my first post on the front page with this additional information.

http://www.christianforums.com/threads/new-video-now-available-left-behind-or-led-astray.7901923/

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Those seeking the truth, read the bible carefully as it is the source of all truth, not a manmade video.

The video offers $10k to anyone that can produce a scripture revealing a pre-tribulation rapture. Well, here's two scriptures showing the church raptured into heaven before the tribulation.

Isaiah 26:19 - 27:1 KJV
19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
21 For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
1 In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.

Hebrews 12:22-29 KJV
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29 For our God is a consuming fire.

Other Pre-Trib Verses

1 Peter 1:3-5 ESV
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4 to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you,
5 who by God’s power are being guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.