the power of the holy people broken & the muslim invasion of the usa

As it was in the seven day war, which was not humanly possible, Israel backed by acts of God in so many ways, won.

Wow...whacky theory.

How can people be so prepared to build a theory on unsubstantiated assumptions?

Fact: Islam will grow anywhere it is found. Simply because they have more babies than anyone.

Fact: Syria is not the West's or the US' fault. Westerners are too ready to take the blame for everything and also too ready to put the blame on the political forces they are against. Hence, anti-Obama folks blame him, and anti-GOP'er blame the Bushes. The fact is that the blame rests on the Syrian president.

Fact: The US is not taking many Syrian refugees. Europe is and it's still not a significant number per capita.

Fact: Syrian refugees need help. They are not the enemy. They are the victim.

Fact: contrary to the OP, IS is trying to become a state. They are building a government, a welfare system, a proper military arm and have in place a legal system. The Caliphate is a budding state without recognition. Yes, they are Satanic, and yes they are heinously criminal, deceptive and blood-thirsty and (I believe) the same demons that held power over Hitler have inhabited their leadership. But they want a world-wide caliphate and thus by definition it needs to be a state.

Alithis said:

ok this is going to be a mouth full of theories of interest -it is not a statement but a collection of theories and current observations from a lay persons perspective .

many years ago the lord showed me that for many of the endtime laws to come into play the judeo/ christian based law system would need to be removed ..ie islamic type rule would prevail. i was a lot younger at the time and did not appreciate the full implications of that .

with the four blood moons some folks have looked for singular large events transpiring .. but to do so we miss the big picture .. over the course of these first 3 blood moons the world has utterly begun turning on its head -the states has implemented what is the most blatant law against God ever declared in the sodomite marriage issue - this action brought the final straw and announced noah's flood . it brought the axe down on the cities of sodom and gomorrah and it now precedes the judgment that is coming upon the earth as the cup of the indignation of God can contain no more .It runneth over.

now - to the theories . for many years now people have been wondering about the internment type camps being built in the states ..many a theory has been thrown around and some may yet turn out to true at a later date .. this is another theory and i find it relevant and in no way far fetched .

we know that obama announced on algeraz (spell) tv that he would turn america into a muslim state (scource needed).. we know that through funds to egypt and many other ways that the syrian crises and isis is funded from the states (indirectly) .We can observe that isis is not trying to make itself a nation .. it is simply invading and killing mercilessly and driving people out in the millions by fear .

these refuges will only increase as isis advances in number we know it is already causing a serious crises and tension in italy and greece and in all likelihood will flair into ground wars ... ( and many other factors playing to culminate into this humanitarian crisis ...


what to look for for any of this theory to be true -> look for obama(or cohorts) to stand up and be a wonderful hero and offer to "take in" all these refugees (into pre prepared internment camps throughout the states which we know are already built and sitting empty) in their hundreds of thousands and in one single year the islamic cause will import voters .. some states will be overwhelmed in a short time by sheer numbers of islamic influence in society and will vote in muslim leaders and governors and the states will become a muslim country ...
Now if the taking in of these refugees does not occur ..this theory is a load of bollocks - but if we see the state's offer to take these refugees when the crisis become an unsolvable issue -then this theory is no longer theory .

whats it got to do with the power of the holy people being broken -> the power of Israel military and financial is the backing from the usa (is it not so?) ..ifv this influx of muslim refugees occurs and the inevitable conversion of the sates happens ..then this military and financial backing will be cut off. and israel's ability to defend itself from those means will be broken .. they will sign, by sheer force of coercion, a self preserving peace treaty with the muslims nations collective .. and that treaty will not be honoured but broken and the son of perdition wil rise and sit himself in the (yet to be constructed ) temple in jerusalem ...

all these events leading to this theoretic scenario have accumulated over the past 3 blood moons - is this not of interest ?

it is prophesied that the beast (spirit of antichrist ) will gain power over the nations by deceit and subterfuge- not by open war . paint all these "bits" into a big picture and it is happening before our very eyes .

as I said this is not a statement but an open minded observation -what think you

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I know now we want in our mind to stop the suffering .. to get christians out of there , but the only christians we know for sure are christians are the dead ones since it is ok even encouraged for islamics to lie to farther their causes of giving peoples dead ancestors a bad name. oh what a mess. how could you know who is and isn't . is there a human that is trust worthy other than the Lord ?

Alithis said:

watching this theory with quiet interest ...

-refugee crisis ...

-instigated by indirect usa funded syrian civil war

-with intent to forcibly spread islam through europe to the states by simple numbers .

- islam "may" invade the unitedstates in higher numbers then any military invasion could ever achieve and fire not a single bullet .

- if-- america stands up and takes in vast numbers of the refugees

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Ohhhh that is right up O's alley

May I present a view of an European residing in Asia:
What I see what happens in Europe leaves me speechless. If Germany or Europe will survive, the leftist liberal movement and their leaders will be judged as traitors. Now I like to speak about the forgotten God’s people, the thousands Christian Pakistani refugees in South East Asia. They are fleeing the active persecution from fundamental Islamists in Pakistan and the Pakistani government is unwilling to protect them. These refugees are not helped from anyone except some small Christian NGOs with very limited means. They are living miserably there since years. The UNHCR in Bangkok are denying refugee status to most of them, the agency is largely influenced by Muslims in Bangkok. There are also Catholic Pakistani refugees there. The Vatican would have rather better sheltering two Pakistani Catholic families in lieu to submit to the political correctness destroying Europe.

Rachel Rachel said:

We know one of the "opening acts" of the anti-Christ will be to financially save the nations that have gone broke by taking in these millions of migrants/refugees. And it will happen - no country can support that many new people.

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New world order... all national debt forgiven, every body is set up a cashless account, and value is given. Sounds great....

I think it's dangerous to speculate about the NWO. There are so many involved and so many things to take into consideration. However, I believe that the obsession with Islam and Muslims is a distraction. If one does the research one can see that many if not all of these so-called "terrorist" attacks and now, conveniently ISIL or ISIS (interesting acronym) have been orchestrated by Western powers I.E. our own government or other first world governments.

Why would they do this? Several reasons. 1) Whenever there is a scapegoat, the real threat goes unpunished and remains hidden. 2) Most people and Christians instinctively hate Muslims and Islam so they won't think to look behind the curtain and see who's really pulling the strings. Why would you look for the real enemy when you already have the one you want? 3) It allows them to maintain the status quo and thus, maintain power. No one questions it, except those wacky and totally off-the-wall "conspiracy theorists" sitting in their houses with their tin foil hats, and so no one sees the real threat. No one can question or even investigate these claims because they're shut down and called insensitive. "How could you say something like that! People/kids died! You disgust me!" And notice, in all of these narratives they perpetuate some form of loss of life so that people do exactly this. 4) Those in power enjoy the benefits of their pseudo-colonialism: oil, war profits, land, etc. 5) There are always other benefits that are behind the scenes that we will never hear about. Some have speculated that the real reason for the War in Iraq was that there was a Stargate intact in one of the ruins of Babylon that the US wanted to acquire. We'll never know. But the truth is stranger than fiction. In short, they're giving us exactly what we want, in a completely obvious way, but why? What or who are they hiding? What's the purpose of this?

Now does this mean that Obama isn't the antichrist or a Muslim? I don't know, he is a very evil man but it seems obvious to me that they're playing this up for us. If Islam has any part in the NWO, I believe it will be a cog in the machine, not the the machine itself. One thing is for certain and that is that there are occult powers directing this global chess match. The really important figures, those who are actually to blame for these events, we will never see. Or if we do see them, they will be portrayed as gentle lambs, incapable of the slaughter they perform on a regular basis.

Freemason and Civil War General Albert Pike predicted three world wars to usher in the NWO. Two have already come and gone, so that leaves the question, where are we on the third war?

About the last war, he wrote that their goal was to pit Political Zionism against the Muslims in a brutal war that would annihilate both, while leaving the Christians to contend and lose against the cultural nihilists and atheists. Finally they would eliminate their useful idiots, the atheists. The disillusionment with the Abrahamic religions and the atheists would cause the people of the world to accept Luciferianism, which is their goal. This sounds to me like Revelations, where the people take the Mark of the Beast and if it were not for the shortening of those days not even the elect would be spared.

Albert Pike's actual words are the following:
"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

It would be interesting to keep an eye on Pope Francis, especially because he is going to address Congress soon. He seems to be at once building up spirituality while destroying conventional religion, similar to what Pike detailed in his letter.

Also, these are some great videos detailing why terrorist attacks and ISIS are probably staged and not real:

"Fake Terror And The War For Your Mind"

"EXPLAINED: Why the Isis Beheading Videos are Fake"

"algeraz"

Al-Jazeera

"Now does this mean that Obama isn't the antichrist or a Muslim?"

If you think he is either, then I don't know what to say.

The antichrist, Biblically, is not revealed until the 5th trumpet (See Rev. 9:11).

To make clear my point, here is a list of the preceeding 4 trumpets:

Rev. 8:
7The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down on the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up.

8The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, 9a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.

10The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water— 11the name of the star is Wormwood.a A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.

12The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night.

13As I watched, I heard an eagle that was flying in midair call out in a loud voice: “Woe! Woe! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth, because of the trumpet blasts about to be sounded by the other three angels!”

ALL these things must happen before the Antichrist is even revealed:

...the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon that is, Destroyer. (Rev. 9:11)

Hoshiyya said:

"Now does this mean that Obama isn't the antichrist or a Muslim?"

If you think he is either, then I don't know what to say.

The antichrist, Biblically, is not revealed until the 5th trumpet (See Rev. 9:11).

To make clear my point, here is a list of the preceeding 4 trumpets:

Rev. 8:
7The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down on the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up.

8The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, 9a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.

10The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water— 11the name of the star is Wormwood.a A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.

12The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night.

13As I watched, I heard an eagle that was flying in midair call out in a loud voice: “Woe! Woe! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth, because of the trumpet blasts about to be sounded by the other three angels!”

ALL these things must happen before the Antichrist is even revealed:

the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon that is, Destroyer. (Rev. 9:11)

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For the record, I don't think he is either. But I didn't want to make any absolute pronouncements either way as I am still new to the faith.

I think Obama is a false antichrist, as in the antichrist that everyone wants, a physical and materialistic antichrist rather than a more spiritual one.

It is like herding cattle... make lots of noise and chase them in the direction you want them to go. Pretty soon you will have them all corralled up for branding.

Iscah said:

For the record, I don't think he is either. But I didn't want to make any absolute pronouncements either way as I am still new to the faith.

I think Obama is a false antichrist, as in the antichrist that everyone wants, a physical and materialistic antichrist rather than a more spiritual one.

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Well said.

To be honest, even aside from the problem of the 4 trumpets having to be sounded before the Antichrist is revealed, it seems Hitler was so much more of an antichrist than Obama that Obama pales in comparison.

If Hitler was not the antichrist, how can Obama be the antichrist ?

It is a simple argument, but I think it is hard to argue against it...

If Obama is the antichrist, then the antichrist is better than Hitler, which is too wrong for words.