What would it take for non-RC Christians to join the RCC?

BobRyan said:

Since that post a number of people have posted "Bible issues" as the difference.

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Who were EO? I don't think so. Provide the quotes.

LoveofTruth said:

They were in error and God was patient with them.

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Then why does scripture not condemn them? There was opportunity for both James and Paul to say something against the practice, but both were silent. In their silence, they approve.

miamited said:

I'm not sure that I follow your line of reasoning here. Do you even know what an agnostic is? They have faith, they just don't believe they can know the one in whom their faith is in.

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An agnostic is a person who doesn't know whether God exists or not.

LoveofTruth said:

No, we are born again by the word of God

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Why do you say NO? I provided scripture just as you did. Sometimes there is more than one right answer.

LoveofTruth said:

When you add water baptism to the gospel, you make another gospel.

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So you disagree with Peter in Acts. That's okay. Not everyone is a Bible believing Christian.

Open Heart said:

The Nazarene church where I grew up. It was unthinkable that these things be altered.

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Hi OH,

You should really 'think' about your answers before you post. There are also fellowships that have long had red carpet to whom it would be unthinkable to change the color of the carpet, but that doesn't mean it's based on some biblical value or tradition. Sure, I can imagine a fellowship where someone might ask, "Well, why do you always feel you have to have an altar call?", and the answer might be that that's the way it's always been done and we don't want to change. That doesn't mean that they are doing it by some command of the Lord, but it is just what they are used to and comfortable with and aren't interested in changing. I've been in fellowships where I'd suggest some more modern music and been met with a wall of those who clamor that no, this is the way it's always been. But they aren't playing the particular music that they are playing because they believe it some command of the Scriptures or tradition of the body of believers at large. It's just what they are comfortable with in their sphere of worship.

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted

If Communion required an entire chalice of wine, I might consider the Roman Church

Open Heart said:

It depends on the church.

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What denominations are you thinking of?

Open Heart said:

An agnostic is a person who doesn't know whether God exists or not.

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Hi OH,

Good! You're correct. And if you look up Merriam Websters definition of the word, you will also find this:

a person who does not believe or is unsure of something.

That second sounds pretty much like your self-description of yourself:

Arguing for the positions I have chosen to believe, but don't necessarily have a strong faith for...

Anyway, my sincere apologies if I have made you feel beaten upon and know that it isn't my goal here to do so. I will leave you alone, but I would ask in all sincerity that you pray about these things and set a goal to read the Scriptures through. I believe you'll find, if you read through the whole of the Scriptures, that God has set out a perfect and glorious plan for us. If you're interested, I'll be happy to share with you what I have gleaned from the Scriptures.

Sincerely, may God richly bless you with the love and wisdom that only He can give and sustain.
In Christ, Ted

miamited said:

There are also fellowships that have long had red carpet to whom it would be unthinkable to change the color of the carpet, but that doesn't mean it's based on some biblical value or tradition.

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If they have long had red carpet and can't see changing it, then it is indeed a tradition. It doesn't have to be biblical to be a tradition. Most traditions are not Biblical. Eating Turkey at Thanksgiving is a tradition that is not Biblical.

Hank77 said:

What denominations are you thinking of?

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I was thinking of the old Nazarene church I used to attend. It was unthinkable that the pastor not give an altar call for example. What? Not invite people to receive Jesus? What if there was an unbeliever in the pew, and he missed his chance?

miamited said:

Anyway, my sincere apologies if I have made you feel beaten upon and know that it isn't my goal here to do so

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Don't worry! You have been absolutely fine! Iron sharpens iron. By chatting with those of a different opinion, it makes me think. After all, I'm not always right. And if I am right, it helps me clarify my thinking. You just keep right on being yourself.

Albion said:

Yours is an account that could be told by most of the people involved with one of the approximately 100,000 annulments that are granted annually by "the Church" in the USA alone.

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More lies......

Here is the truth.

http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Item/470/annulment_nation.aspx

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...met-among-us-catholics-amid-fewer-m/?page=all

Open Heart said:

I think you might be unfamiliar with the four spiritual laws. They are a common tract:

1. God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life.
2. Humanity is tainted by sin and is therefore separated from God. As a result, we cannot know God's wonderful plan for our lives.
3. Jesus Christ is God's only provision for our sin. Through Jesus Christ, we can have our sins forgiven and restore a right relationship with God.
4. We must place our faith in Jesus Christ as Savior in order to receive the gift of salvation and know God's wonderful plan for our lives.

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And this tract is a mandatory tradition of what denomination? These statements are a tiny bit opinion and mostly scriptural facts. What is in this tract that you find is not scriptural and therefore traditions of men.

Dialogist said:

I am sure this is ground that has been trodden over and over again, but I am curious about your opinion on this.

(I converted from the Roman Catholic Church to the Eastern Orthodox Church five years ago)

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I am sad to see you leave His Church. I will offer my rosary for you tonight and ask the Blessed Mother to draw you back to her Son.

I never said to forsake scripture!! God forbid!!

I said the old covenant was done away and the law for them as they were trying to follow

concretecamper said:

I am sad to see you leave His Church. I will offer my rosary for you tonight and ask the Blessed Mother to draw you back to her Son.

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I appreciate that. I can use everyone's prayers for sure.

Just curious, though, why you used the expression "draw you back to her Son". You mean that entering the Orthodox Church is synonymous with abandoning the Lord?

Open Heart said:

Yes, you drove everyone nuts with it. If you start up the topic again I wont participate a second time.

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You only go "nuts" when you fight against God's order

Open Heart said:

Why do you say NO? I provided scripture just as you did. Sometimes there is more than one right answer.

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I said , No because you preached another gospel and water baptism is not for salvation

No, you don't understand the saving baptism, the saving baptism is not water baptism or the baptism with the Holy Ghost it is the baptism into Christ by one Spirit.

And Acts 2:38 you also misunderstand

It really is a 46 hour talk