How Is A Christian Lady Supposed to Dress?

emekrus · Jul 3, 2015

“In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; but (which becometh women professing godliness).” 1 Timothy 2: 9-10

At a particular time, as I studied my scripture, this very scripture above, struck a chord in my spirit (witness of the Spirit). But I’m so confused as to why so many Christian ladies neglect its application in their dress code.

Worse of all, so many Christian leaders seem to be silent concerning this particular scripture. You know, we still see so many Christian sisters, dress so worldly in aberration to the above scripture. We still see sisters wear immodest attires around, even to the Church.

We still see Christian women adorn themselves with gold, pearl (Jewelries). Braid (Plait) their hair. Even wear costly arrays, yet no one seems to see anything wrong with it, except a few leaders that I know.

It amazed me the most, that even when I talked to lady minister concerning this scripture, her only defense was that, it was the Apostle Paul’s peculiar perspective. Then she also added, that if I preached that kind of doctrine in my Church, that people will not come.

Yes, sure enough, I believe if I preach this doctrine in its unadulterated form, many sisters (even bothers) will stop coming-although I’m not interested in only quantity, but also in quality-But the question that I’ve kept battling with-and I’m yet to get satisfying answer to is…

These Christian leaders that are allowing the sisters in their Churches to dress as they like, without any form of instruction, especially from the above scripture, is it that God told them, he has changed his mind concerning that injunction from Paul?

Or do they also hold the same opinion with the female preacher I consulted, that it was only Paul’s opinion then, and that it does not apply now?

Well, I’m not here to display any form of holier-than-thou attitude. After all, I want to make heaven, and God has told me that the only way for me to be saved, is to give myself fully to the doctrines of the scripture and also teach them to others to be saved as well (1Timothy 4: 16).

So please, I’m not here for any form of argument. I want you to spiritually and scripturally ponder over this scripture above by the Holy Spirit in you, and give me your opinion.

Please, let’s lay aside other people’s commentaries, unless you deem it fit, by the Spirit. Pls, let’s speak as one who will give account of our words on the Day of Judgment.

Honestly and spiritually, what do you make of this scripture above?

I’m open-Hearted to Learn.

Gregory Thompson · Jul 3, 2015

I think the core sin to look at here is the way humans are socialized to objectify one another, this is a form of idolatry. Though it is helpful if the ladies do not dress provocatively, I like the idea of an equal exchange, what exactly do men have to give up as part of this social arrangement?

timewerx · Jul 3, 2015

emekrus said:
It amazed me the most, that even when I talked to lady minister concerning this scripture, her only defense was that, it was the Apostle Paul’s peculiar perspective. Then she also added, that if I preached that kind of doctrine in my Church, that people will not come.

It's bad but it's not really a commandment. Modesty is still the way.

Messy · Jul 3, 2015

Just go dress as the Dutch, problem solved. Who cares how you look?

Biblicist · Jul 3, 2015

For a short answer I will say that our dress standards, or maybe with our lack of dress standards, that this is a reflection of the times that we live in - what we often refer to as the "Last days".

timewerx · Jul 4, 2015

Messy said:
Just go dress as the Dutch, problem solved. Who cares how you look?

Public displays of wealth (or the apparent appearance of wealth) is usually the result of a huge gap between the rich and poor. A huge gap between the rich and poor also results to a high crime rate like in many third world countries or some cities in USA (for example).

Nations which have a lot less gap between rich and poor tend to be modest..

Sorry for the geeky comment!

P.S.

If you think of it, the issue of the OP is a problem also caused by a region/nation-wide problem. If you think of it, as Messy pointed out like the Dutch or other countries like Finland, Sweden, Iceland, even Canada tend to be modest in the way they clothe themselves or through their mode of transport....

But nations where they have very SERIOUS greed issues like many nations in Middle East for example, or some cities in USA tend to show off a lot even if they can't afford it, even if it means a waste of a huge amount of money. Like in Dubai for example, there are some people there who had cars made out of gold.

As I've said, HUGE income gap of people in a nations, breeds this negative, highly unsustainable behavior. And unsustainability is what result to lots of crime, and then, instability, and ultimately, anarchy and chaos, like what happened to many Middle East and African nations.

So there's a symptom of a much larger issue.... Mass media helped a lot to fuel this kind of behavior with its HQ in USA, with lots of Jews involved. It's funny to think that USA + Israel was indirectly involved in the total collapse of multiple nations (mostly Islamic) in Africa and the Middle East. Or perhaps mass media is really owned by CIA, hahaha. Just thinking out wild... Hope AI will outsmart its creators and stop this madness.

Sorry but I don't easily buy religious views when there are more permanently solutions that can be found out there. And I don't think Jesus would have condoned blind faith either

Open Heart · Jul 5, 2015

I grew up in a family where the ethic of modesty and frugality of dress were strictly enforced. No makeup. No jewelry. No short skirts or low necklines or two piece swimsuits. No jeans in church. I learned some good lessons, and I picked up some bad habits.

What I learned that was good was modesty. To this day, there are people who cause me to stumble with the clothing they wear (or don't wear as the case may be), and I'm glad that I don't contribute to another persons downfall. I'm glad also that I have a sense to dress my best when I enter a house of God, whatever my personal best may be (I'm not very rich).

But I have to say that I've learned some bad habits as well. There is something to be said for taking good care of yourself, and showing good self esteem, that I've missed out on. I'm very LAZY when it comes to dress, because I never had to learn how to properly take care of myself. For example, I never had to learn how to put on and take off jewelry, and consequently, with the exception of a ring I never take off, I often just don't wear any. I'm also terrible about remembering to put on my makeup. I end up looking a bit rugged and unkempt, not quite the lovely woman I'd like to look. I come across as someone who doesn't care too much about myself. It's not good.

It is part of femininity to care how we look. Even if we women are dirt poor and making dresses out of flour sacks, we are matching up the flour sacks. A woman who does not care about her appearances is a sad being, not a deeply spiritual person.

Messy · Jul 5, 2015

Open Heart said:
A woman who does not care about her appearances is a sad being, not a deeply spiritual person.

Wut? Gimme a break. I always dressed up and used my magic box when I was married. Now I don't care at all and nobody is ever tempted, lol.

Open Heart · Jul 5, 2015

Messy said:
Now I don't care at all and nobody is ever tempted, lol.

How sad.

Messy · Jul 5, 2015

Open Heart said:
How sad.

It's sadder to hang your neck full with expensive jewellery and dress up so everyone watches you because noone does that or plaster your face. Btw Dutch girls don't need that.

Open Heart · Jul 5, 2015

Messy said:
It's sadder to hang your neck full with expensive jewellery and dress up so everyone watches you because noone does that or plaster your face. Btw Dutch girls don't need that.

I'm not suggesting we need to be gaudy. There is nothing worse than cracked makeup. I'm simply saying we need to take care of ourselves and care how we look.

Messy · Jul 5, 2015

Open Heart said:
I'm not suggesting we need to be gaudy. There is nothing worse than cracked makeup. I'm simply saying we need to take care of ourselves and care how we look.

Oh well I don't walk around like a homeless dude. It's normal here to act normal and dress normal because then you are acting crazy enough, so that means denim with some shirt and no make up or just mascara. If someone at the office wears make up or wears a really beautiful dress everyone looks at you like: what's up with you?

Open Heart · Jul 5, 2015

Messy said:
It's normal here to act normal and dress normal because then you are acting crazy enough, so that means denim with some shirt and no make up or just mascara.

People dress that casual at your office? Geeze Louise. Most places I know of don't allow you to wear jeans even on casual Fridays.

Messy · Jul 6, 2015

Open Heart said:
People dress that casual at your office? Geeze Louise. Most places I know of don't allow you to wear jeans even on casual Fridays.

Hahahahahahaha
A collegue got married, I was the only one from the collegues in a dress, some women and all guys showed up in denim.
When I used make up and wore nice clothes when I was dating my ex people would ask me if I had a party or they made weird comments about it.

Open Heart · Jul 6, 2015

Messy said:
Hahahahahahaha
A collegue got married, I was the only one from the collegues in a dress, some women and all guys showed up in denim.
When I used make up and wore nice clothes when I was dating my ex people would ask me if I had a party or they made weird comments about it.

I know that some areas are more casual than others. When I moved from Los Angeles to Yucaipa (a still developing town out in the Inland Empire, the county next to LA) I was shocked that women tended to be overweight and always wear slacks and oversized t-shirts. Even to church.

timewerx · Jul 6, 2015

Open Heart said:
I'm not suggesting we need to be gaudy. There is nothing worse than cracked makeup. I'm simply saying we need to take care of ourselves and care how we look.

I learned this lesson the hard way. I used to be lazy about having a haircut (I'm a man so I don't need to wear make up, haha!). I thought it didn't matter but it annoyed some people and I may have lost out on opportunities.

I don't think anyone will lust after me if I had a good haircut, maybe some will but it's gonna be their fault!

The one who lusts is the one who's at fault because no matter what you do, especially for naturally beautiful or handsome people, someone will always lust after them.

I mean people would still give me that inappropriate wink or inappropriate touch when if made myself look so boring in my work clothes. And I get lots so I had to be snubbish so I don't get unwanted attention everyday! I've been groped while wearing my old fashioned clothes! Nah I don't think they are isolated cases... Some people are just evil!

I'm still not encouraging anyone to wear tempting clothing.... I'm not discussing based on whether it's a sin or not, I'm discussing based on safety - especially to physically attractive people so you don't get unwanted attention from people who might harm you!

Open Heart · Jul 6, 2015

timewerx said:
I learned this lesson the hard way. I used to be lazy about having a haircut (I'm a man so I don't need to wear make up, haha!). I thought it didn't matter but it annoyed some people and I may have lost out on opportunities.

Exactly.

I think certain men can get away with casual clothing. Construction workers are considered pretty sexy with all their muscles and stuff. But in general, women prefer men who don't look like snobs. And who wants to dress up and then pair up with someone wearing jeans with holes in them?

Messy · Jul 6, 2015

timewerx said:
I thought it didn't matter but it annoyed some people and I may have lost out on opportunities.

Well if that is such a big deal for someone: bye bye! I suppose that wasn't the one then.
Before I met my ex I clothed like a guy with an ugly knot in my hair to protect myself for rapist and idiots. He was the only one who saw through that. Years later I met an idiot on the street, next day I just dressed up like half a guy and he didn't even recognize me, so he didn't bother me anymore. Works better than a burqua. Now I don't have to do it anymore luckily. Lovely when you get older and noone bothers you.

timewerx · Jul 6, 2015

Messy said:
Well if that is such a big deal for someone: bye bye! I suppose that wasn't the one then.
Before I met my ex I clothed like a guy with an ugly knot in my hair to protect myself for rapist and idiots. He was the only one who saw through that. Years later I met an idiot on the street, next day I just dressed up like half a guy and he didn't even recognize me, so he didn't bother me anymore. Works better than a burqua. Now I don't have to do it anymore luckily. Lovely when you get older and noone bothers you.

I wasn't looking for someone at that time. But my unkempt looks annoyed my mother, my colleagues at work, my bosses, and my aunt.

At work, nobody told me that I look terrible that I should do something about it. It would be a bloody mistake. Fast forward to present, I've learned my lesson and I could now probably read people's minds like a dog!

But you're right, in the context of safety, better to avoid looking sexy - but if you really can't help it, you better pack your stuff and move someplace that is a lot safer for that.

Open Heart · Jul 6, 2015

Messy said:
Well if that is such a big deal for someone: bye bye! I suppose that wasn't the one then.
Before I met my ex I clothed like a guy with an ugly knot in my hair to protect myself for rapist and idiots. He was the only one who saw through that. Years later I met an idiot on the street, next day I just dressed up like half a guy and he didn't even recognize me, so he didn't bother me anymore. Works better than a burqua. Now I don't have to do it anymore luckily. Lovely when you get older and noone bothers you.

Dressing unattractive will keep guys from hitting on you, but will not avert rapists, since rape is about power and not about sexual interest.

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