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We are without doubt innocent, and any thought that exalts itself above this does violence to the kingdom of God in us (and our neighbor), as an attempt by thought to take it by force of labor (which is the path of building a house made with hands (Go to, let us build us a city and a tower to our own confusion) an eating to become like God), and is akin to exalting our throne above God's by this same means; it is based on an image/seed (that provokes God to jealousy) that leads us up another way, or to another city.
 
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There is no truth outside of self, which is the truth we enter into … if God is your adversary then these words will appear as your adversary, if he is not your adversary, these words will appear as your salvation.

And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries? And he said, Nay (which is to say neither).
 
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I asked this question on another forum … Did Jesus deny Peter (three times) before his father ...

Jesus did not quantify denial or confession, it was a simple, what you will do for me, I will do for you (it shows the responsive love, or love of the soul) ... it is the same principle as whatsoever measure you meet is what is met back to you, or to the pure all things are pure, or lose your soul to find it, or don't eat and the tree yields it's fruit without ever having touched it.

Again Jesus preached the soul, or kingdom of God …
 
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(Jesus preaching the kingdom said) Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away (by eating) the key of knowledge (which is the losing of your own soul, a cross, the wisdom of God): ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered. These words were not about a someday, but a present truth that one enters and abides in, and is the equivalent of whom the son sets free is free indeed, which the only begotten (via the father to the end that the two being one) son we are, is the light of the city that is being entered into; a city whose builder and maker is God.
 
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Adam did not keep the Passover, so when entering into Pentecost it became a separation to him, or a duality of self; the voice he heard walking in the garden (in the spirit of the day) finding himself (through perception) in darkness by default) not his own, (or without the city) which the words of life (thou shalt not eat) had driven him from.
 
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What Moses saw in the mount (cloud) was the process of the soul in relation to the birthing of a son, and what he brought down became the earthly shadow of the process of this truth in us; but where you are hearing from is as important as what you are hearing.
 
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It’s not a word, but what one believes is the intent of (or what is in) a word (which reflects the character of the one perceived as speaking (being the place of the gate (where battle is brought to) in relationship to soul as a city) that becomes offensive, which catches/snares you both in it’s coming and it’s going, which itself is a twofold process (treasure cities built by labor in a land not your own, or the house that one abides in forever as a son, all that the father has having always been yours) that is in picture more akin to the opening of a door in a house of many mansions/rooms (or to eat freely of every tree of the garden).

You can love another no more than you can love yourself (self being spirit (or something measureless) how much being of the soul) and not the false self (first given by the soul in relation to this word that is God); according to the law that this becomes, how much does God love the individual.

Things must be brought, or narrowed down to one word, which we each being this word, are defined by God as to what it means as himself.

Many people know the word, but very few know God, and (don’t know how, or) are unwilling to reason with him, and therefore never get to know him.
 
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… Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves …
Once he (spirit) gives you (soul) to drink of the water of life you never thirst again.

The truth is as individual as God is one.

When we see that God repented him that he had made man on the earth, and the baptism that followed shows the same process, that a threshingfloor does concerning the wheat (which the bread of the face (shewbread) is made out of) that which we eat of) being the same truth as what our soul is to us.

Our soul divides truth to us into two sons, but in the gathering our soul shows us the two sons are one truth. The same applies to the one we are. If we love somebody as ourselves who are they, if God loves us in this same measureless way who are we ...
 
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And the Lord said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of Egypt, have corrupted themselves ... God disassociates himself with his people even to the point of not having been the one who brought them out. Why …

It was Moses’ perception of God that brought Israel out of Egypt no less than it was Adam’s perception that drove him from the garden, just as it is found in the words, Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father (which must be understood in the form of the preaching of the kingdom/soul found in Jesus’ words about those who deny him or confess him (good and evil): there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.

This deals with where the narrative of life flows from, without or from within, your own or that of another’s and is reflected in the voice Adam heard walking in the garden (which he became afraid of (the beginning of knowledge) that was not his own (understanding that what a son hears is his own words).


Like all things, this verse speaks to the process (of time) of coming to the true nature of God (that Jesus declared) that is hindered only by our own perception of him.
 
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I will go in a short ways into some things (to show the pattern Moses saw in the mount) as something that relates to the church and what is in picture as the whole, for these last two days … but … just like seed time and harvest, then seed time again, the feasts are repetitive where after completing one cycle (which ties in with the law (not speaking of the law of Moses, but speaking of the law of Moses as a perception of Moses (in type a seed) given to Israel (which in one form is the difference between the manna of the wilderness (which was what Jesus revealed himself as) as opposed to the understanding that is the fruit of the land), it starts over again but in a woven way, because it is an internal truth that every individual is going through which is co-dependent on the same happening in each individual being all of us one, until the first heaven and earth to us have been seen as having passed away, and all things being fulfilled … with that said, and which is filled with the redundancy of things you already possess …

The wine (in its symbolism as the soul, even the soul of God, as it moves through its perceptions according to the measure of a woman), is for those who are faint in the wilderness (though this is honed down to each individual which without, the whole would not be whole). The day of Pentecost was the pouring out of the wine to those who were faint in the wilderness, which is the birthing of the mentality of the woman/church, this woman having come out of his side (as one out of Egypt (remembering that Jesus in the wilderness was a serpent on a pole, who the children of Israel burned incenses as image in th4eland (which shows this same truth in the land as it is found I the wilderness of in Egypt (which was the truth of the Passover or a habitation not accepted) or through the water and the blood, the same picture found in the first man from out of whose side came the woman.

Noah and the end of all flesh was a Passover (though he was called into the ark before the truth of Passover was revealed in the flesh, or as something they could see, to Noah, it was still the hearing of the ear), what was gathered into the ark was the duality of Pentecost, but when he came out of the ark (from a door, or rib in the side of the ark) along with the duality that was in the ark he planted a vineyard and his nakedness was revealed, showing the sum of the three rivers as something that transitions from a Euphrates to a Canaan, or from rivers to sons, the revealing of the fourth being the earthly sown in the mentality that he is not the son of God (in picture is seed/son time and (in the earth/land/woman/soul) harvest/children).

The multiple pictures of a woman drunk with the cup of the Lord are strewn about all over scripture in different forms, but they paint the picture of the whole of the process happening in all of humanity as the same process happening in the individual.

Like all things God, if you wait for it, it becomes something that cannot be contained …
 
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God (for a lack of a better word) is past good and evil as images that relate to the truth of the self-existing one who is our Father and in like manner we are this without the labor to be it. It has been this from the beginning. It is not about good or evil (this is the process of the soul), it is about the single thought, as a seed that is sown. The abyss is without form, it is the face that is void, husbandless in respect to any image outside of one’s self. Only here do you possess your soul, and the dead soul (in picture) becomes a living garden yielding its fruit, (a wilderness that becomes a well watered garden) unhindered by the duality that once ruled over her. Truth is in everything, it is everywhere, but any image less than one creates a shadow in it which becomes a table that is a snare to us (of servitude/the mind of a servant, or born of a bondwoman/daughters of men (in respect to our soul), even though this is just part of the process of becoming God, or God coming to a consensus, which is the moment we are in, whether we understand this or not, which is the difference (concerning knowledge) that all things are ours, or we labor or take it by force. This is why it is impossible to get there unless you believe you have come from there; there is a great gulf.
 
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The preaching of the kingdom of God is the preaching of the soul, and the issues that arise out of images that become seeds that are sown in a field (as it were), which the process of this duality is firstly in Jerusalem, or one’s own soul (which Jesus’ face was steadfastly set for even as this truth is the same truth that is the apple of God’s eye), until this is understood one remains snared by fowl who have not rested, and can be seen in Abraham’s shewing away from his sacrifice (which causes a carrying away of the seed to Egypt (a deep sleep), and in picture a house that has been swept clean, or a ground of a garden prepared ( though in the house the seed/son (that is God, in the form of a word) was never planted as self

The kingdom that had come to them (or what was up till now (the kingdom of God suffered violence, and the violent take it by force/as a soul/land not your own) was the truth that Jesus believed himself to be, the son of man who was the son of God. It is the same kingdom appointed to us that is in us, as the perception given to us of our Father as to where we have come from, where we are, and therefore who we are, and where we are. It is not a pie in the sky, it is feet firmly planted on solid ground, there is no other foundation one can lay as self, the no other way to come to the Father.

What is deep to one is simple, or single to another, it is another form of the elder that serves the younger, every one of us are our brother’s keeper.
 
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Concerning thought ... To say I won't eat is to have eaten already, but one first must have the commandment not to in order to begin to understand how this applies concerning the process of our soul that we are to rule over. There is a cycle of seed time and harvest for every thought, as much as every word is a seed, based on a year as it were. We are pressed out of measure for the purpose of the one we are pressed out of measure by, all of it to the same one end, but like Job we have to settle in ourselves with taking the good with the bad in order to in ourselves get past this perception of God that we have.
 
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We hear, :clap: to the words of light.

This is dedicated to encouragement :oldthumbsup:. Yet, encouragement means, what, to the vessel of x141 ? For in, self, God is the encouragement and one hears the outpouring or captures the thought for judgments sake (eating outside of self) that ultimately negates above seeds of light if one comes in said judgment (City labored for). Too move over and pray before reading any post (process) to gain good seeds (Spirit Speak, for lack of better terminology) and reason with God. Building self with/in/for God is prerequisite that may allow one to hear truth and quit fighting it (adversary). Be not afraid :clap:. Think & act in, Let there be light... The gift already given for all creation is after the judgment of good . Darkness is. Light is. Choice is ... One has been judged good, the other just is... This is forgive 7x70 for darkness is. Where this one erred was to judge darkness not as, is, but label it as badness. This sets a mind in superior attitude for one has judged that which is. This verse comes to mind James 1:27 when one lets God train the mind in light. We being in duality by default can miss the non judgment of the darkness in Gen.1:2-4. Some just automatically do it (As this one did in City of labor ((process)), ) in default being that equals confusion. Good seeds in above posts as one applies to self and reason with God.
 
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