Thoughts ...

2KnowHim said:

Yes, I am beginning to see this...No wonder He can claim there is No other God But Him, and another He will not share His Glory with...

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It is a single truth, or (as you know) the voice of one crying in the wilderness, which in Adam can be seen what the voice does to you if it is not your own.

(From the point of view of scripture, in reference of the process happening in us) It would appear as (due to the process of the soul (even though God made us one from the beginning), that it was God (this seed/word) who separated us, and by this, separated us from himself, not only from himself in us, but outside of us as well (in the form of perception/kingdom/a garden. How different the words appear, What God has joined together, let no man put asunder, to the one who has seen the abomination that maketh desolate, as to where this is, and what form it appears to us in, each as individual as much as they are one lie (found in the picture of the elder even though God (not the man that became the living soul) only has one son, even as the inheritance that is God is one truth). God creates light and darkness, by being in us, or coming down, which starts the process, that brings the two together in one again, from where our captivity first began, who is the true captivity, or the one who takes captivity captive (it is this one word that is God that does not return void in reference to the extreme it returns again in, which cannot be separated from the kingdom of God as a perception of self we live in. The flesh/man or the one who tills the ground, as an image serves its purpose, every bit as much as a serpent does or a woman bathing on a roof.

2KnowHim said:

Sounds like divide and conquer to me ...

On another note, I don't mean to interupt here in the flow of things ...

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Nothing is out of order ...

Our isolation is sustained by our resistance to what is.

You cannot know him after the flesh, and remain in the truth that you are.

Perception is everything. It depends on where one is seeing at in the moment, or from, based on a truth less than one/a scattering, or one/a gathering again (the process of soul, and in all the endless applications this can be seen) ...

Unless He left to them the spirit would not come, just as if Mary (a picture of the third Mary/understanding/feast/tabernacles (which speaks to the journey in perception to soul) had touched him this would have become the finite truth to her, as something she would have always wandered after (a beast), a truth of degrees of an image found in the wildness of our mind (a city that rules over all the kings of the earth) ...

There is no place God is not, only where we deem he is not, but this truth must be first seen as a pasture within us before it becomes to us as something outside of us, or where we are (which all has to due with the complexities found in the moment God his his face from us) where being conscious, there is an entering into of forever.

It is the finite that gives rise to the eternal, just as a if a seed does not fall to the ground nothing happens (or if he had not said ...).

He sets us free from his word, by setting us free in it, it's like the enclosing of a garden, where the waters run in the streets, and are not that of another (which for all tense and purposes is the image/Esau (of himself) that provokes God to jealousy, as something less than himself).

We choose our own serpent ...

Faith like the word kingdom, or the word God, is something that changes to us with the passing of time.

It is something that we receive (that is pure, untainted), and then pursue to get more of, until it becomes (by the not pursuing of it) who we are.

Faith defines and is the essence of who we are, revealed or birthed in what comes out of her; in which we behold ourselves in, until this is all we see.

God’s word is not separate from himself, no more than self is separate from knowledge, or the woman from the man, or soul from spirit (which where it appears at in the process (of the soul) as (hope, faith, love) is the coming too of who we are).

It is in the pursuit of it that we become lost, and which the ending of is the finding of what we pursued.

If you teach anything less than you cannot sin, then you teach something less than being born of God.

Noxot said:

they go hand in hand but sin is a real thing

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Is there actually any such thing as sin ...

How far baptism is from sin ...

What brings an end to the process is also the beginning.

(Just to say in a manner that there is no disparage of thought ...) that for the most part, I only write relative to self, as something to me that is an absolute; collective as it is individual.

If God can sin, then there is sin (which is given as fruit by the perception of the individual), outside of this, the only sin that does is found in the resistance to this one truth (playing out in the individual as it does collectively, before it ever is manifested as flesh).

(Though all know, asleep or all that is between, or no) When you create a law you create the opposite reaction to it, which is merely another description of a seed that falls to the ground, or a deep sleep.

Something cannot be collectively an absolute foundation unless it is first an individual absolute foundation.

Jesus said his judgment was not like those who were still trying to come to God but never arriving, yet he said he does not judge (separating himself from the process (in picture having kept himself from women (or not defiled), or a Eunuch), but (where they are) if he did, it would be true (which is not separate from life), which is something spoken from two different places of perception (or as those in the Bible, where they were at the time God meets them (never naming God but the place where God met them).

Sin is simply a matter of thought.