Student Was So Offended by How Her School Pushed ‘Christian Beliefs’ That She’s Suing Them

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http://www.ijreview.com/2015/07/379...um=Owned&utm_term=ijreview&utm_campaign=Legal
Earlier this month, a federal judge in Mississippi ordered a school district to pay $7,500 in fines for violating a court order prohibiting proselytizing in its schools. The original order resulted from a lawsuit filed by Magdalene “Gracie” Bedi, who was a 16-year-old junior at Northwest Rankin High School.

In his decision, U.S. District Court Judge Carlton Reeves went so far as to accuse the school district of:

“deliberately [going] out of its way to entangle Christian indoctrination in the education process…”

The whole thing began in April of 2013, when Bedi and her classmates attended a school assembly sponsored by a local Baptist church and featuring other students discussing Christianity. Bedi had hoped to stay in the library during the assembly, but was told that her attendance was mandatory.
I don't blame her.
 

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We don't know the facts of this. As an example, my work has to find a place to host our employee week every year - and we do a health fair. Last year we rented a dance studio and this year they rented a church room. It depends on what we can afford. It's not trying to sponsor religious, but churches do rentals. We rented a room at my friends church to hold the friends baby shower last year.

And a lot of churches do fundraisers and drives for schools. Our towns biggest fundraiser is held by a church for back to school supplies and free resources.

She said that kids were talking there about Christianity, but I don't see why the school should be held responsible for that. To me forced Christian indoctrination would be in the studies, forced prayer, something like that. Without details, I don't know yet if she's just sue happy or has a legitimate gripe.
 
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This girl is an idiot.

Maybe you should've read the constitution a little more closely before you swore to uphold and defend it.
 
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The whole thing began in April of 2013, when Bedi and her classmates attended a school assembly sponsored by a local Baptist church and featuring other students discussing Christianity. Bedi had hoped to stay in the library during the assembly, but was told that her attendance was mandatory.
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But in May of last year, a local Methodist pastor led a prayer at a school assembly honoring high-performing students.

So, they violate the establishment clause, get a court to beat them down on it, and then violate it again.

The title of this article could hardly be more disingenuous. The first amendment and the modern interpretation thereof are pretty clear: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". You can't do this in a public school. You just can't. It's unconstitutional, and case after case after case after case has established that! We keep coming back to this because a lot of people don't seem to get the message, and keep trying to proselytize in public, government-funded schools.

Oh by the way, on the subject of "safe spaces", it's perhaps worth noting that Bedi was bullied and ostracized by both her peers and her teachers. We see this all the time. Whenever someone steps up against religious entitlement and says, "Hey, hang on, the constitution doesn't allow this", they get bullied, ostracized, and often threatened or assaulted. In one particularly egregious case, the plaintiffs were the victims of arson, and then the defendant tried to, I kid you not, make the argument that they no longer had any standing because they no longer lived in the school district. Some people sure do get violent about the first amendment. You know, their right to completely and totally violate it.

Hey, anyone want to get really, really angry? Watch this lecture:


And if you want to understand why this kind of thing matters, watch at least a minute or two starting here:


...And then keep in mind that the people disaffected here were adults, faced with an extremely peaceful, accepting religious majority. And compare that to the plight of the non-christian child in a school full of Christians who is left wondering where this leaves him, in a community where being non-christian is seen about as positively as being a serial rapist.

So I say good. This kind of crap needs to be met with an immediate and violent judicial drubbing. It is unconstitutional to legally uphold Christian privilege in law. It is unconstitutional to use your public school to further a specific religion. And the more such challenges we see, the better off we all are.
 
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Maybe you should've read the constitution a little more closely before you swore to uphold and defend it.

That's the thing. I have read the Constitution, as opposed to the bastardized version of it the American left touts.
 
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That's the thing. I have read the Constitution, as opposed to the bastardized version of it the American left touts.

They seem to think the First Amendment says, "The people shall have not practice their religion if it offends anyone else for any reason", and then they want Congress to pass laws to prohibit Christians from doing so.
 
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They seem to think the First Amendment says, "The people shall have not practice their religion if it offends anyone else for any reason", and then they want Congress to pass laws to prohibit Christians from doing so.
Absurd. You can have your crazy beliefs. You cannot force them onto children in public schools. Start a private school, run a private business, hassle and hound the people in your home and church. But just don't make children have to listen to your beliefs in a mandatory setting in a public school.
 
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Damned liberals, they seem to think the protections of the Constitution apply to everyone equally, not just to Christians.

That is the meme, but it isn't what liberals think. Liberals have and continue to attempt to extend special rights to certain groups at the expense of the religious freedoms of others, particularly Christians.
 
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That is the meme, but it isn't what liberals think. Liberals have and continue to attempt to extend special rights to certain groups at the expense of the religious freedoms of others, particularly Christians.
Forgive if I don't feel too bad for Christians who want to discriminate using their religion as an excuse but no longer can. You'll get over it.
 
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Absurd. You can have your crazy beliefs. You cannot force them onto children in public schools. Start a private school, run a private business, hassle and hound the people in your home and church. But just don't make children have to listen to your beliefs in a mandatory setting in a public school.

If you don't like our "crazy beliefs", then maybe you should petition Congress to pass a law regarding it. Oh, that's right! The Constitution says they can't! Bummer! Or should I say "Obummer"?
 
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Forgive if I don't feel too bad for Christians who want to discriminate using their religion as an excuse but no longer can. You'll get over it.

Just allow us our rights. How you feel about it is of secondary concern.
 
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Absurd. You can have your crazy beliefs. You cannot force them onto children in public schools.

You haven't been in a public school lately.

Start a private school, run a private business, hassle and hound the people in your home and church. But just don't make children have to listen to your beliefs in a mandatory setting in a public school.

Tell that to the Department of Education the next time they promote an issue like trans-gender rights or abortion as health care or have school children sing songs of praise for Obama or present graphic and detailed sex education to sixth grade students.
 
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You haven't been in a public school lately.



Tell that to the Department of Education the next time they promote an issue like trans-gender rights or abortion as health care or have school children sing songs of praise for Obama or present graphic and detailed sex education to sixth grade students.

One can opt out of sex education in almost all districts. In the case here a student tried to opt out of an Christian themed assembly and was forced to attend.

Oops.
 
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Private school, no problem.

Public school, big problem and the judge agreed.

No wonder kids in public schools aren't learning much anymore. They're afraid of learning something so much that they'll sue over it! :ahah:
I wish I would have thought of that when they taught me about evolution!
 
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No wonder kids in public schools aren't learning much anymore. They're afraid of learning something so much that they'll sue over it! :ahah:
I wish I would have thought of that when they taught me about evolution!

Tell it to the judge.
 
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