[PERMANENTLY CLOSED] I am an 18 yr old Christian and this much older man really likes me -?

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I think you may have problems identifying your own boundaries,
That's it; blame the victim.

Boundaries or no boundaries, the dude is out of line.
If anyone should be looking to boundaries, HE should. After all, he is the older and supposedly more mature believer.
 
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That's it; blame the victim.

Boundaries or no boundaries, the dude is out of line.
If anyone should be looking to boundaries, HE should. After all, he is the older and supposedly more mature believer.
It is very important to be able to set those boundaries to begin with. She had felt impure thru-out the contact yet was unwilling to examine why and or do something about protecting herself from the impurity
 
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It is very important to be able to set those boundaries to begin with. She had felt impure thru-out the contact yet was unwilling to examine why and or do something about protecting herself from the impurity
You're blaming the victim? The predator in this story, who has reached beyond the half century mark in age, is out of line. He's taking advantage of his senior status by intimidating a young girl with his physical contact and his artificial Christian love smile and rhetoric.
He's a predator. And you're saying she's not done enough to protect herself from his advances?

I'd suggest you volunteer at a rape crisis center for a weekend. You may learn to be more compassionate in the face of reports like this.
 
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You're blaming the victim? The predator in this story, who has reached beyond the half century mark in age, is out of line. He's taking advantage of his senior status by intimidating a young girl with his physical contact and his artificial Christian love smile and rhetoric.
He's a predator. And you're saying she's not done enough to protect herself from his advances?

I'd suggest you volunteer at a rape crisis center for a weekend. You may learn to be more compassionate in the face of reports like this.
She was already getting lots of compassion. People go to some for understanding and to others for help. I offered her advise on protecting herself from it happening again.
 
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Strange how the natural instinct of many is to blame the victim. Countless women suffer in silence, afraid to cry out for fear of accusation. No wonder many predators roam free; they have so many inadvertent supporters.
ya m'bad
 
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I made much mention of the predatory dirtball guy in the post you quoted.
That is beside the point that you blame the victim.
 
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That is beside the point that you blame the victim.
Saying she may have boundary problems is in no way blame. It's inquiring into what may have caused the predator to look at her as game.
 
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Saying she may have boundary problems is in no way blame. It's inquiring into what may have caused the predator to look at her as game.
Yes exactly, it's the same as I thought. Most girls would just say: back off you dirty old man! I was like that too when I was young. Turned out I was abused as a child and not healed from it, so I kept attracting those people. I stepped in a car with an old man at the bus station because I thought: oh what will he think if I say no? Girls have to be protected from naive thoughts.
Once met a rapist in a wood in the middle of the night. The compassion was from the Lord, but letting them hug you is not compassion. I said: God is here and He can heal you from that lol and told him about Jesus. He didn't dare do anything anymore. After that I thought: this is not my ministry. Let a guy do that.
 
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Become a nun
Not necessary. The dirty old creep needs to repent.

There are a few (VERY few) people who truly have the charismatic gift of celibacy. It is probably as rare as true gifts of healings or miracles. ONLY people with that gifting should be nuns or monks.
 
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Yes exactly, it's the same as I thought. Most girls would just say: back off you dirty old man! I was like that too when I was young. Turned out I was abused as a child and not healed from it, so I kept attracting those people. I stepped in a car with an old man at the bus station because I thought: oh what will he think if I say no? Girls have to be protected from naive thoughts.
Once met a rapist in a wood in the middle of the night. The compassion was from the Lord, but letting them hug you is not compassion. I said: God is here and He can heal you from that lol and told him about Jesus. He didn't dare do anything anymore. After that I thought: this is not my ministry. Let a guy do that.
And this thread is about her, not about the dirty old man. Once it's been established that he is a predatory person w/o him being here to personally council then the onus can only be upon what will help her or those in a similar situation reading this.
 
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I think you may have problems identifying your own bounderies, something that may have something to do with your childhood perhaps, but a shy gentile nature doesn't allow itself to be used as dirt. Whenever he approaches you just don't react, leave him holding his own dirtball, and just walk away. His feelings are not worth taking into consideration but if you do then realize that he is probably angry at having what he considers his rights over you violated. As much distance as possible is the best tactic while you learn to not allow predators your space.

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This man is way out of line and I personally would be very firm one time only. I would advise a direct approach, I'm not interested, knock the behavior off now and turn and leave. No apologies necessary. You might be surprised what he would say that is not true to your Priest so talking with the Priest early is in order. You should not have to put up with this predator's behavior toward you.

This.
 
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When he tries to touch me it is in front of other people. Should I say "NO (name) NO" or gently take him to the side? He might not get the message if I am gentle...
Definitely! "NO GEORGE NO! PERVERT!" and push away violently. Try to have some pepper spray on hand as well. Or one of those personal keychain alarms.

I'm just kidding. Please ignore.
 
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It is very important to be able to set those boundaries to begin with. She had felt impure thru-out the contact yet was unwilling to examine why and or do something about protecting herself from the impurity

I do feel like you are trying to turn this around on me.
I did not think that others would buy into what had happened or really help me... instead I thought they would ignore me because they did not want me to cause trouble. The priests were busy, busy, busy ... I thought, 'what is my problem compared to others? Husbands are dying, couples are getting married and having children. Maybe I am being dramatic'. Although I knew it was wrong, I felt like there was little I could do. I was too scared and intimidated by a much older man doing these things to me to say anything. Because it was happening in front of others and they still weren't saying anything, I thought maybe I was in the wrong. But I know I am not. I just needed more confidence instead of being 'gentle' all the time.
I am not unwilling to examine this, it was the first time it had happened to such an extent and I was intimidated.
 
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