Here's your answer. The rapture is a secret only to those in darkness.
1 Thessalonians 5:4-5
4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. 5 You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness.
Mat_10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.For sure, but they still don't address the souls under the alter issue from Revelation 6.
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul"
"The soul that sinneth, it shall die"- Ezekiel 18:20
Strong's 5315.
nephesh: a soul, living being, life, self, person, desire, passion, appetite, emotion
Not true .... He is going to break in much earlier than you think with no warning to execute His unmitigated wrath and judgment upon an intransigent unbelieving lost world
Rev 7:17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
These Christians are in the presence of Jesus at the throne of God.
Can you give your interpretation of the last passage above?
"Show us where in His prophetic word it is mentioned that there is 2 Second Coming of Jesus yet to come ?"
Read post 229 RB ... the Lord is only going to intervene in the fairs of humanity .... once
Your "twice" trickery is moot
I could but attempting to explain it to a Preterist would probably present a challenge.
Since I do not believe that Christ returned in 70 AD or that the Book of Revelation is already fulfilled, why in the world would you think I am a Preterist?
He will come as a thief does .... no warning ..... at a time you cannot know .... He has not dated the event
I didn't say that the scriptures you posted taught a pre-tribulation rapture.If you can read the scripture I posted above and come up with a pretrib rapture, nothing I could ever say can get you to change your mind.
The rapture of Christ's church (if it be true) wouldn't change any of the concepts associated with His 2nd physical coming to the earth to reign.
There is no reason that there cannot be a pre-tribulation rapture that can be found in scripture.
There are, on the other hand, plenty of reasons to believe that there will be a pre-tribulation rapture.
Ecclesiastes 9:5
"For the living know that they shall die; but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten."
This really can throw some people, when they think that this is talking about no rewards after death. This whole book is talking about only the flesh body, the man that lives under the sun. When any person dies, they are through with this old flesh body, and it has only one purpose, to be placed in the ground to decay.
The body returns to dust. The precious person that you once knew has departed that physical body at death, and went immediately to be with the Father that sent that soul into the embryo at conception. It was the soul and the spirit of the person that you loved, and not the flesh.
When you go to see the final viewing of that person's body, the soul is missing and you can feel the emptiness of spirit that once was there, as you view the body that is in the process of decay. To the Christian, this is a time of rejoicing, for that person's soul is in the presence of the Father, and it is a time for rewards. Though living in the flesh is not considered the same for all people, but it is a requirement of God for each soul.
It was in God plan that all souls must be born of woman, and many times people misquote John 3:3 as to being "born again", which should read, "born from above". You are born from above when your soul enters the embryo at birth. We all have to live in the flesh and be tested in the flesh.
There is one group that was going to try to get around that, and it is discussed in Jude 1-6.
Rather then have their soul born through woman, they left their habitation, in the heavenlies against God's will, and took woman to seduce. This is also talked about in Genesis 6:1-8. Therefore, by side stepping God's plan they are already condemned to death of their soul. They never did have the flesh to die, and their death is the death of their soul and spirit.
So flesh is flesh, and once that flesh is dead there is no more use for it, it is left to return to the dust.
Here's your answer. The rapture is a secret only to those in darkness.
1 Thessalonians 5:4-5
4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. 5 You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness.
Tiny? A prophecy and covenant with Israel about the Jews finally getting their veils lifted off their blindness and coming to know the Lord is not tiny.nice concepts but just way too tiny..
but the Rabbi is only calling Judah and some levi (not all Israel , see Jacobs 's blessings) and it is Judah's right to be the last to be "Saved" but also in that the last to be purified too ...and to those who overcome will have the right to turnout the lights on this age. maybe read Jacobs blessings to his sons again..
You're right.Your chief problem is finding a 7 year stay in heaven between 1st Thess. chapter 4 and chapter 5.
It is not in the text.
You're right.In ancient times people would often go out to meet a returning ruler and escort him back to the city.
This is what we see happening at Christ's "Parousia".
You're right.There is zero indication in the text of a 7 year stay in heaven between these two chapters.
This 7 year stay in heaven can only be produced by importing it from another place in scripture.
Your chief problem is finding a 7 year stay in heaven between 1st Thess. chapter 4 and chapter 5.
It is not in the text.
Remember when Paul wrote the letter to the Thessalonians there were no chapters or verses.