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I don't love God enough and I don't mind condemning myself for that. I have not found myself able to love as God loves because I would not love God if he did not love me.

God is Love, it's who He IS....And He created you in That Love, so guess what it doesn't matter, again it is our perspective.
When we see through the Relationship of The Son towards His Father it is enough for us all.

And you know something sweetie, no matter if our hearts sometimes condemn us, God is Greater than our Hearts, isn't that Awesome?!!!
 
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I don't love God enough and I don't mind condemning myself for that. I have not found myself able to love as God loves because I would not love God if he did not love me.

To live in the present moment is to know you love the Father with all your being, to even think of the past moment is to know that in that past moment you did love Him less than you do in the next, so forgive yourself of that past moment because .... whether you know it or not ... you love Him more with all your being from one moment to the next ... knowing that with each passing moment you love Him more because in the previous moment you did love Him less ..... for that is His work in you for Himself
 
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Momentary thinking process is ... Process, Nox :oldthumbsup:. This is not a non understanding of the comdemnation the mind latches on to and may dwell there for a time... For me, one is starting to understand "us" . A key component that none are righteous , so, do I dwell there? Do I let the thought steal His Joy placed on this heart? Try this picture... A negative weasles into the mind and it is entertained in the mind and it steals Joy. For me, utterence in tongue combats this greatly so the mind wanders not as much on my own. The "For Me" is only a gate to concider ...Does Nox need a prayer tongue (you may already posess this armor)? For "us"/humanity we are creatures of labor that need constant positive reinforcement, and "there" is our limitation. All humans fall under that under the Fig/positivity and thistles/negativity. These things you already know in your your ~Spirit~ read of the Word in Geneses where figs and thistles mean more than what is is front of us on the page :oldthumbsup:. A mind/us/humanity must be concidered in the equation of truth= Rom:3:10.
From the Pope to the depraved. So, for me, how does one function? In madness, or a mind of forgiveness/love/grace/ unfathomable in Lights name to the best of a limited human mind? For me, if a negative weasles through the armor it is just a reminder of my place. To lose pride and praise Him firstly, only, and humble self that I only function through Light/God/Agape/Grace, Gods Will... unfathomable. This one sees you in our likeness Nox and by the time ya read this you and God have already reasoned the Truth :oldthumbsup:. And for above reminders sake in the terminology get in the Spirit and give this a listen...
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=faceless+man+creed

No disrespect to the thread x141 :oldthumbsup: just a build up of a brother to meet them where there at in humbleness.
 
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No disrespect to the thread x141 :oldthumbsup: just a build up of a brother to meet them where there at in humbleness.

I no longer think in terms of left and right. though it is where left and right as an end has brought me.
 
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Touch the unclean thing and it scatters you; it is the perception that we by touching it are unclean which becomes the image of self that does the scattering (even to the point that this is what God becomes to us), if you offend in one you offend in it all, and in all; it becomes an whosoever sins you hold … all of this by thought, which Jesus said we cannot add to ourselves hence, take away from ourselves by. It is the difference between soul (as a man thinketh in his heart so is he) and spirit as the truth of always having been.
 
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(To touch on a few things, and for what it’s worth) this is very condensed, like saying fifty things at once (pun intended) Symbolism is in everything, pigs, cities, trees, woods, … and the two she bears that come out of them, (to understand why this many children as it corresponds to what they said, one must begin to understand the forties and two’s in scripture as to how they reflect truths regarding the masculine and the feminine which deals with process) or such things as why to tables of stone, why two mountains (blessing and cursing) or how many times the children of Israel encamped in the wilderness (fifty times) or Moses goes up and receives the commandments on the day of Pentecost (which is the word fifty) his first forty) which he ascends again for a 2nd forty (and why Paul would refer to this mountain as Hagar whose son is not accepted no more than Joseph’s was, or Cain, or Esau, all fist borns); or why Moses tells them to be ready on the third day and why he said come not at thy wives, or after three days Jesus is called to a marriage feast) which (back to the fifty) the year of jubilee is year fifty after seven Sabbaths of years are fulfilled, which all correspond to spiritual truths of the process happening in us and all around us. It is the language of scripture, and why you find things like Isaac who brought forth an hundredfold in the land even though there was a famine, or Jesus who was light that shined in darkness, who brought forth an hundredfold in the land, though there was a famine of the word of God (thy word is a light).
 
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Ephesians 4:8-1 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive (which is defined as something less then this measure of this fullness …

The following verses defines the word gifts and what it is in relationship to the son of God we are, which without being individual it cannot be collective.

Genesis 21:10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac.

Genesis 21:12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous (and it grieved God that he had made man on the earth) in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

Genesis 25:6But unto the sons of the concubines, which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward, unto the east country.
 
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The New Jerusalem cannot sin (which being brought to a desolation is the end of) ... or in other verbiage, but not at all limited to this, or by this), nothing enters into her that defiles her, or one that worketh or maketh a lie (there is a light of one that lights the city, just as there is a tree that is in the midst and on either side) not just banks a river flows through) which is pictured in different forms throughout scripture).

Until Babylon becomes desolate you do not see the bride, just as for the picture found in Job, who God brought to the end of his reasoning) a trying until it comes forth), he does not get a new wife, but new children, which become a law of life to him (seven sons, three daughters), whose daughters receive an inheritance among the sons, which is the picture of our soul and the reasoning thereof; one that is without labor, where we begin to see only as he sees, a truth of the third day, found in the three that reveal process of reasoning, or time, throughout scripture, such as the two weeks of Jacob who served in his father's father's household for a wife (remembering that God had told Abraham Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee).
 
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This is increadible X, i am just reading this now, but i was in conversation with someone about this very thing to them before I read this.

which is the picture of our soul and the reasoning thereof; one that is without labor, where we begin to see only as he sees, a truth of the third day, found in the three that reveal process of reasoning, or time, throughout scripture, such as the two weeks of Jacob who served in his father's father's household for a wife (remembering that God had told Abraham Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee).

And this may be in different verbage but I see it as the same thing you are talking about here.

The Lord showed me there are 3 days, three heavens in scripture, and therfore there are 3 levels of our assension in Him, or 3 levels of our understanding that takes us higher in Him. (it is the process of the soul). The first of course is the natural way we read scripture and are influence by what we are taught of men. The second is Spiritual and mixed with the first, therefore it causes us to start to question everything now, which is lead of course by The spirit of God into the wilderness to be tempted. The third level heaven of understanding is what Paul talks about when he says, that it is not lawful for us to speak of, to certain people that have not been prepare by Him. We are always ready and able to give to anyone who ask us, for the hope that is within us, yes, but, .....some things are not meant to be discussed except for those who have already seen them of The Lord Himself. Or through His eyes.

Do you know x141 on here? (end of convo.)
 
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This is increadible X, i am just reading this now, but i was in conversation with someone about this very thing to them before I read this.



And this may be in different verbage but I see it as the same thing you are talking about here.

The Lord showed me there are 3 days, three heavens in scripture, and therfore there are 3 levels of our assension in Him, or 3 levels of our understanding that takes us higher in Him. (it is the process of the soul). The first of course is the natural way we read scripture and are influence by what we are taught of men. The second is Spiritual and mixed with the first, therefore it causes us to start to question everything now, which is lead of course by The spirit of God into the wilderness to be tempted. The third level heaven of understanding is what Paul talks about when he says, that it is not lawful for us to speak of, to certain people that have not been prepare by Him. We are always ready and able to give to anyone who ask us, for the hope that is within us, yes, but, .....some things are not meant to be discussed except for those who have already seen them of The Lord Himself. Or through His eyes.

Do you know x141 on here? (end of convo.)

It is the same thing and just one of the many ways it is depicted throughout scripture, but for it to be unlawful to speak does not mean it was wrong, but the words cannot be found for it, which is where I am, it is where you are ... truth is not of dispensation, dispensation is of the soul.
 
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