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Probability of Origin of Life by Chance just went way UP.
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My guess is that it has been relegated to the COLD CASE files.
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Obviously, the money comes from baby-eating satanic atheists and Satan and his minions.
Ok, seriously though....
No. And I couldn't care less.
Some funding comes from government, some come from universities, some come from private foundations.
Scientific research is scientific research. No matter who pays for it.
I'ld assume the funding comes from similar places as any other scientific investigation/research project.
I don't see how it matters either. The validity of research is in the research, not in who pays for it.
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Ok. Could you link to this research at least?
Or do I just have to take your word on it.
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I don't spend my days following every single research team in the world.
So no, I don't have any links available. I would have to go look for them and dig them up.
Now that I think of it, last year, I saw a documentary in which there was a guy who lead a research team investigating abiogenesis. They were working under a grant from NASA, presumably to link the research to the Mars mission of Curiosity.
Don't really remember the dude's name.
Perhaps someone else here can help you.
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Your answer was that "Science was working on it" and since you are so adamantly
pursuing "Dogma" ( set of beliefs that is accepted by the members of a group without being questioned or doubted)
I would have thought you would avoid such activities and support your dogma with facts.
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Knowing that science is working on it is not the same as knowing the exact details of which team in which university and with which money.
I assume that there is ongoing research into abiogenesis hypothesis, that is true.
As said, it doesn't interest me enough to follow every single team everywhere in the world and read every single journal.
As also said, I've seen documentaries wich featured interviews with scientists, whose names I don't recall, who were working in this field. In this case, they were connected to NASA.
If you are so interested in it, why don't you simply look it up?
EDIT: since you seem incredibly lazy, I just opened up the abiogenesis article on wikipedia.
Among other interesting information, there are these mentions:
In 2012, Jørgensen's team reported the detection of glycolaldehyde in a distant star system.
NASA announced in 2009 that scientists had identified another fundamental chemical building block of life in a comet for the first time, glycine, an amino acid, which was detected in material ejected from comet Wild 2 in 2004 and grabbed by NASA's Stardust probe
In 2010, PAHs, along with fullerenes (or "buckyballs"), have been detected in nebulae.[230][231]
In March 2015, NASA scientists reported that, for the first time, complex DNA and RNA organic compounds of life, including uracil, cytosine and thymine, have been formed in the laboratory under outer space conditions, using starting chemicals, such as pyrimidine, found in meteorites. Pyrimidine, like PAHs, the most carbon-rich chemical found in the Universe, may have been formed in red giant stars or in interstellar dust and gas clouds
Seems pretty current. It's safe to say that, yes, there is ongoing research.
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If it was dogma, they wouldn't be doing the research. If it was dogma, they would do no research like creationists.
Where is the creationist research?
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'Scientific' research hasn't produced the source of HOW all life was created, based on the scientific method.
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Leaping to a God conclusion explains nothing. Maybe God did it or maybe there are any number of other causes. The need for certainty should not cause one to leap to conclusions.
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The reason that it is important to know who is putting up the money for research is..... If you find information and discoveries that discount or contradict the beliefs of the ones with the $$$ the $$$$ stops flowing.......
You don't tell the inventor of the 18 wheeler that trains are better......If the trucker is paying you to increase efficiency in transport.
You don't tell a pig farmer that chickens would be more efficient..... If the pig farmer is looking for higher return.
And, You don't tell a university that you have found archeological evidence that puts the TOE to serious question....
You will be out of work, out of money and no diploma or recognition for your work and finds.
You don't tell the inventor of the 18 wheeler that trains are better......If the trucker is paying you to increase efficiency in transport.
You don't tell a pig farmer that chickens would be more efficient..... If the pig farmer is looking for higher return.
And, You don't tell a university that you have found archeological evidence that puts the TOE to serious question....
You will be out of work, out of money and no diploma or recognition for your work and finds.
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Papers on abiogenesis and related fields (such as features of very early life or protein origins in astrobiology) published this year include authors working for/at:
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center;
NASA Johnson Space Center;
Massachusetts Institute of Technology;
Florida State University;
University of Kansas;
Konrad Lorenz Institute;
California Institute of Technology;
Cornell University;
Aix-Marseille Université, Marseille;
Stockholm University;
Università di Firenze;
University of Sussex;
University of Sheffield;
Eötvös Loránd University Budapest;
University of Southern California;
Brazilian Center of Physics Research;
Sorbonne Université;
CRNM France;
Aachen University;
University of Belgrade;
The University of Tokyo;
RIKEN Biofunctional Catalyst Research Team;
Weston Observatory of Boston College;
Charles University in Prague;
Technische Universität München;
Universidade de Lisboa;
University of Brussels (Belgium);
American Museum of Natural History.
And probably several dozen others universities and institutions that I don't have the time to find on Google Scholar
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I'm saying you are guilty of preaching without facts.
Where is this research you speak of?
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And? Your point being what, precisely?
Universities aren't limited to one field, or a few fields. There are many researchers - from undergraduates all the way through to post-doctoral scholars - engaged in many different fields of study.
Those institutions I listed, all employed individuals who had published a paper on or directly related to abiogenesis, since about March this year.
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