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Since UFOs phenomena significantly increase worldwide now, it starts becoming a threat to our faith. I wonder if we can have a forum to discuss about it.

We should be able to find answers in the Bible regarding to this issue.

I know it will be very controversial. But at least try to find out the answers through all discussion and research.

A great deception is coming, and I serious suspect that it will relate to UFOs issue.

2 Thes 2:9
"Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie "

Matthew 24:24
"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; in so much that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect".

I would like to know what is this great delusion/deception. What is the signs and wonders. Are they related to UFOs/Aliens? If fallen angels and angels are aliens/intelligent being from outer space? What is heaven? The space?

I would like to find all these answers before the full offical alien disclosure. Because when that happen, we will face the biggest threat, it will shake the foundation of religion. Therefore, I would like to be prepard and not be deceived. Christians should have the answers based on Bible when the secular world challenge us on this issue.

Therefore, I really hope we can have a forum regarding to UFOs/Aliens.

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Since UFOs phenomena significantly increase worldwide now, it starts becoming a threat to our faith. I wonder if we can have a forum to discuss about it.

We should be able to find answers in the Bible regarding to this issue.

I know it will be very controversial. But at least try to find out the answers through all discussion and research.

A great deception is coming, and I serious suspect that it will relate to UFOs issue.

2 Thes 2:9
"Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie "

Matthew 24:24
"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; in so much that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect".

I would like to know what is this great delusion/deception. What is the signs and wonders. Are they related to UFOs/Aliens? If fallen angels and angels are aliens/intelligent being from outer space? What is heaven? The space?

I would like to find all these answers before the full offical alien disclosure. Because when that happen, we will face the biggest threat, it will shake the foundation of religion. Therefore, I would like to be prepard and not be deceived. Christians should have the answers based on Bible when the secular world challenge us on this issue.

Therefore, I really hope we can have a forum regarding to UFOs/Aliens.

lynx

I believe the strong delusion/lie is a combination of things. The main delusion would be believing things that are categorically, and otherwise obviously against the will of God, are somehow "right." We see many examples of this already in society. Aliens/UFOs are just one example.

In regard to aliens/UFOs, it is important to remember from a Christian standpoint that these phenomena are primarily psychic in nature. That is, the principalities, powers, etc. that are talked about in the bible (specifically by Paul) can manifest "signs and wonders" to cause a [strong] delusion. Aliens - real aliens that claim to be from outer-space - are inter-dimensional beings that rely on psychic assault. Now, this doesn't mean they aren't physically there; on the contrary they are in fact physically existent at any point in space because of the psychic nature of their manifestation. Sort of like a physically tangible astral projection. Some UFOs are simply "high-tech science projects" for alphabet soup agencies around the world.

I believe God created the cosmos for all of His creatures - all of His sons. The difference between an angel of God that resides in Heaven (the spiritual residence for spiritual creatures,) and a fallen angel or demon, is that angels of God are not bound to the physical universe. In other words, angels can manifest on earth as humans (as it happens often in the bible,) and go right back to where the Father is in spirit form. Once you are kicked out of Heaven, you are out. So, perhaps there is "intelligent" life out there in the universe, but if they are so very interested in planet Earth - which is supposed to be the physical representation of Heaven - chances are they are trying to establish a home on this planet because of nostalgia of being kicked out of Heaven i.e. they are fallen angels or demons.

The reason why the very elect could be deceived if it were even possible is because there will be monstrosities of cataclysms that will happen before the spirit of Antichrist even enters its host. Two-thirds of the world population will perish from seismic activity, possible celestial impact(s) and disturbances (like rogue planets, dwarf companion stars entering the solar system,) plagues, famines, murders, public executions, etc., that when this "hero" rises from the ashes claiming that he can fix everything - and actually has the "power" on loan from God to show those "signs and wonders" - then everyone will consequently worship this beast as god. People will be mentally, physically, and spiritually exhausted, and the last thing they would want to do is doubt that someone has come to save them from all the darkness - especially if he actually shows he can do it (with wonders and signs.) The "hero" phenomenon will be so intoxicating that even the elect will have to "come out of a daze," so to speak, to realize this is not God. In addition, because of the evilness and deceitfulness of this beast, God will shorten the days so that the blood-thirsty beast won't destroy all flesh. In the end, satan's focus is about battling Christ for this planet, and he will use all the people who worship his beastly image as pawns.


So I said a mouthful, but basically we are not quite near disclosure yet. Some seriously significant things need to happen. All the seals haven't been opened yet, the trumps have not been sounded yet, and the vials have not been broken yet. When the first trump sounds, we are right at the precipice. Those that work for the enemy on this planet are counting on these events to destroy the foundation of not only Christianity, but ALL organized religion, creating a hybrid melting pot religion commonly referred to as new-age spirituality.
 
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I believe the strong delusion/lie is a combination of things. The main delusion would be believing things that are categorically, and otherwise obviously against the will of God, are somehow "right." We see many examples of this already in society. Aliens/UFOs are just one example.

In regard to aliens/UFOs, it is important to remember from a Christian standpoint that these phenomena are primarily psychic in nature. That is, the principalities, powers, etc. that are talked about in the bible (specifically by Paul) can manifest "signs and wonders" to cause a [strong] delusion. Aliens - real aliens that claim to be from outer-space - are inter-dimensional beings that rely on psychic assault. Now, this doesn't mean they aren't physically there; on the contrary they are in fact physically existent at any point in space because of the psychic nature of their manifestation. Sort of like a physically tangible astral projection. Some UFOs are simply "high-tech science projects" for alphabet soup agencies around the world.

May be psychic. Not so sure. But I found some scriptures showing angels and fallen angels are physical being when they were on earth. They walk, eat, wash their feet.....That's why I want to discuss about it.

I believe God created the cosmos for all of His creatures - all of His sons. The difference between an angel of God that resides in Heaven (the spiritual residence for spiritual creatures,) and a fallen angel or demon, is that angels of God are not bound to the physical universe. In other words, angels can manifest on earth as humans (as it happens often in the bible,) and go right back to where the Father is in spirit form. Once you are kicked out of Heaven, you are out. So, perhaps there is "intelligent" life out there in the universe, but if they are so very interested in planet Earth - which is supposed to be the physical representation of Heaven - chances are they are trying to establish a home on this planet because of nostalgia of being kicked out of Heaven i.e. they are fallen angels or demons.

I agree. But we need to find more scriptures to support our belief. To show other Christians and un-believers.

The reason why the very elect could be deceived if it were even possible is because there will be monstrosities of cataclysms that will happen before the spirit of Antichrist even enters its host. Two-thirds of the world population will perish from seismic activity, possible celestial impact(s) and disturbances (like rogue planets, dwarf companion stars entering the solar system,) plagues, famines, murders, public executions, etc., that when this "hero" rises from the ashes claiming that he can fix everything - and actually has the "power" on loan from God to show those "signs and wonders" - then everyone will consequently worship this beast as god. People will be mentally, physically, and spiritually exhausted, and the last thing they would want to do is doubt that someone has come to save them from all the darkness - especially if he actually shows he can do it (with wonders and signs.) The "hero" phenomenon will be so intoxicating that even the elect will have to "come out of a daze," so to speak, to realize this is not God. In addition, because of the evilness and deceitfulness of this beast, God will shorten the days so that the blood-thirsty beast won't destroy all flesh. In the end, satan's focus is about battling Christ for this planet, and he will use all the people who worship his beastly image as pawns.

There are a lot to talk about, therefore, we need a forum for it.


So I said a mouthful, but basically we are not quite near disclosure yet. Some seriously significant things need to happen. All the seals haven't been opened yet, the trumps have not been sounded yet, and the vials have not been broken yet. When the first trump sounds, we are right at the precipice. Those that work for the enemy on this planet are counting on these events to destroy the foundation of not only Christianity, but ALL organized religion, creating a hybrid melting pot religion commonly referred to as new-age spirituality.

Interesting! I would like to know more. With sources, essay, research....on each points you made here. Therefore, we need a forum for it.
 
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May be psychic. Not so sure. But I found some scriptures showing angels and fallen angels are physical being when they were on earth. They walk, eat, wash their feet.....That's why I want to discuss about it.



I agree. But we need to find more scriptures to support our belief. To show other Christians and un-believers.



There are a lot to talk about, therefore, we need a forum for it.




Interesting! I would like to know more. With sources, essay, research....on each points you made here. Therefore, we need a forum for it.

They are physical too, which is why I said the psychic nature of these beings are like "physical astral projections." They are rooted in psychic assault. When you hear the typical "you are worthless" talk, it is psychic. When they manifest and physically assault you (as it does happen,) it is both psychic and physical. In the sci-fi world, one would say they create psi-energy as such great levels that they physically manifest, and even dimensionally appear, in a particular place in space-time.

The rest of the stuff, you are right we need a forum of its own, but we can talk about particular things (with other people), instead of a broad subject. Perhaps it will garner attention from other people (and MODs) so that a forum devoted to Alien/UFO/Psychic Phenomena is forged. I have plenty of independent research, bible verses, apocryphal evidence, as well as my own research conducted by yours truly (I have studied subjects like these for apologetics for a very long time, and even have personal experience, unfortunately.)
 
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They are physical too, which is why I said the psychic nature of these beings are like "physical astral projections." They are rooted in psychic assault. When you hear the typical "you are worthless" talk, it is psychic. When they manifest and physically assault you (as it does happen,) it is both psychic and physical. In the sci-fi world, one would say they create psi-energy as such great levels that they physically manifest, and even dimensionally appear, in a particular place in space-time

Interesting. I don't know much about all these, I think we need a science forum too.
Two science forums. one for modern science, one for ET science and ancient advance science/technology.

The rest of the stuff, you are right we need a forum of its own, but we can talk about particular things (with other people), instead of a broad subject. Perhaps it will garner attention from other people (and MODs) so that a forum devoted to Alien/UFO/Psychic Phenomena is forged. I have plenty of independent research, bible verses, apocryphal evidence, as well as my own research conducted by yours truly (I have studied subjects like these for apologetics for a very long time, and even have personal experience, unfortunately.)

You are right. Getting people attention first, hope it will generate enough for mods to open the new forums.

I would like to know your personal experience! I have mine too, not directly though.

Have you seen UFOs? Encountered aliens?
 
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Interesting. I don't know much about all these, I think we need a science forum too.
Two science forums. one for modern science, one for ET science and ancient advance science/technology.



You are right. Getting people attention first, hope it will generate enough for mods to open the new forums.

I would like to know your personal experience! I have mine too, not directly though.

Have you seen UFOs? Encountered aliens?

I have not seen UFOs. I, and my family have had several experiences with demonic entities, unfortunately. Sometimes, they manifest themselves as what you think of as grays, sometimes they manifest as humans. But, the experience usually shares the same single unique sensation: sleep paralysis. I have heard them growl over me, and feel the cushon under me depress. One time, I thought it was my mother snoring (who was lying down next to me.) I actually saw her sleep and snoring. But, I realized what was going on when the cushion depressed, and I made noise to say pray and/or alert my mom. When she woke me, she was wide awake. I asked her had she been sleep, and she said no - she was just laying down watching TV.

That is what I mean about psychic assault: the entity projected the image (in seeming real time in all real-time detail) of my mother sleep so that the growling I heard would be associated with her snoring. The entity wasn't visible (probably still between dimensions,) but it definitely was crossing over, if it wasn't just invisible, because it physically interacted with me (cushion depressing.) Of course, there was sleep paralysis associated, which is also psychic. Invisibility is also a psychic assault (unless from technology.)



When people are abducted, it is almost exactly how humans get a tiger from the wild to study it, or conduct scientific experiments on it (in fact, the process may have been "acquired" from these entities.) The entities usually "psychically drug" the victim with a psi assault/mental and physical projections, take them "somewhere" (which may be a projection of a space ship, but may be the abductee's home even via psi assaults,) inspect the body of the person abducted (this is usually painful, because the entities do not care,) and then send the abductee back out into its native habitat (earth) "psychically tagged."

This is why abductees claim to have psychic connections, advanced knowledge or memories of the experience. Usually they claim that their reproductive systems were worked on if they have memories. This is nothing more than the "sons of God" knowing the "daughters of men." They are repeating the days of Noah. Back in the day of the Nephilim, Rephaim, and Anakim giants, the process was more straight-forward (literal sex.) Now, it seems genetic engineering is the process these entities take. This is why aliens/hybrids/gods/people with psychic abilities and powers are all part of a great deception. A big thing that caused God to destroy the world in the days of Noah was genetic pollution of human DNA with these "sons of god." Places in the bible where God is adamant about His people destroying all of a city's men, women and children is because of the tainting of their DNA - they were sons and daughters of the abominable union of angels and human women. (We know angels can "transsubstanciate" into men, as there are plenty of examples of it in the bible. Naturally, if they wanted to truly rebel and destroy God's design, it should reason that they could transsubstantiate the appropriate reproductive parts necessary to procreate with a human woman.)

Today, it is just like the days of Noah, as these entities are doing the same things (genetic manipulation and reproduction) under the guise of Alien Abduction. People will be deceived into believing this is a good thing, an enlightening thing. Even Katy Perry sings about an Extraterrestrial "injecting her with his love and filling her with his poison (genetic material)!" So much to talk about.


What about you and your experiences?
 
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I have not seen UFOs. I, and my family have had several experiences with demonic entities, unfortunately. Sometimes, they manifest themselves as what you think of as grays, sometimes they manifest as humans. But, the experience usually shares the same single unique sensation: sleep paralysis. I have heard them growl over me, and feel the cushon under me depress. One time, I thought it was my mother snoring (who was lying down next to me.) I actually saw her sleep and snoring. But, I realized what was going on when the cushion depressed, and I made noise to say pray and/or alert my mom. When she woke me, she was wide awake. I asked her had she been sleep, and she said no - she was just laying down watching TV.

That is what I mean about psychic assault: the entity projected the image (in seeming real time in all real-time detail) of my mother sleep so that the growling I heard would be associated with her snoring. The entity wasn't visible (probably still between dimensions,) but it definitely was crossing over, if it wasn't just invisible, because it physically interacted with me (cushion depressing.) Of course, there was sleep paralysis associated, which is also psychic. Invisibility is also a psychic assault (unless from technology.)

Wow. You and your family needs prayers quick. I have heard people stop abduction when they called out the name of Jesus and the nasty experiences stop permanently.

This psychic assault seem just like the old days when someone being possessed by ghosts. I suspect the ghosts, demon, aliens(evil ones) are all the same thing. We just have more understanding with our knowledge increased in the modern time to explain the supernatural things.

When people are abducted, it is almost exactly how humans get a tiger from the wild to study it, or conduct scientific experiments on it (in fact, the process may have been "acquired" from these entities.) The entities usually "psychically drug" the victim with a psi assault/mental and physical projections, take them "somewhere" (which may be a projection of a space ship, but may be the abductee's home even via psi assaults,) inspect the body of the person abducted (this is usually painful, because the entities do not care,) and then send the abductee back out into its native habitat (earth) "psychically tagged."
The aliens may using both tricks, psychic and actual physical abductions.
Because the abductees have physical wounds, scars, chips, fetus inside their bodies.

This is why abductees claim to have psychic connections, advanced knowledge or memories of the experience. Usually they claim that their reproductive systems were worked on if they have memories. This is nothing more than the "sons of God" knowing the "daughters of men." They are repeating the days of Noah. Back in the day of the Nephilim, Rephaim, and Anakim giants, the process was more straight-forward (literal sex.) Now, it seems genetic engineering is the process these entities take. This is why aliens/hybrids/gods/people with psychic abilities and powers are all part of a great deception. A big thing that caused God to destroy the world in the days of Noah was genetic pollution of human DNA with these "sons of god." Places in the bible where God is adamant about His people destroying all of a city's men, women and children is because of the tainting of their DNA - they were sons and daughters of the abominable union of angels and human women. (We know angels can "transsubstanciate" into men, as there are plenty of examples of it in the bible. Naturally, if they wanted to truly rebel and destroy God's design, it should reason that they could transsubstantiate the appropriate reproductive parts necessary to procreate with a human woman.)

Today, it is just like the days of Noah, as these entities are doing the same things (genetic manipulation and reproduction) under the guise of Alien Abduction. People will be deceived into believing this is a good thing, an enlightening thing.

I think totally the same. I have absolutely agree with you.
In Noah's day, the fallen angels tainted human's DNA through marriage, through physical intercourse, and now, their much more develop, more advance , they tainted our DNA's through genetic manipulation, that's why they abduct human.

This is very important for Christians to understand, the aliens/UFOs are the signs of the endtime. We are in the days of Noah. We need to talk about these a lot more often, we need to figure out the answers before the disclosure. We have to prepare, otherwise, we can be deceived.

One thing I want to add, for the aliens are good liars, they can come like "the light of angels" (like the Nordic aliens), I tried to figure out how to discern whether the aliens are angels or fallen angels. I think the key is Jesus. Ask the aliens (when they eventually show up and talk to human)what do they think about Jesus, will they acknowledge Jesus as Lord and Saviour and came in flesh. That's how I will figure out what they truly are.

Even Katy Perry sings about an Extraterrestrial "injecting her with his love and filling her with his poison (genetic material)!" So much to talk about.

There are really A LOT to talk about, I hope the mods open the forums.
It's a matter of emergency.
A contactee from an UFO forum I go to said the full public offical disclosure will happen september this year, June at best, start the end of april, which he's partly right, we have the "Citizen hearing on disclosure on UFO" happening right now, the movie siruis is on, things are moving. Another thing I pay attention to him is that he shows that he has advance science knowledge that don't seem to from ours. But he may be a crook, a liars, I am not sure, only time will tell. He left there anyway.
Point is, the force pushing the disclosure seems moving and may be fast from now on.

What about you and your experiences?

I have two elderly relatives saw 2 ufos in 1947 in California, flying across the sky, they described they were big, shape like saucers, may be the ones that eventually crashed in Roswell, New Mexico. Then years later, one of their friends, worked for the state department, finally confirmed before she died, that aliens are real and the crashed happened. She handled classified documents, she signed a 20 years secrecy contract and she also had to have lie detective test and other tests while she was on the job to ensure she didn't leak what she knew. She didn't talk much about details but she told me, if I want to know more, read the book "The day after Roswell by Philip Corso". Many things in the book is what's in the classified documents she handled.

That's when I started my journey of researching the UFO sujects and finding the answers between aliens and the Bible It was a shock to my faith at first, but as my research go deepen, I begin to see the connection. It's all about finding the truth and I think I have it. And I know I won't be shock again.

I do hope other Christians will open their mind now rather than later to pay attention to this phenomena, seriously. Because there are period of time between the first shock to truth realization. Time is against us, it won't be that long we have to face the aliens reality. The world of un-believers will challenge us with great tool this time.
 
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Wow. You and your family needs prayers quick. I have heard people stop abduction when they called out the name of Jesus and the nasty experiences stop permanently.

This psychic assault seem just like the old days when someone being possessed by ghosts. I suspect the ghosts, demon, aliens(evil ones) are all the same thing. We just have more understanding with our knowledge increased in the modern time to explain the supernatural things.


The aliens may using both tricks, psychic and actual physical abductions.
Because the abductees have physical wounds, scars, chips, fetus inside their bodies.



I think totally the same. I have absolutely agree with you.
In Noah's day, the fallen angels tainted human's DNA through marriage, through physical intercourse, and now, their much more develop, more advance , they tainted our DNA's through genetic manipulation, that's why they abduct human.

This is very important for Christians to understand, the aliens/UFOs are the signs of the endtime. We are in the days of Noah. We need to talk about these a lot more often, we need to figure out the answers before the disclosure. We have to prepare, otherwise, we can be deceived.

One thing I want to add, for the aliens are good liars, they can come like "the light of angels" (like the Nordic aliens), I tried to figure out how to discern whether the aliens are angels or fallen angels. I think the key is Jesus. Ask the aliens (when they eventually show up and talk to human)what do they think about Jesus, will they acknowledge Jesus as Lord and Saviour and came in flesh. That's how I will figure out what they truly are.



There are really A LOT to talk about, I hope the mods open the forums.
It's a matter of emergency.
A contactee from an UFO forum I go to said the full public offical disclosure will happen september this year, June at best, start the end of april, which he's partly right, we have the "Citizen hearing on disclosure on UFO" happening right now, the movie siruis is on, things are moving. Another thing I pay attention to him is that he shows that he has advance science knowledge that don't seem to from ours. But he may be a crook, a liars, I am not sure, only time will tell. He left there anyway.
Point is, the force pushing the disclosure seems moving and may be fast from now on.



I have two elderly relatives saw 2 ufos in 1947 in California, flying across the sky, they described they were big, shape like saucers, may be the ones that eventually crashed in Roswell, New Mexico. Then years later, one of their friends, worked for the state department, finally confirmed before she died, that aliens are real and the crashed happened. She handled classified documents, she signed a 20 years secrecy contract and she also had to have lie detective test and other tests while she was on the job to ensure she didn't leak what she knew. She didn't talk much about details but she told me, if I want to know more, read the book "The day after Roswell by Philip Corso". Many things in the book is what's in the classified documents she handled.

That's when I started my journey of researching the UFO sujects and finding the answers between aliens and the Bible It was a shock to my faith at first, but as my research go deepen, I begin to see the connection. It's all about finding the truth and I think I have it. And I know I won't be shock again.

I do hope other Christians will open their mind now rather than later to pay attention to this phenomena, seriously. Because there are period of time between the first shock to truth realization. Time is against us, it won't be that long we have to face the aliens reality. The world of un-believers will challenge us with great tool this time.

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You know, I hate to say it, but you know how things on this planet work. In reality, there may not be a forum for this very important topic, because of its importance. The Alien agenda is so incredibly important, though. They are working with world governments (which is why I say maybe 90% of U F O s are government toys,) and they are psychically involved in world affairs. Many malevolent entities are perceived as benign by some people (such as the Plaedians.) In the end, entities that are angels of God confess their allegiance at first confrontation, and they do not try to hide. In fact, they cant hide because people of God recognize them in their spirit - even if they are in the form of men (ex. Lot and the Angels.)

Unfortunately, many "milk and toast" Christians that have not experienced serious spiritual warfare may not be ready to discuss entities such as "aliens, demons, and interdimensional beings." It is unfortunate. And, conversing with you is bitter-sweet in that it moves me that someone is aware of this assault on our mind, and that you are Christian, but it is bitter in that we are probably thousands of miles away from each other. We have to rely on the versatility of the internet to get our message across.

It is interesting that in 1942 there was a very publicized "UFO" event in Los Angeles that has been greatly swept under the rug. An actual flying saucer was spotlighted over the hills in Los Angeles in 1942; shots were fired at the object, but it stayed over the city for hours. The [perhaps misinformation] chatter was that Hitler (who was rumored to be in contact with ETs) received technology from ETs to create flying saucers (known as Foo Fighters,) and he was testing its capabilities for warfare. The underlying question is why was Hitler in contact with ETs anyway? Then, jump to 1947 Roswell incident you described, and knowing that most of the Nazi scientists ran to the US to work for us, makes me wonder how intimate governments are with these entities. How deep does the rabbit hole go?

We have been beating a dead horse; even if it is just me and you, we most certainly need a forum devoted to these phenomena as it affects Christians. You and I both can discern the sinister effect it may have on the Church, and the urgency for discussion.
 
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Since UFOs phenomena significanease worldwide now, it starts becoming a threat to our faith. I wonder if we can have a forum to discuss about it.

We should be able to find answers in the Bible regarding to this issue.

I know it will be very controversial. But at least try to find out the answers through all discussion and research.

A great deception is coming, and I serious suspect that it will relate to UFOs issue.

2 Thes 2:9
"Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie "

Matthew 24:24
"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; in so much that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect".

I would like to know what is this great delusion/deception. What is the signs and wonders. Are they related to UFOs/Aliens? If fallen angels and angels are aliens/intelligent being from outer space? What is heaven? The space?

I would like to find all these answers before the full offical alien disclosure. Because when that happen, we will face the biggest threat, it will shake the foundation of religion. Therefore, I would like to be prepard and not be deceived. Christians should have the answers based on Bible when the secular world challenge us on this issue.

Therefore, I really hope we can have a forum regarding to UFOs/Aliens.

lynx

Wow, this really got my attention. Very interesting. Serveral years ago I got into a discussion about this with a family member who claimed that UFO's were real. I got very upset at this and turned my head the other way basically. But over the years I have become open to this discussion because we have no idea what is out there. I really like this idea. Taking discussions here to a whole new level.:thumbsup:
 
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I have not seen UFOs. I, and my family have had several experiences with demonic entities, unfortunately. Sometimes, they manifest themselves as what you think of as grays, sometimes they manifest as humans. But, the experience usually shares the same single unique sensation: sleep paralysis. I have heard them growl over me, and feel the cushon under me depress. One time, I thought it was my mother snoring (who was lying down next to me.) I actually saw her sleep and snoring. But, I realized what was going on when the cushion depressed, and I made noise to say pray and/or alert my mom. When she woke me, she was wide awake. I asked her had she been sleep, and she said no - she was just laying down watching tv.

That is what I mean about psychic assault: the entity projected the image (in seeming real time in all real-time detail) of my mother sleep so that the growling I heart would be associated with her snoring. The entity wasn't visible (probably still between dimensions,) but it definitely was crossing over, if it wasn't just invisible, because it physically interacted with me (cushion depressing.) Of course, there was sleep paralysis associated, which is also psychic. Invisibility is also a psychic assault (unless from technology.)



When people are abducted, it is almost exactly how humans get a tiger from the wild to study it, or conduct scientific experiments on it (in fact, the process may have been "acquired" from these entities.) The entities usually "psychically drug" the victim with a psi assault/mental and physical projections, take them "somewhere" (which may be a projection of a space ship, but may be the abductee's home even via psi assaults,) inspect the body of the person abducted (this is usually painful, because the entities do not care,) and then send the abductee back out into its native habitat (earth) "psychically tagged."

This is why abductees claim to have psychic connections, advanced knowledge or memories of the experience. Usually they claim that their reproductive systems were worked on if they have memories. This is nothing more than the "sons of God" knowing the "daughters of men." They are repeating the days of Noah. Back in the day of the Nephilim, Rephaim, and Anakim giants, the process was more straight-forward (literal sex.) Now, it seems genetic engineering is the process these entities take. This is why aliens/hybrids/gods/people with psychic abilities and powers are all part of a great deception. A big thing that caused God to destroy the world in the days of Noah was genetic pollution of human DNA with these "sons of god." Places in the bible where God is adamant about His people destroying all of a city's men, women and children is because of the tainting of their DNA - they were sons and daughters of the abominable union of angels and human women. (We know angels can "transsubstanciate" into men, as there are plenty of examples of it in the bible. Naturally, if they wanted to truly rebel and destroy God's design, it should reason that they could transsubstantiate the appropriate reproductive parts necessary to procreate with a human woman.)

Today, it is just like the days of Noah, as these entities are doing the same things (genetic manipulation and reproduction) under the guise of Alien Abduction. People will be deceived into believing this is a good thing, an enlightening thing. Even Katy Perry sings about an Extraterrestrial "injecting her with his love and filling her with his poison (genetic material)!" So much to talk about.


What about you and your experiences?
You have got my attention.:thumbsup: sons of god/daughters of men, one of the creepiest things to me in the Bible. Scary. God bless you:amen:
 
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having been involved deeply in this for over 15 years, the LORD finally shed his complete light on the subject. As some older members here are aware i was into the alien & UFO thing, and I will say now I was deceived by 'aliens' who masqueraded as angels of light and even preached Jesus.
I have recently written several messages on the subject exposing the darkness within which these entities operate.

http://aliendeceptionlastdays.blogspot.com/
(Messages exposing alien?UFO cults, structures on Mars and Pluto, and warnings about involvement in alien teachings)

http://crackingtheorionfiles.blogspot.com/
(A rebuttal of the alien messages received from actual entities in 1999 and 2003)
 
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