3rd video proving that Planned Parenthood profits off of aborted baby parts

ebia said:

I'd same the same about the military. But that's not how tax works. We don't each pay for the things we approve of. We each put in to the communal pot, according to the amount the community has decided we must each contribute, and the community via its layers of government decides how to spend that pot.

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That sounds like communism. We have a representative form of government and we do have a say in how money is spent. Which is why there is a push to defund PP. And many of our reps are listening.

Erose said:

I'm just sick and tired of seeing my tax money go to this hate group. Defund them, period. Let their pro-death donors pay for their existence, and not me.

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I was under the impression they provide many other services that your taxes pay for, but their abortion programs are not tax funded?

PapaZoom said:

That sounds like communism. We have a representative form of government and we do have a say in how money is spent. Which is why there is a push to defund PP. And many of our reps are listening.

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We all have a say in how all of the taxes are spent.
But none of us gets to say "I won't fund this or that". We make the decision collectively through the channels of representative democracy, and then we each have to pay the prescribed amount.

None of this has anything whatsoever to do with communism.

Armoured said:

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/07/14/attack-on-planned-parenthood-3-deceptive-edits/204419
enjoy.

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A biased source that is famous for taking quotes out of context attacking someone else for their bias and out of context clips. How cute. Do you have any reliable sources?

grasping the after wind said:

A biased source that is famous for taking quotes out of context attacking someone else for their bias and out of context clips. How cute. Do you have any reliable sources?

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What's the point? You'll just handwave anything put forward, why bother? I mean, it's planned parenthood, so it's not like factual reporting matters, anything that makes them look bad must be true, right? False witness? What's that?

Armoured said:

I was under the impression they provide many other services that your taxes pay for, but their abortion programs are not tax funded?

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If an addict insisted that I could give him money because although he was definitely going to buy drugs with some other person's money he will make sure the money I give him will only be used to buy food then I suppose that should make me feel really good about giving him money. I just wonder if he might take the wrong bill out of his pocket by mistake when buying the drugs? But not to worry he told me he was going to buy drugs only with someone else's money so I'm not an enabler am i? After all, it is not like if I did not give him money he might have to buy food with money he was going to use to buy drugs like could be the case with women's health services vs lucrative abortion tr.

grasping the after wind said:

If an addict insisted that I could give him money because although he was definitely going to buy drugs with some other person's money he will make sure the money I give him will only be used to buy food then I suppose that should make me feel really good about giving him money. I just wonder if he might take the wrong bill out of his pocket by mistake when buying the drugs? But not to worry he told me he was going to buy drugs only with someone else's money so I'm not an enabler am i? After all, it is not like if I did not give him money he might have to buy food with money he was going to use to buy drugs like could be the case with women's health services vs lucrative abortion tr.

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Um, governments fund agencies to do x, while same agency also does y that must not be government funded, all the time.

Otherwise, for instance, the government would have to stop funding church based charity agencies.

Armoured said:

What's the point? You'll just handwave anything put forward, why bother? I mean, it's planned parenthood, so it's not like factual reporting matters, anything that makes them look bad must be true, right? False witness? What's that?

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False witness and quote mining seem to be media matters forte actually. Who is doing the hand waving? I am not waving away the words that are coming right out of the mouth of the people at Planned Parenthood. You have been asked for debunking and only delivered prepackaged spin on how disreputably the video makers presented things and an excuse that that somehow means that the people saying what they are obviously saying are not actually saying it. No matter how one edits it ( unless the tape were spliced in some way to produce a series of words that were not in actual sequence within the sentence , That again something that would need to be proven not simply asserted) the people's words in the video point to abuse and illegality. To debunk the video you need to provide facts that contradict the charges being made against Planned Parenthood not an attack against the methods of another group. It is entirely possible that both groups are insidious and corrupt. If that is the case, the fact that one is corrupt does not absolve the the other of corruption. Show that Planned Parenthood is innocent of what they seem to be admitting to be doing not that the ones exposing them are not playing fair in exposing them but that there is no wrongdoing by Planned Parenthood and do so not by linking to the opinion of a staunch supporter of Planned Parenthood but by actual factual exculpatory information. After all that,I am not asking you to do personally , just find a source that does it in that way rather than one that would insist the sky was red and tsake seriously the statement "it depends on what the definition of is , is" if it was in the interest of the people they are politically allied with.

ebia said:

Um, governments fund agencies to do x, while same agency also does y that must not be government funded, all the time.

Otherwise, for instance, the government would have to stop funding church based charity agencies.

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Pretending is fun for children but grown ups ought to speak like they understand reality. If the government gives money to an agency then that agency has more money to do anything they do. Same with church based agencies. Do church based agencies perform services the government insists they are not funding. I was not aware they used that excuse on church based charity agencies but If so, the government is lying about that as much as they are lying about Planned Parenthood funding . It is a nice little rationalization but does not really fool anyone. I would not find it to be a bad thing at all if the government left off funding church based charities. I see no reason that they should be doing it in the first place. They have their own charities to fund so what is the reason for them wanting to have some stake in church funded charities?

ebia said:

I'd same the same about the military. But that's not how tax works. We don't each pay for the things we approve of. We each put in to the communal pot, according to the amount the community has decided we must each contribute, and the community via its layers of government decides how to spend that pot.

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When this evil was legalized in our country, laws were passed that not one tax payer dollar would go to a single abortion. The Democrats found ways around this. Currently the United States government is breaking the law by funding this hate group.

Armoured said:

I was under the impression they provide many other services that your taxes pay for, but their abortion programs are not tax funded?

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If it wasn't for our tax dollars the hate group would not be sustainable. Also those services can be done by other groups. The government should tell them, what Catholic Charities were told in locations were gay marriage was legalized previously: "Don't worry we will find someone else."

It is disingenuous to give money to a corporation to consult poor women on whether or not to keep their babies, when that corporation profits from baby extermination.

Still not seeing the underlying problem here, but anyhoo.

"Across the centuries, it is the drowsiness of the disciples that opens up possibilities for the power of the Evil One. Such drowsiness deadens the soul, so that it remains undisturbed by the power of the Evil One at work in the world and by all the injustice and suffering ravaging the earth. In its state of numbness, the soul prefers not to see all this; it is easily persuaded that things cannot be so bad, so as to continue in the self-satisfaction of its own comfortable existence. Yet this deadening of souls, this lack of vigilance regarding both God's closeness and the looming forces of darkness, is what gives the Evil One power in the world." - Joseph Ratzinger (Pope Benedict XVI), Jesus of Nazareth - Part II, 153

Armoured said:

After the last two were so thoroughly debunked, why should I bother with this one?

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Debunked?

Do tell how they were debunked...

Mikhael Disciple of Christ said:

Of course you aren't. The bible says that some are blind. I'm glad I'm not part of the some. Their punishment isn't nice.

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Instead of the condescension, how about you explain it to me?

Foetuses that were going to be aborted anyway being used for medical research is bad because...?

Finish that sentence?

S.ilvio said:

Debunked?

Do tell how they were debunked...

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Asked, answered and handwaved already.

Erose said:

When this evil was legalized in our country, laws were passed that not one tax payer dollar would go to a single abortion. The Democrats found ways around this. Currently the United States government is breaking the law by funding this hate group.

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Where's your evidence that govt funding is being used to fund abortions?

Erose said:

It is disingenuous to give money to a corporation to consult poor women on whether or not to keep their babies, when that corporation profits from baby extermination.

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Aren't they a not for profit organisation?

Armoured said:

Asked, answered and handwaved already.

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Is that your best effort?

Hmmmm.......