Satanic Temple unveils goat-headed statue in Detroit

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Red Fox said:

If Christians can have public displays of the Ten Commandments or Nativity scenes, then Satanists can have statutes placed on public display too. Muslims can also have public displays of their religion, as can any other religious people in this country. It would be their constitutional right and it would be protected religious expression.

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It really is that simple. And the only justification I've ever heard for why Christians should receive special exemption from key parts of the constitution is "because there are loads of us", as if the constitution should only apply to majority groups, or as if it's some kind of buffet, from which you can pick and choose when it suits.

These satanists are basically trolls, but they are making a valid point. If no Christians in America ever ignored the consitution and erected religious displays on public property, and if none of them ever argued that they should be a special case when it comes to freedom of religion, then I'm absolutely certain this statue would not exist.

Red Fox said:

I snagged this from another thread in the OBOB forum.

Satanic Temple unveils goat-headed statue in Detroit

The freedom of religion at work in this country.

It looks like some people might be struggling with the concept that freedom of religion goes for all religions in this country and not just their own.

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Wow, it appears that this may be a region occupied by a demonic prince, which explains the substandard quality of life that this city has suffered. Many would outwardly blame it on the auto industry but beneath what is seen is the unseen world: "We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places."Eph.6:12

In the poverty stricken countries of the world, you can be sure that an evil spiritual entity is governing. False religions, whether Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, or Atheistic countries suffer from poverty and the pronounced evils. Satan has many schemes, whichever religion or philosophy that leads people away from Christ is by his design and they suffer for it. Even if you don't believe he exists -- that's good enough for him, he's got you.

Also, something else came to mind when I saw this. During the Great Tribulation period (which I do think we are entering into very soon), a statue of the antichrist will be worshipped. What if this statue is the one and we start seeing them appearing all over the world?

There really should be something like the academy award for trolling.

Responses to this statue quickly indicate whether a person supports religious liberty or religious privilege.

Satanic Temple unveils goat-headed statue in Detroit

Ronald said:

Wow, it appears that this may be a region occupied by a demonic prince, which explains the substandard quality of life that this city has suffered..................

Also, something else came to mind when I saw this.
During the Great Tribulation period (which I do think we are entering into very soon), a statue of the antichrist will be worshipped.
What if this statue is the one and we start seeing them appearing all over the world?

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As long as it doesn't start walking around, I won't be too worried about it......

Exodus 20:4
Not thou shall make unto thyself an idol/eidwlon #1497, any representation which in heavens from above, and which in land beneath, and which in waters from beneath to land.

Reve 9:20
and the rests of the men who not were killed in these blows, not repent out of the works of the hands of them,
that no they should be worshipping the demons and the idols/eidwla <1497> of the gold and the silver and the brass/copper and the stone and the wood,
which neither to be seeing are able, nor to be hearing nor to be walking-about.
[Exodus 20:4/1 John 5:21]

The metal Minaton brought to life in the movie "Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger"

I do not support their religion, but I support their right to believe and worship as they see fit.
If they are a socially excepted religion (no living sacrifices in the streets or other anti-social behaviors) then they have a right to worship as they see fit, including making idols for their god(s).[note: the "s" is not to mock anyone's gods, just placed in case someone out there believes/worships more then one god.]

Lazy_Proverb said:

Unveiled everywhere but their own city. Isn't that curious?

ST is an atheist bunch committed to religious satire and led by a man living under an alias.
The statue isn't a true reckoning of the Eliphas Levi Baphomet, known as , The Devil of Astral Light. (He was not the originator of this idol) This is because there are little children carved near the Baphomet base. This does not exist on the original of EL. But then again Eliphas Levi exacted his own artistic license when he designed his goat god. As did Aleister Crowley.

This Detroit creature was designed by TS specifically to invoke the Levi Baphomet image while mocking the scriptures as relates to Jesus invocation, suffer the little children to come unto me. Luke 18:16, Matthew 19:14, as example.

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Even if that was the case, recognizing it as satire doesn't follow to it being anything of a personal insult except when you overlap your religion with your sense of self worth. People can satirize anime fans, doesn't make me feel personally hurt by it anymore than poking fun at Christianity means one bears ill will towards Christians.

What do you know of Satanism that you think raising a child in that environment is innately bad? Something looking scary shouldn't be the determinant of it being evil: don't we teach kids this from an early enough age?

Fireinfolding said:

The freedom of religions has pretty much always existed among the Gentiles to serve othe gods and/or idols as people tend to gravitate to images again and again.

I think it might become more problematic (constitutionally so) if it ever comes to offering children to the same

But people these days, might be doing the same but considered to be a bit more sophisticated in the sacrificing their children (unto death) yeilding themselves unto the one they serve (in more of the invisible sense of who they do). Whereas long ago I heard their children were placed into the burning hands of an idol (as an offering) and then have to listen to the child scream in pain till death overtook them. Now its like they put them into the hands of those trained in killing them in the womb (where their screams cannot be heard). Well, I saw where the babies appear in the ultrasound itself to be screaming (and moving away from the instrument taking their life) as if feeling the pain but they cant be heard in the womb.

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Appear to scream, but cannot technically be heard even if they were, which is doubtful.

You're reaching up to hyperbole to say people are going to sacrifice children to the Baphomet statue in Detroit, even if Detroit is compared to hell on earth to my understanding.

This is really cool. Just one more reason to try and travel one day.

I like designs like this a whole lot.

Ronald said:

Wow, it appears that this may be a region occupied by a demonic prince, which explains the substandard quality of life that this city has suffered. Many would outwardly blame it on the auto industry but beneath what is seen is the unseen world: "We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places."Eph.6:12

In the poverty stricken countries of the world, you can be sure that an evil spiritual entity is governing. False religions, whether Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, or Atheistic countries suffer from poverty and the pronounced evils. Satan has many schemes, whichever religion or philosophy that leads people away from Christ is by his design and they suffer for it. Even if you don't believe he exists -- that's good enough for him, he's got you.

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Eh... that sounds too much like health-and-wealth
gospel teaching, there. Otherwise, there'd be no such
thing as a poverty-stricken Christian, or a wealthy
non-Christian.


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Fireinfolding said:

The freedom of religions has pretty much always existed among the Gentiles to serve othe gods and/or idols as people tend to gravitate to images again and again.

I think it might become more problematic (constitutionally so) if it ever comes to offering children to the same

But people these days, might be doing the same but considered to be a bit more sophisticated in the sacrificing their children (unto death) yeilding themselves unto the one they serve (in more of the invisible sense of who they do). Whereas long ago I heard their children were placed into the burning hands of an idol (as an offering) and then have to listen to the child scream in pain till death overtook them. Now its like they put them into the hands of those trained in killing them in the womb (where their screams cannot be heard). Well, I saw where the babies appear in the ultrasound itself to be screaming (and moving away from the instrument taking their life) as if feeling the pain but they cant be heard in the womb.

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Idol's aren't statues anymore in today's world.

muichimotsu said:

Appear to scream, but cannot technically be heard even if they were, which is doubtful.

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Yeah their mouths open as they move within the womb away from the hurtful instruments

You can see this child do the same at around 16 minutes in here


That is what I was talking about. I have another post in ethics showing what tools are used in the process and how the baby is killed in his or her mother.

You're reaching up to hyperbole to say people are going to sacrifice children to the Baphomet statue in Detroit, even if Detroit is compared to hell on earth to my understanding.

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Well, these children are just cement (or is it bronze?) I'm not sure,
I understand there is a replica (made of one thing) and another goat masterpiece in a special location.



No, what I said is that it would become more problematic (constitutionally so) if they would literally begin such an ancient custom before the goat thing as was done before the idol Moloch in the days of old.

Which is why I brought in how much more sophisticated (these days) is the sacrificing of children. That its not typically done so before such a figure (not so much anymore) which was my point, or at least what I was aiming for (and that particular figure even has children built right "into" its own design).

I was trying to steer away from the thought of any sort of ritualistic performance of sacrifice of ones child before "an outward" idol but how a similar sacrifice is still done (apart from the same) moreso for the god of self (an inward heart of stone) which fits within that sphere of murdering ones own offspring (or abortion) in otherwords. I didnt want it to turn into that topic, there was just a comparison.

But your right, it is the perfect place for such an idol, maybe it is standing exactly "where it ought" given hell would gladly receive what belongs to itself, I suppose, and Detroit is like hell on earth. Its where they slay one another being one of the murder capitals of the world, and so even (in that sense) would be serving Satan right there alone.

ChristsSoldier115 said:

Idol's aren't statues anymore in today's world.

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Idols can be inward or outward both are shown in scripture.

Fireinfolding said:

Idols can be inward or outward both are shown in scripture.

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They were always inward.

Living children are built into this horned goat statue



Shows children growing up and with the goat