Reluctance to share the gospel due to conservative dominance

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He wants an imperfect, impure being to be pure? That's never going to happen.
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God accepts me the way I am. I have many faults, but I was made this way.

Well I guess that is between you and God. You have to be fully convinced of what you believe. But believe me I don't want to be in hell and will do all I can to live above sin.
 
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I don't believe in hell, so that's not a threat to me.

You are welcome to believe however you want, of course. I have no say on that. All I know is how I personally believe.

You don't believe in hell. Do you believe Jesus words:

Mar 9:43-48 And if thy hand cause thee to stumble, cut it off: it is good for thee to enter into life maimed, rather than having thy two hands to go into hell, into the unquenchable fire. where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. And if thy foot cause thee to stumble, cut it off: it is good for thee to enter into life halt, rather than having thy two feet to be cast into hell. where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. And if thine eye cause thee to stumble, cast it out: it is good for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell; where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Jesus just said there is a hell. Ask your self are you being religiously responsible?
 
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Luk 6:46-49 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Every one that cometh unto me, and heareth my words, and doeth them, I will show you to whom he is like: he is like a man building a house, who digged and went deep, and laid a foundation upon the rock: and when a flood arose, the stream brake against that house, and could not shake it: because it had been well builded. But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that built a house upon the earth without a foundation; against which the stream brake, and straightway it fell in; and the ruin of that house was great.
 
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God does love you, and I'm sure he does not think you are a bad person. But you really must abide by His words, and live according to them. Grace exists, we are called to liberty, called to freedom from judgment. But we are not called to be sinners. God has a plan for your life, one that is greater than what you think. Don't live according to this worlds standards, live by God's. In that way you will be blessed and secure.

2Ti 2:5 And if also a man contend in the games, he is not crowned, except he have contended lawfully.
 
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Sure I get a bit angry at sin. But my heart is to get the fear of God into people, who take liberty of God's grace.

Tit 2:11-12 For the grace of God hath appeared, bringing salvation to all men, instructing us, to the intent that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly and righteously and godly in this present world;

We need to be moving away from sin, telling people they can have sin in their lives like homosexuality, is against the bible. It is the bible that men will be judged by not opinions.




Again, you keep harping on homosexuality. Jesus did not make any indication that there are degrees of sin. If you must be judgmental and criticize people for their lifestyles, why restrict it to gender preference? Jesus never did - why should you?
 
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Again, you keep harping on homosexuality. Jesus did not make any indication that there are degrees of sin. If you must be judgmental and criticize people for their lifestyles, why restrict it to gender preference? Jesus never did - why should you?
This. I must have missed the parts in the Gospels where Jesus specifically mentioned that homosexuals are evil sinners, but that if you overeat it's only a tiny sin and all is well. From what I remember of my Bible readings, all sin is equally abhorrent in God's eyes, and there is no distinction between murder and having one too many glasses of wine at the office Christmas party.
 
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I wanted to share and see if others are in the same boat for the position im in. I'd love to share the gospel, but am reluctant to do so because I do not want to be associated with the more conservative elements that dominate modern day Christianity. I am in no way passing judgement on conservatives but as a liberal Christian I do not espouse the same views on issues like gay rights and hence don't want to be seen as leading people to what in my view is not the correct way to view scripture.

I want to spread the gospel with the caveat of "hey, I am telling you about the liberal Jesus guy who loved everyone, healed everyone and extends grace" not the Jesus that we so often see portrayed by some missionaries.

What are the thoughts of other liberals?

First, I think it's great and you are obeying Jesus by sharing the Gospel. Take a listen to this "sermon" by Andy Stanley.


I've shared it with my non-Christian friends. By the way, I used to be extremely liberal but now I'd consider myself moderate. I think following what Jesus said is definitely the way to go and the best witnessing tool we have.
 
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This. I must have missed the parts in the Gospels where Jesus specifically mentioned that homosexuals are evil sinners, but that if you overeat it's only a tiny sin and all is well. From what I remember of my Bible readings, all sin is equally abhorrent in God's eyes, and there is no distinction between murder and having one too many glasses of wine at the office Christmas party.

The gospel is full of condemnation when it comes to homosexuality. And there is certainly a distinction between greater and lesser sins. Over eating in my opinion is not a sin that would send anyone to hell, eat up people. But according to scripture homosexuality WILL send you to hell, along with other lustful sins.

1Co 6:9-10 Don't you know that evil people won't have a share in the blessings of God's kingdom? Don't fool yourselves! No one who is immoral or worships idols or is unfaithful in marriage or is a pervert or behaves like a homosexual will share in God's kingdom. Neither will any thief or greedy person or drunkard or anyone who curses and cheats others.

LiberalTruth 6:9-10 Don't you know that evil people will all have a share in the blessings of God's kingdom? It will be ok! Anyone who is immoral or even people who believe in other religions or anyone unfaithful in marriage or anyone who is a pervert or behaves like a homosexual, homosexuals are God's favs, they will all share in God's kingdom. Even a thief or greedy person or drunkard or anyone who curses and cheats others, don't worry you will all make it.

Rev 22:18-19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
 
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Isn't an idol anything you put above God? If so, some worship money, food, football teams, etc. God gave us the Holy Spirit to convict us of our sins and teach us His ways. We must apply scripture to the present day as well as the past. A football team might be today's equivalent of the golden calf of Moses' day.
 
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The gospel is full of condemnation when it comes to homosexuality.
Homosexuality isn't the only sin that the Bible condemns, so you might want to read the New Testament more closely. I distinctly remember Paul speaking quite a bit about gossip and slander as being sins, but the funny thing is that a lot of mainstream churches are packed with gossips, and I don't recall many pastors preaching on that particular subject. Same goes for gluttony, which is in direct opposition to what it says in Corinthians about your body being a temple of the Holy Spirit, and how many church gatherings do we have that serve all sorts of food that shouldn't really be consumed if you're trying to live a healthy lifestyle? So why do you feel the need to single out homosexuality, when there are a bucketload of other sins that even people who call themselves Christians partake in? Just saying, what's good for the goose should be good for the gander.
 
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Hi guys,

The reason I single out homosexuality is the bible says the practice will send you to hell. Too many people are making out that God approves of the sin. God loves everybody, and does not desire that they perish. But he has made it very clear that certain habits will send you to hell. He desires that we all live a life, not of sin, but of repentance, turning away from our sins. A person may right now be homosexual, God is not judging them, but he is calling them to change their ways, to repentance. The bible says that the one who is born of God, sins not. Please try to understand the scripture below:

1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

When a person knows God, they realize God calls them to live above sin, will we occassionally miss the mark, yes, but we will not abide in sin. Jesus said if we love Him we will keep His commands. Keeping what God commands shows Him we love Him. If we just go around breaking his commands, how is that showing love for God.
 
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All you are doing is repeating yourself and engaging in self justification. Each of us is fully capable of reading the Bible for ourselves in order to ascertain what the Gospel teaches and intends.

Your continued harping on homosexuals tells us more about your own state of mind than it does about anyone else's sins or the problems they will face on the
Judgment Day.
 
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