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Davian

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Why should I try again when lots of texts on electronics are all "good authorities" on the topic too.
Show me two current books on electronics that differ on the fundamentals of electricity.
Why must only a single book be a "good authority' on something as complex as the topic of God?
Define "God".
It doesn't address my question I'm afraid. You're intentionally misrepresenting the whole concept of monotheism and intentionally misrepresenting variation in belief in religion as multiple 'gods'. That's like claiming there are multiple Presidents of the US simply by virtue of variation in beliefs about his character.
No, I am saying that others have different opinions that yours.
I'd love to see you try,
Nah, this is getting kinda repetitious. Got anything new?
 
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I am puzzled to how you can believe in a deity, without at least a basic concept of who this deity is?

I wouldn't use the term "deity" because that implies something apart and separate from the cosmos. And I wouldn't use the term "believe" either. In the mystical sense, real roughly I experience a creative force that runs through and within life itself. It's something that is "experienced". If I were to put any basic concept to it I'd have to say that it's essence is Love, Harmony and Beauty. But that has more to what I experience when I see it. It's like watching the laugh of a baby, the Divine shines out. So I tend to use words like Divine Presence or Divine Source and words like that. I also use words like Shiva, Ground of Being, Allah, Om, Yahweh, Satnam, Braham, Ahura Mazda, ect...you get the idea.

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Dark matter theory isn't defined

Dark matter is a hypothetical kind of matter that cannot be seen with telescopes but would account for most of the matter in the universe. The existence and properties of dark matter are inferred from its gravitational effects on visible matter, radiation, and the large-scale structure of the universe. - wiki

or falsifiable, otherwise it would have been falsified by the failed "tests" at LHC, LUX, PandaX and those electron roundness experiments.
The concept of dark matter cannot be falsified, as it is just as placeholder name; individual dark matter theories or models can be falsified with new data that does not fit.

I thought you were familiar with this subject.
 
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Don't you know?

Every topic worth discussing on these boards, is somehow related to another person's obsession with dark matter and energy.

Strange that. We should check out the other threads to see if the Ambiguously Plasma Duo is plastering the knitting forums with the same nonsense. Somehow, it wouldn't surprise me.
 
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I wouldn't use the term "deity" because that implies something apart and separate from the cosmos. And I wouldn't use the term "believe" either. In the mystical sense, real roughly I experience a creative force that runs through and within life itself. It's something that is "experienced". If I were to put any basic concept to it I'd have to say that it's essence is Love, Harmony and Beauty. But that has more to what I experience when I see it. It's like watching the laugh of a baby, the Divine shines out. So I tend to use words like Divine Presence or Divine Source and words like that. I also use words like Shiva, Ground of Being, Allah, Om, Yahweh, Satnam, Braham, Ahura Mazda, ect...you get the idea.
No, I don't.
 
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Strange that. We should check out the other threads to see if the Ambiguously Plasma Duo is plastering the knitting forums with the same nonsense. Somehow, it wouldn't surprise me.

I can't recall any thread or any topic, when this poster did not interject this same garbage, when it had zero bearing on the discussion at hand.

I mean, we are talking really off the charts stuff hear, which is why I chose the ignore route.
 
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Nice...but not of that is a "definition" of love, which is what you asked for.
No, I did not ask for a definition of "love". These are documents that discuss "love", defining it and the terms discussed as needed, so that the concepts can be conveyed coherently.

If "God" cannot be defined - how can we begin discussing something when we cannot agree on what we are talking about?
 
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Dark matter is a hypothetical kind of matter that cannot be seen with telescopes but would account for most of the matter in the universe. The existence and properties of dark matter are inferred from its gravitational effects on visible matter, radiation, and the large-scale structure of the universe. - wiki

In other words it a completely undefined form of hypothetical matter, and it's become an exotic matter of the gaps claim since LHC. So much for either a useful definition or a means of falsification.

The concept of dark matter cannot be falsified, as it is just as placeholder name; individual dark matter theories or models can be falsified with new data that does not fit.

Every "individual" theory they've put forth was falsified at either LHC, LUX, PandaX or those electron roundness 'tests' which came up empty, all of which they simply ignored. It's a dark matter of the gaps claim and the gaps keep getting smaller and smaller.

I thought you were familiar with this subject.

I am which is why I demonstrated to you that it's A) not well defined, and B) unfalsifiable by design, demonstrating that your personal emotional need for falsification and a a strong definition are irrelevant in "science". You've both misrepresented the scientific method, as well as the whole concept of monotheism.
 
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I can't recall any thread or any topic, when this poster did not interject this same garbage, when it had zero bearing on the discussion at hand.

I mean, we are talking really off the charts stuff hear, which is why I chose the ignore route.

And yet in this case it is entirely relevant because it directly refutes his personal emotional need for falsification and formal definition in science. No such thing is necessary or required in "science".
 
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Define "God".

The fact that you remain in denial of the definition I handed to you on a silver platter is no skin off my nose.

No, I am saying that others have different opinions that yours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotheism

Monotheism is defined by the Encyclopædia Britannica as belief in the existence of one god or in the oneness of God.

Which part of that sentence confuses you?

Nah, this is getting kinda repetitious. Got anything new?

Why bother when you haven't been responsive to any argument made, you're blatantly misrepresenting the scientific method and you don't grasp the term "monotheism"? What is there to discuss?
 
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Indeed. Our minds can create all kinds of personal experiences, which are real for the person experiencing them.
And than there are those experiences that come from somewhere else out side of the mind. The mystics of the various spiritual traditions talk a lot about that.

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