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Just a few thoughts for all here to consider
"9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." ( 1 Cor 6:9,10)
"19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God."(Galatians 5:19-21)
and where do they end up?
"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Revelation 21:8)
and how long will they be there for?
"...cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." (Revelation 20:10)
and the gospel is
"1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:" (1 Cor 15"1-5)
and notice only those who received/believed this will be saved. All unbelievers will end up where?
"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Revelation 21:8)
and what if someone preaches another gospel?
"6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." (Galatians 1:6-8)
Laws work the same whether you receive them from Torah or from Paul. So then, any one of those things you do not do, by your own strictly literal interpretation, it will be the lake of fire for you, and for all eternity, by your own strictly literal interpretation. Whew, it is getting hot in here already.
I want to ask you something, as well as my other friends; 2KnowHim, ron4shua, jugghead, stevenfrancis, LoveofTruth, and whoever else I may have spoke to. If you don't feel comfortable discussing this here, then please PM me. I would like to know your interpretation of the following verse, and what this means to you concerning the Gospel:
"For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man." John 5:26
Instead of making bold statements I would rather begin by asking a few questions that may point in several directions without necessarily taking a stand myself either way concerning whatever might be the answers you might arrive at from the Scriptures:
1) Where does Yeshua actually claim himself to be the Son of man?
2) Why does Yeshua always speak of the Son of man in the third person?
3) The Son of man has ascended and descended the heavens, (John 3:13).
4) Where therefore do we read of Yeshua descending from the heavens?
5) Who are the "we" and the "our" in John 3:11?
John 3:11
11. Verily, verily, I say unto you, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and you receive not our witness.
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