Was it wrong for the Duggar secrets to be revealed?

Sammy-San · Aug 1, 2015

I believe whoever leaked the info about Josh Duggar should be ashamed of themselves for what they did to the entire Duggar family, and so should the media for covering the story. Typical Americans are interested in scandals about famous people, and that's why the media covered the story so much. But that doesn't change the fact that it was wrong.

I'm not really a fan of the Duggars as people-they are rather odd-they have strict rules for their kids, they do weird things like show themselves giving birth on TV, etc. I could say a lot more, but I don't feel like ranting about my opinion of them.

But I respect them as I would anybody else, and what the media has done to them lately is disgusting. Their show has been cancelled, they seem very stressed and embarrassed from all the attention. Their show was cancelled.

http://www.designntrend.com/article...rs-broke-asking-fans-cash-youtube-channel.htm

They pretty much punished Josh Duggar's entire family for something wrong he did as a kid. The fact that Josh Duggar is getting negative attention isnt the problem-he did something wrong and illegal, and there are consequences to that. But revealing his actions did no good.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...ster-Jessa-proudly-displays-growing-bump.html

'This whole sordid affair with Josh rattled a lot of people, including the victim, who had to relive this nightmare all over again all while watching Josh's parents go on TV and whitewash what happened,' InTouch quoted a law enforcement insider as saying.

In this video with Megan Kelly, the women said that they feel like victims with all the media attention they are getting. They had tears in their eyes. That's the main reason I believe what happened with Josh Duggar shouldn't have been revealed. It caused drama and stress and embarrassment for the rest of the Duggars, especially his sisters.

The second video shows their opinions more in depth.

Sammy-San · Aug 1, 2015

I guess I was wrong about their money, but it doesnt change the other facts. http://www.ibtimes.com/are-duggars-...unting-stars-are-not-struggling-money-2031857

Maren · Aug 1, 2015

Perhaps a counter question: Was it wrong for someone to reveal what happened with Pres. Clinton and Monica Lewinsky? If you don't feel that was wrong, what makes it different between Clinton and Duggar, other than your politics?

SepiaAndDust · Aug 1, 2015

Superhero Sam said:
They pretty much punished Josh Duggar's entire family for something wrong he did as a kid. The fact that Josh Duggar is getting negative attention isnt the problem-he did something wrong and illegal, and there are consequences to that. But revealing his actions did no good.

There can be no consequences for illegal actions without revealing those actions. We don't have secret courts for celebrities.

katherine2001 · Aug 1, 2015

He was old enough to know that what he was doing was wrong. That kind of behavior does serious damage to the victims. There is also a problem with the parents covering up a crime until the statute of limitations had run, especially since their own daughters and a babysitter was involved. And please don't say that it was just a case of "playing doctor". That is something a 4 or 5 year old does, not a person the age that Josh was at the time this occurred. Also, he engaged in this kind of behavior many times--it wasn't just a one-time affair. Christ did promise us that what we try to hide will come to light on Judgment Day. God did the Duggars a favor by revealing it now. I know that a suit has been brought by the non-family member that was molested and I hope she wins the case.

Sammy-San · Aug 1, 2015

SepiaAndDust said:
There can be no consequences for illegal actions without revealing those actions. We don't have secret courts for celebrities.

Why do you think it was the right decision to reveal something Josh Duggar did over a decade ago as a minor? It's not like the Michael Jackson scandal-Duggar isn't a world famous adult singer accused of touching kids inappropriately. Not to minimize the wrong-ness of what he did, but hearing about the scandal in the media was hardly interesting. But that's not my main point. The victims, his sisters, who are now adults, said revealing what he did as a boy would not be their first choice, and they only talk about it to explain what happened. The victims wanted privacy, and that's the main reason I think who leaked the info did the wrong thing.

Lazy_Proverb · Aug 1, 2015

I see it as a matter of concession of character for the sake of celebrity and monetary rewards. Mitigating the offense now, while taking steps to obscure the facts prior to their show premier, demonstrates a consciousness of guilt the parents hold at the very least.
This particular reality show family agreed to present an image that is not genuine to an audience that is largely gullible for reality television series.
That the family now minimizes the trespasses Josh Duggar committed years ago is a symptom of enabling.

Child molesters don't get a free pass because their family entertains us.
That Josh Duggar has children of his own now should concern everyone .

Sammy-San · Aug 1, 2015

Lazy_Proverb said:
I see it as a matter of concession of character for the sake of celebrity and monetary rewards. Mitigating the offense now, while taking steps to obscure the facts prior to their show premier, demonstrates a consciousness of guilt the parents hold at the very least.
This particular reality show family agreed to present an image that is not genuine to an audience that is largely gullible for reality television series.
That the family now minimizes the trespasses Josh Duggar committed years ago is a symptom of enabling.

Child molesters don't get a free pass because their family entertains us.
That Josh Duggar has children of his own now should concern everyone .

I agree. But look at what revealing his actions did-it caused his sisters to feel like victims again.

Sammy-San · Aug 1, 2015

Maren said:
Perhaps a counter question: Was it wrong for someone to reveal what happened with Pres. Clinton and Monica Lewinsky? If you don't feel that was wrong, what makes it different between Clinton and Duggar, other than your politics?

Because Bill Clinton was a world figure, the president of the US. Josh Duggar is just some reality TV guy that many people dont care about.

Hank77 · Aug 1, 2015

When people put themselves in the public's eye and represent themselves as the perfect family, they are going to be inspected to see if they are the perfect family.
If you can't take the heat don't take the $$millions.

Sammy-San · Aug 1, 2015

Hank77 said:
When people put themselves in the public's eye and represent themselves as the perfect family, they are going to be inspected to see if they are the perfect family.
If you can't take the heat don't take the $$millions.

Do you support TLC's decision to cancel the show?

Lazy_Proverb · Aug 1, 2015

Superhero Sam said:
I agree. But look at what revealing his actions did-it caused his sisters to feel like victims again.

When they haven't dealt with this issue in the true light of what did happen to them, and their parents mitigated what was done for the sake of a TV career that was just starting years ago, I would say they have been made perpetual victims by their family for years.

SkyWriting · Aug 1, 2015

Superhero Sam said:
I believe whoever leaked the info about Josh Duggar should be ashamed of themselves for what they did to the entire Duggar family, and so should the media for covering the story. Typical Americans are interested in scandals about famous people, and that's why the media covered the story so much. But that doesn't change the fact that it was wrong.

I'm not really a fan of the Duggars as people-they are rather odd-they have strict rules for their kids, they do weird things like show themselves giving birth on TV, etc. I could say a lot more, but I don't feel like ranting about my opinion of them.

But I respect them as I would anybody else, and what the media has done to them lately is disgusting. Their show has been cancelled, they seem very stressed and embarrassed from all the attention. Their show was cancelled.

http://www.designntrend.com/article...rs-broke-asking-fans-cash-youtube-channel.htm

They pretty much punished Josh Duggar's entire family for something wrong he did as a kid. The fact that Josh Duggar is getting negative attention isnt the problem-he did something wrong and illegal, and there are consequences to that. But revealing his actions did no good.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...ster-Jessa-proudly-displays-growing-bump.html

In this video with Megan Kelly, the women said that they feel like victims with all the media attention they are getting. They had tears in their eyes. That's the main reason I believe what happened with Josh Duggar shouldn't have been revealed. It caused drama and stress and embarrassment for the rest of the Duggars, especially his sisters.

The second video shows their opinions more in depth.

Unless you know them you should pay less attention.

Sammy-San · Aug 1, 2015

SkyWriting said:
Unless you know them you should pay less attention.

What are you implying? I don't know their family, but my views on this case are based on what his sisters said about it.

Hank77 · Aug 1, 2015

Superhero Sam said:
Do you support TLC's decision to cancel the show?

Their business decisions are their business. I don't know why they made that decision so I can't have an opinion about it.

Hank77 · Aug 1, 2015

Superhero Sam said:
Because Bill Clinton was a world figure, the president of the US. Josh Duggar is just some reality TV guy that many people dont care about.

No, Josh was now representing a Christian Family Foundation in Washington, DC.

The Duggars are followers of Bill Gothard and his ATI doctrines. The HSLDA made a statement last year about Gothard's and Doug Phillips' teachings in 'the Quiverful Movement'.
http://www.hslda.org/courtreport/V30N2/V30N202.asp

Maren · Aug 1, 2015

Superhero Sam said:
Because Bill Clinton was a world figure, the president of the US. Josh Duggar is just some reality TV guy that many people dont care about.

As Hank77 pointed out, the Duggars were working politically against same sex marriage, holding themselves up as an example of good and comparing gays to child molesters. Whether people cared or not, they put themselves into the same political arena the Clinton's are in, so they should be subject to the same "outing."

keith99 · Aug 1, 2015

Maren said:
Perhaps a counter question: Was it wrong for someone to reveal what happened with Pres. Clinton and Monica Lewinsky? If you don't feel that was wrong, what makes it different between Clinton and Duggar, other than your politics?

Clinton was in the spotlight doing something productive. The Duggars were in the spotlight for ego and mammon.

Both situations are rather like some legal principles, you can't try to slam the defendants character freely, unless the defense opens the door by trying to paint a positive character.

Once you step into the public spotlight you open the door an a lot of things that otherwise would be right out.

Green Sun · Aug 1, 2015

Superhero Sam said:
Do you support TLC's decision to cancel the show?

If you support it or not, they really didn't have a choice, financially speaking.

They lost 21 of the sponsors for "19 Kids and Counting" a few days after the allegations came to light. (Ace Hardware, ConAgra Foods, Party City, BEHR Paint, Pure Leaf Iced Tea, Ricola, Firehouse Subs, Pizza Hut, Sherwin-Williams, Crayola, Allstate Insurance, King's Hawaiian, Wallgreens, General Mills, Payless ShoeSource, Choice Hotels, Keurig, H&R Block, CVS, Jimmy Dean, and David's Bridal)

There might have been others I didn't read about, but when you lose all those sponsors, you basically run out of money for making the show. TV shows alone don't make money. The Ads you run during the commercials bring in most of the money. Yeah you can get some from sales of the episodes at a later date, but that alone can't support the cost of creating a show.

It was either keep producing a show which now will give a negative profit (and also probably bring a large amount of negative feedback) or cancel it to cut your loses.

LyraJean · Aug 1, 2015

Maren said:
Perhaps a counter question: Was it wrong for someone to reveal what happened with Pres. Clinton and Monica Lewinsky? If you don't feel that was wrong, what makes it different between Clinton and Duggar, other than your politics?

Clinton being the leader of our country at the time of the affair with Monica Lewinsky makes all the difference. She could have been a spy for another country trying to get state secrets. Fortunately, she wasn't. That's the difference.

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